I'm hearing "no," "forget it,"

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I'm hearing "no," "forget it," "terrible," etc. on Fantastic Four (20th Century Fox, 7.8), which I never wanted to see anyway, and a friend of a close relation is saying Walter Salles' Dark Water (Disney, 7.8) doesn't make it. (How could that be? The hand of Walter Salles has been nothing if not assured in his past films.) I'd normally wait and make my own calls in the proper time frame, but there haven't been any Manhattan screening invites in my inbox. The downbeat Dark Water word will probably translate into a weak box-office showing, but Fantastic Four is expected to debut hugely.