You should have heard TV news anchors making fun yesterday of Daryl Hannah's climbing up that walnut tree in order to try and prevent a 14-acre garden from being turned into a warehouse so that Ralph Horowitz, the owner of the property, could make a profit. Hannah was doing something right, noble and gutsy, and those complacent overpaid TV anchors with their fussed-over hair styles and "gee, what's up with Daryl Hannah?" attitudes were nothing short of revolting .

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on June 14, 2006 at 12:19 PM

comment #1

Annie says ...

What else is new? I mean Hannah trying to prevent the garden being turned into a warehouse pales significantly when you consider the reports that the new Jolie-Pitt bub helped a store sell a $42 baby wear or that Hilton tried to pick a fight with Lohan, now that is news!

Posted by Annie at June 14, 2006 12:36 PM

comment #2

Marsha says ...

I agree Jeffrey. However, that's the sad state of America these days. We complain about nothing good happening politically and civically and then trash those who actually try to help.

Posted by Marsha at June 14, 2006 1:43 PM

comment #3

Dr. Smith says ...

Those local news anchors are brainless twits. Their snooty little commentaries always drive me up the wall. The fact that they feel the need to say ANYTHING is annoying enough, but in that moment where they decide what to say, it's always something empty and stiff and right-leaning. These are ways the media tires to control your brain. Seriously. By planting little seeds. I bet it was the FOX affiliate.

Posted by Dr. Smith at June 14, 2006 2:00 PM

comment #4

Brad says ...

Henry Rollins said something on his show last week to the effect that Hollywood Celebrities often do more harm than good, be they spouting uninformed opinions or pulling crazy publicity stunts. Their hearts are in the right place, they are passionate about their cause, but they come off looking like idiots, which is why there's always a Right Wing media feeding frenzy when the end result is not what's intended. Sorry to say Daryl's the latest casualty, which is a shame.

Posted by Brad at June 14, 2006 2:25 PM

comment #5

Anonymous says ...

So, this guy who owns the land gives fair warning that he's looking to sell? Agrees to sell to a non profit for an amount that's less than Larry David earns in two months interest on his cash, and the group can't scrape it together? And then they decide to shit on the guy for selling to someone else? Was it that hard to come up with the down payment for $16.3M property in that town?

Maybe if Daryl Hannah et al. had something a little more ambitious than trespassing as a goal, the farmers would be tending the land as we speak. Maybe the media was derisive about this story because it was insulting on a certain level. The mayor hisself said this was years in the making, and they still couldn't come up with the cash...welcome to the real world. Maybe if they had pitched it as a global warming issue, the money men would have ponied up; ah well.

Posted by Anonymous at June 14, 2006 2:50 PM

comment #6

Michael says ...

Wanted to leave my name on the above posted msg; hit post too quickly.

Posted by Michael at June 14, 2006 3:05 PM

comment #7

Marsha says ...

It never ceases to amaze me how people can claim that the country is going down the drain due to the greed of some, and then make excuses to blame others who try to change that.

Horowitz is a joke who tried to make $16.3 million from the city of LA or poor people instead of just donating land that he hadn't had an interest in for almost a decade, and land off of which he had already made a $200,000 dollar profit.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060613/ap_on_re_us/urban_garden

He could have easily donated the land and used that donation as a tax shelter, however in today's America his selfishness gets defenders like the network news channels and certain other posters.

Posted by Marsha at June 14, 2006 3:19 PM

comment #8

Telemachos says ...

I'm as lefty as they come and I think Hannah comes off like an idiot no matter how you slice it. Did she actually want to help? What about making some financial contributions to the farmers collective? This strikes me as an utterly retarded publicity stunt.

Posted by Telemachos at June 14, 2006 3:40 PM

comment #9

NYCBusybody says ...

It's a publicity stunt, people, to keep her name in the news. Although, as Jeffrey would surely attest to, aren't farmers just part of the great unwashed, uneducated, unworthy-of-living people that don't live in his insidiously mindless kooky-left wing cities? I'm surprised he doesn't have a typical kneejerk loathing for anyone that doesn't live in New York or Hollywood. She's a dumb blonde in a tree. I wish she'd fallen.

Posted by NYCBusybody at June 14, 2006 3:53 PM

comment #10

Marsha says ...

"What about making some financial contributions to the farmers collective?"

How do you know that she didn't do that too?

