comment #1

Anonymous says ...

Anne wrote it for him, just kidding. Which PR damage control expert has been pulled in today to run this show, I'm just curious, that's all.

comment #2

bass turd says ...

Like father like son.

comment #3

Anonymous says ...

No, it sounds like Mel wrote the statement. There's quite a bit of self-loathing in there.

comment #4

Anonymous says ...

Was that Mel's statement or Lindsay's?...

comment #5

Anonymous says ...

I added everything from the gun part down.

I am deeply ashamed of everything I said and feel fortunate I wasn't carrying a loaded gun at the time. Disney can rest assured I won't be doing any partying with Lindsay Lohan.

comment #6

Anonymous says ...

What's so hard about manufacturing self loathing for someone? It's all about access baby.

comment #7

Nicol D says ...

1. What Mel Gibson did was asinine, dangerous, irresponsible and what he said was racist.

2. His apology and admission took courage, character and fortitude. He easily could have tried to do the celebrity spin and deny, put out counter statements etc.

3. Anyone who has financed, produced, directed, starred in or enjoyed consuming viciously anti-Catholic/christian Hollywood fare like The DaVinci Code or V for Vendetta can keep their mouth shut on this subject lest you be called a hypocrite.

You have nothing to add to this discussion.

I still look forward to seeing Apocalypto as much as I did 48 hours ago.

comment #8

Anonymous says ...

I guess he can't deny that he hates jews anymore.

Crazy Riggs.

comment #9

Anonymous says ...

Disney must be thrilled.

comment #10

nemo says ...

I can understand the anti-Catholic rap against The DaVinci Code, but how the !@#$%^&* can anyone construe V for Vendetta to be either anti-Catholic or anti-Christian?

You couldn't have possibly seen V for V, but I don't even see how you could conjure up any anti-Catholic or anti-Christian bias out of any of the public discussion of V for V. The film clearly has anti-Bush and anti-Blair subtext. Maybe you're confusing covert criticism of Bush with anti-Christian bias, the same way NYCBusybody is always treating criticism of the government of Israel as anti-Semitism.

comment #11

joe says ...

the question no one is asking - probably cause it's a bit personal - is why did Mel fall of the wagon? I mean he's been quite vocal how his religious awakening in the late 80s helped him overcome his alocholism - george bush anyone - so what happened?

comment #12

Anonymous says ...

to joe- the buzz on the internet is that one of mel son's came out of the closet recently and i guess the bottle is he's remedy

comment #13

nemo says ...

I agree that Gibson's apology took courage, character and fortitude. But courage, character and fortitude only lasts until the next bender. And unfortunately, Mel has provided over the years plenty of evidence of anti-Semitic leanings even when he's sober. His drunken rant just confirms what everyone has long suspected. In vino veritas.

Alcoholism is a terrible disease, and I do hope Gibson finds the strength to recover.

By the way, StevieT in the previous Mel Gibson thread is right. "Sugar tits" is junior high school level wit.

comment #14

Anonymous says ...

Nemo: That's just how he is. He spent weeks on Dave Polands blog bitching about V's so-called anti-Catholic plot, long before it was released or he had seen it. Then someone there pointed out to him that it's the Anglican church in V, and he changed his tune to anti Catholic/Christian.

comment #15

Sidney Greenstreet says ...

"I still look forward to seeing Apocalypto as much as I did 48 hours ago."

Dang! I'm even more thrilled with the idea! Who knows what crazy shit Mel has cooked up!

Could it be that the perpetrators of human sacrifices are ancient Jews in "Mayan disguise"?

comment #16

Nicol D says ...

The cross on the flag of the government of V is the Catholic Cross of Lorraine.

If you cannot see the bigotry in that pathetic piece of drivel...I am surprised you even know what an anti-semitic slur is.

Again, if you want to cross reference what I have said in another blog, find the quote, cut and paste it and ask for a comment.

Taking me out of context is just poor debating tactics.

Ass.

comment #17

Ju-osh says ...

I always look forward to Nicol D's thoughtful take on anything controversial. He/she has the treat-everyone-else-like-a-child tone of self-appointed authority most commonly found in radio talk show hosts, and seems to enjoy commentary to conversation, always entering her thoughts as if they were law and the final word on the given topic.
Still, despite her commonly held belief that anyone who has seen either The DaVinci Code or V For Vendetta (dvd out Tuesday, you heathens!), I've three questions for him/her on the three inarguable statements of undeniable truth:

1. Do you think that an apology really makes up for a transgression of this (or any) nature?

2. If Tom Hanks and Natalie Portman* -- in private, silent prayer -- apologized to Jesus and/or sought out his guidance before making their respective films, and the Good Lord forgot to i.m. you regarding it, does that make your continued condemnation of their work an anti-Christian act ("Judge not lest ye be judged", don't try to remove the splinter in your brother's eye when you've got a rafter in your own, etc...)?

3. Do you honestly believe that there are no factions or sects or members of Christianity that do not live up to the standards set out by Christ? In V For Vendetta (which I'm guessing you did not see -- hence your eligibility to post comments on this whole Mel Gibson matter), the film only attacked crazed, extremely rightwing, hateful and murderous "Christians". That is to say, Christians in name only. These types did/do/will exist, wouldn't you agree? So maybe folks that like V For Vendetta can post here, don't'cha think?**

*Okay, so she's Jewish. But maybe, Lord willing, she's one of those self-hating types.

**DaVinci Code fans must still use the service entrance.

comment #18

Sergeant Dan says ...

Gibson's apology took courage? Please. What choice did he have? Accuse the police of framing him? For all he knows, they have him on video or audio tape screaming his love for Hezzbollah. He's cooked and he knows it, so he played the sickness card. Conservatives are all for personal responsibility til they get caught.

comment #19

kadoogan says ...

Hey Nicol D,

I do have something to add. You're a douche nozzle. You're just as intolerant and hypocritical as the rest of us. Welcome to the human race. As a lefty, lapsed Catholic I may look like a douche nozzle to you -- but at least we're all douche nozzles together.

I am glad that Mel apologized and I hope that he gets his disease under control.

I also hope that he accepts the theory of evolution, that using a condom every now and again won't condemn you to Hell and that it's quite all right if you are gay. If he doesn't accept those things, big whoop. As long as I have the freedom to criticize him and he to criticize me, everything will be fine.

At least you and I agree on one thing: nothing from the last 48 hours has changed my opinion on APOCALYPTO; it looks very interesting. Tally ho!

comment #20

nemo says ...

The Catholic Cross of Lorraine?!? What the !@#$%^&* is that? There must be about 8 people in the whole world who know the Catholic Cross of Lorraine when they see it! The same 8 people who have ever even heard of the mother-!@#$%^&* Catholic Cross of Lorraine! That's your evidence?

comment #21

Storymark says ...

Gibson's statement took getting his ass in a sling, and the future of his career potentially on the line. Yep, that's bravery.

comment #22

Nicol D says ...

Ju-osh,

1. Depends on the sincerity and actions taken after.

2.I can condemn the work all I want. I have never condemed them as people as I do not know what is in their hearts although the work they choose (Portman seems to be on a hate Catholics/Christians bender)sure seems to give a lot of clues.

Everyone can be forgiven however, I suspect if they had really asked for 'guidance' they would not have made the films.

3. So if someone made a film where say all (Jews, gays, blacks, Muslims, insert minority group here) were evil that would be alright with you?

Kadoogan,

I'm a douche-nozzle? Whose douche-nozzle am I?

Can I be some hot starlet's like that Veronica Mars chick? I can live with that.

comment #23

Storymark says ...

Nicol:
And in which movie was it that all Catholocs/Christians are evil? Not a few, as there were in V and Davinci (and the real world), but all?

comment #24

kadoogan says ...