Unless she was able to come up with $14 million (and she's never been that popular of an actress where she would probably have that much dough lying around), then her financial contribution wouldn't have changed the situation.

Besides, there's something repugnant about a fantastically rich man like Horowitz trying to make an $11.5 million dollar profit off of people who are below the poverty line.

Surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) this part of yesterday?s actions have not been questioned or criticized by the media or by some other individuals.

Posted by Marsha at June 14, 2006 3:57 PM

comment #11

Michael says ...

So, your complaint is that after not charging any type of rent for 15 years that he didn't just hand the land over for free?

If paying 360K a year for other people to farm off the land is selfish to you...there's really no argument to be made. The "selfishness" you talk about is basic common sense. The basic fact is that Horowitz did more for those people in 15 years than any of the protesters could even dream about doing. Unless they had ponied up to buy the land, which they didn't.

Posted by Michael at June 14, 2006 4:01 PM

comment #12

NYCBusybody says ...

Exactly, Michael. Good point.

I'm sure Hannah went home to her Beverly Hills bungalow, forgetting about the "people below the poverty line" until the next time she can get a good camera shot. And good for her. This ain't a socialist society. The guy can do what he wants with his own land.

Posted by NYCBusybody at June 14, 2006 4:04 PM

comment #13

Daniel Zelter says ...

Telemachos: "What about making some financial contributions to the farmers collective? "

You have a point. It's not she isn't rich enough to just buy the land themselves. Plus it'd be tax deductible. But they were trying to "make a statement".

Marsha: "Unless she was able to come up with $14 million (and she's never been that popular of an actress where she would probably have that much dough lying around), then her financial contribution wouldn't have changed the situation."

She's not the only celebrity there. Besides, the profits from Kill Bill and Splash will keep her in the black for a while.

"Besides, there's something repugnant about a fantastically rich man like Horowitz trying to make an $11.5 million dollar profit off of people who are below the poverty line."

Welcome to L.A. Or should I say Chavez Ravine '06?

Posted by Daniel Zelter at June 14, 2006 5:46 PM

comment #14

Eric says ...

Anyone saying it was a publicity stunt for her career doesn't know a damned thing about Ms. Hannah.

She has been a gung-ho environmentalist for some time, and has even started getting savvier about the web in pursuit of her activism:

http://www.dhlovelife.com/

Posted by Eric at June 14, 2006 6:23 PM

comment #15

Telemachos says ...

So she's a big environmentalist -- bully for her. That doesn't change the fact that pulling a Julia Butterfly is a cheap stunt that does little to actually ACCOMPLISH anything, and frankly is downright silly.

Her financial and celebrity clout could be put to far, far better use. I already mentioned donations; what about setting up a foundation? Working with other high-profile supporters (like Martin Sheen and Danny Glover) to promote the cause of this collective through the media -- not through goofy stunts like climbing a tree, but through PSAs, interviews, and the like.

Climbing a tree in solidarity for the oppressed is something you do when you're in college and drunk. Actually doing the hard work to change the situation in a truly positive and long-lasting way takes far more energy and effort.

btw, I say all this as someone who has no bone to pick with her (generally), and who's liked a lot of her movies.

Posted by Telemachos at June 14, 2006 8:47 PM

comment #16

Bob says ...

Jeff,

It's a former B-list celebrity getting pulled out a tree where she was staging a cheesy environmentalist protest like some pissy attention-deprived 13 year-old. If you REALLY don't see what's funny about that...

Posted by Bob at June 15, 2006 12:10 AM

comment #17

Steve C. says ...

It was Horowitz's property, taken through eminent domain shenangians, in the first place.

I'm a liberal/progressive, but for me it doesn't fucking matter how much Horowitz already has. It was HIS property, taken away and returned through legal means. If he wants to turn a profit that he had to wait 10 years to collect on, that's his business.

Then on NPR, apparently they had to pay $1,000 (a year?) to farm these plots. Supposedly he was willing to sell, but got pissed off hearing one "greedy bastard" slur after another.

Posted by Steve C. at June 15, 2006 2:48 AM

comment #18

Spam Dooley says ...

Yes Jeff, your post is what makes you a twit sometimes.

IT IS THE GUY'S FUCKING LAND HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS.

Hannah should spend a year in jail and we should laugh at her.

Posted by Spam Dooley at June 15, 2006 8:02 AM

comment #19

Jon says ...

FYI, Daryal Hannah and company did raise the 16 million dollars. Yet, Horowitz doesn't want to sell it to them. Apparently there is some bad blood. This case is actually still in litigation, yet Horowitz still wants to bulldoze it.... something not right going on there.

Posted by Jon at June 15, 2006 10:09 AM

comment #20

SDD says ...

My understanding is that some people of the group who have been opposing Horowitz have made some very nasty and anti-semitic comments about him. He's fed up with them and doesn't want to sell to them no matter how much money they come up with. Would you?

Posted by SDD at June 15, 2006 10:34 AM

comment #21

Anonymous says ...

Here's a grassroots "report" on Horowitz:

http://www.aztlan.net/jewish_mafia_terrorize_campesinos.htm

Posted by Anonymous at June 15, 2006 11:08 AM

comment #22

Mark B. says ...

Jeffrey spoke thusly:
"Hannah was doing something right, noble and gutsy".
Okay, that may be true, but if one of the Christians that you revile so much was taking a stand on an issue dear to his/her heart, would you see that as "noble and gusty". No you wouldn't, because you're hypocritical. I like you, Jeffrey. You're an excellent writer and journalist, and I've never gone more than a week without hitting your website (and we're talking way back to the "Mr. Showbiz" days, so I know what I'm talking about). However, you're pure and utter hatred of men and women of faith permeates more than eighty percent of your articles (and that's a kind estimate). Why is that?

Posted by Mark B. at June 15, 2006 12:41 PM

comment #23

NYCBusybody says ...

That was the FIRST thing that struck me about this whole situation - the man's name is Horowitz, and people are up in arms because he's sticking up for his economic rights. The underlying anti-Semitism is subtle but present.

Posted by NYCBusybody at June 15, 2006 12:50 PM

comment #24

delbomber says ...

Here's my take...

He's a snob. Ok. Sounds like he grew up middle-class, but his west coast hob-nobbing with elitists and elite people alike has rubbed off. One can either revile them and leave or stick it out and become affected.

That said, I don't think Jeff despises faith entirely, but despises blind faith and ecumenical ignorance. This is a man who clearly struggles with his own spirituality. I'm not saying Jeff believes in Jesus, Scientology, Buddhism, or Wicca 'cause, hey, I have no fucking idea, but it should be obvious that he also doesn't believe we are here by some cosmic hiccup of chance and good fortune. I don't think Jeff would categorize himself an atheist, as his response to movies with themes of redemption, salvation, and existentialism are always strong and always visceral.

Anyone who claims to have been reading him since 'Mr. Showbiz' and fails to pick up on his agnosticism hasn't gotten Jeff for who he is. I have long had a love-hate relationship with his website because of his liberal hyperbole and prejudices, but his common scapegoat is one deserving of a lot criticism...the demagoguery that goes on in the fundamentalist Christian world IS primitive and counterproductive. What Jeff fails to grasp is that it is usually a reaction to the progressively lax morals and standards of our society, and this in turns feeds a vicious frenzy of negativity.

Without a degree in psychology I'm not qualified to say whether or not his thrashing of Christians is fed by his own struggling and conflicted soul, but this does seem to be a persistent theme that creeps its way into totally unrelated columns and postings. I could do without these rants, but I'm willing to live with them for the mix of entertainment and intellectual stimulation that is generally lacking across the www.

Posted by delbomber at June 15, 2006 2:35 PM

comment #25

Nicol D says ...

delbomber,

That was a very good post. Especially about the cyclical nature of fundamentalism being a response the increasing progressive decline in morality.

Hence one extreme action begets an extreme reaction.

Well put.

I too come here despite Jeff's political views because I find his writing very entertaining and the fact that he knows his shit about film history.

Posted by Nicol D at June 15, 2006 3:19 PM

comment #26

NYCBusybody says ...

See, I disagree. I'm quite a militant atheist, and I don't really think fundamentalism is a reaction to "a decline in morality" at all. This is a much more "moral" world than it was in the 50's, and I think that's mostly because of progressive values.

I just don't like elitists of any kind, and Jeff has become one. Simple as that.

He does know his shit, though, which is why I continue to come back.

Posted by NYCBusybody at June 15, 2006 4:48 PM

comment #27

Daniel Zelter says ...

If the protestors in general were anti-Semitic, why would they take out a loan from a Jewish organization?

Nicol: "That was a very good post. Especially about the cyclical nature of fundamentalism being a response the increasing progressive decline in morality."

So detaining, sodomizing, torturing, and bombing civilians in the name of Jesus is a return to morality? Or how about executing people without allowing them due process and the ability to re-try a case with DNA testing?

"Hence one extreme action begets an extreme reaction."

So using your position to get a blowjob gives another President the right to use his position to hire an incompetent head of an emergency organization?

Posted by Daniel Zelter at June 15, 2006 5:25 PM

comment #28

delbomber says ...

Daniel, you just need to stop talking. Every time I read one of your random, nonsensical, hysterical, paranoid replies my nose starts to bleed...seriously, your responses aren't even ACCIDENTALLY relevant to the discussion at hand. Wow.

Busybody, I'd have to disagree. There are studies that have shown that every generation thinks they are worse off than the generation before them, so cries of the moral decay in our society have to be taken with a grain of salt, yes, but can you provide some insight as to how you think we are "more moral" than we were 50 years ago?

Of course some extremists consider the act of sex itself immoral, I think we're all above that, so let's use porn as a barometer. We can argue until Zelter kicks his crystal meth habit about the morality of porn, that's not the issue...porn, which more often than not can be associated with sexual disfunction, has become more graphic, violent, depraved, detached, specific, accessible, acceptable, and popular, nay, in demand. For the sake of argument I'm even willing to disregard this paramount obsession with and addiction to porn. One only need to consider the explosion of child pornography and the rampant distribution of material across the internet to appreciate the gravity of this example. Also consider that in 50 years porn has gone from hush-hush "stag" to--I can't disgrace Jeff's board like this...let's just say it includes last night's dinner for this morning's breakfast and a whole lot swapping (which I had the misfortune of stumbline across on the IMDB message board for 'Me and You and Everyone We Know')...can you say the proliferation of this debauchery supports the idea of a morally superior society?

The real question is, did we have these desires all along, or has accessibility and exposure cultivated desire? Either way, morality contrived through deprivation is morality all the same. Just because we have the liberty to do something doesn't mean we should.


Off topic, but just curious...how can you hate elitists while calling yourself a "militant" atheist? To me militant implies intemperant and belligert, two defining characteristics of an elitist.

Posted by delbomber at June 15, 2006 6:45 PM

comment #29

delbomber says ...

...er, intemperate and belligerent...

Posted by delbomber at June 15, 2006 6:47 PM

comment #30

Nicol D says ...

Daniel,

I merely paid a complement to a poster who wrote a point that was articualte and well thought out.

How you got sodomy, torture and bombing from that is beyond me.

Was it a good stash?

Posted by Nicol D at June 15, 2006 8:36 PM

comment #31

Daniel Zelter says ...

delbomber: "We can argue until Zelter kicks his crystal meth habit"

Never touched the stuff. But it's your Freudian slip, not mine.

"porn, which more often than not can be associated with sexual disfunction, "

So is viagra, but I don't see Republicans trashing Bob Dole for endorsing a hedonistic lifestyle.

"has become more graphic, violent, depraved, detached, specific,"

So has the war. What's your point?

"accessible, acceptable, and popular, nay, in demand."

I thought conservatives believe that the majority(in this case, the average American) rules, and shouldn't have to accomodate the views of minorities(in this case, the Fundamentalist American).

"One only need to consider the explosion of child pornography and the rampant distribution of material across the internet to appreciate the gravity of this example."

Child pornography has nothing to do with pornography featuring consenting adults.

"Also consider that in 50 years porn has gone from hush-hush "stag" to--I can't disgrace Jeff's board like this...let's just say it includes last night's dinner for this morning's breakfast and a whole lot swapping (which I had the misfortune of stumbline across on the IMDB message board for 'Me and You and Everyone We Know')...can you say the proliferation of this debauchery supports the idea of a morally superior society?"

Can you say the proliferation of depleted uranium
leading to the deaths of 2,500 American troops and thousands of Iraqi civilians is the basis of a morally superior society?

Nicol: "Was it a good stash?"

Why don't you ask George?

Posted by Daniel Zelter at June 15, 2006 9:02 PM

comment #32

delbomber says ...

I love it...I laughed harder at this last response than anything written on this site since Wells' dissection of the pub photo for 'War of the Worlds'...alas, Jeff can't have these comment boards going to pot, so lets keep things above board, shall we??? That goes for you 13-year-olds as well...

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