Sorry Nicol D, I already got dibs on Kristen Bell.

comment #25

nemo says ...

This anti-C/anti-C rap against V for V doesn't make any sense at all. Especially the anti-Catholic part. The Hugo Weaving character explicitly models himself after Guy Fawkes, a Catholic who himself was in revolt against the anti-Catholic English royalty and aristocracy.

None of the characters, villainous nor heroic, are identified as Catholic, or could even be reasonably construed to be Catholic. There is a corrupt bishop, who is in league with the dictatorial government, but he is pretty clearly Anglican, not Catholic.

And even if this corrupt bishop is Anglican, how does that make the movie anti-Christian in any way? There isn't any implication in the film that the Anglican Church is guilty of collusion with dictatorship. Only that some fictional corrupt leaders of the church are doing so, and that the dictatorial government is seeking cover for its actions by trying to identify itself with the Church.

But honestly, how does that amount to any kind of anti-Christian, or even anti-Anglican bias? The film certainly does not say or even imply that all Christians or Anglicans are evil. It does say that one particular (fictional) bishop is violating the responsibilities of his powerful position in the church.

This all seems like the kind of slipping gear in the mind that says if you criticize one Catholic, Jew, black, white, Muslim, gay, straight, male, female, whatever, then it means you hate every Catholic, Jew, black, white, Muslim, gay, straight, male, female, whatever.

It's the kind of "thinking" that says if you criticize the White House, then you don't support the American troops, and you must want the Viet Cong, or the communists, or the terrorists, or whoever to win. If you criticize the government of Israel, then you must be an anti-Semite. If you criticize a bishop or a pope, then you must be anti-Catholic. If you criticize one corrupt Muslim leader, then you must be anti-Islam.

It's just a way to avoid thinking, and to make people who say anything you don't want to hear to STFU.

comment #26

Vallen says ...

Well I for one will be praying for him.

comment #27

BL says ...

I don't think Gibson could have made a more appropriate apology than that - he said the things he should have and that is a good thing.

It does, however, leave his rabid fanbase who had been cackling with glee yesterday about his macho antics holding the bag. They were all set for him to blame the bleeding heart liberals of the world for framing him - and now he goes and actually takes responsibility for his actions like an adult?

Some people are so used to the pattern our President has taken in blaming everybody for his mistakes but himself, they just cannot emotionally handle anybody they admire doing otherwise.

comment #28

Shane Victoria says ...

nice.now,if only he apologized also for his raging homophobia.that's worse because when he calls gays inhumans he's not drunk t the time.only under the influence of his narrow minded view of God.Pity a car crash did'nt happen.then I could sing:yay,yay,the witch is dead!

comment #29

AH says ...

Mel Gibson made a mistake and he's now apologizing for the mistake. That's all there is to it.

There is nothing more to this story other than people trying to make more out of it.

comment #30

Sinda star says ...

Do you know what my theory is? what would you do if you made an ass of yourself,revealed your anti-semitic beliefs listened by a tape.he could avoid it but it will only increase the talk.so what he should do is release a statement about it so people might forgive.Oh,well maybe I should start racist rants and blame it on the booze.A friend ttold me once:when a person drinks,his true feelings are shown to everyone.Do you really believe that this man who was raised by a nazi lover that Mel admires has not a anti semitic bone in his body.Yeah,right and I'm Dolly Parton!

comment #31

Ian says ...

AH wrote: "There is nothing more to this story other than people trying to make more out of it."

Really?

Hmmm... Oscar-winning filmmaker makes a wildly successful movie that many people -- rightly or wrongly, it honestly doesn't matter -- attack as being anti-semitic. He goes on how many different talk shows talking about how he loves Jews, how his film isn't anti-semitic and how he's being targeted by a vast conspiracy. Two years later, he gets drunk and begins raving like an anti-semitic drunkard and you don't figure there's anything more to the story? I wonder if Mel Gibson only started believing that Jews are the cause of all of the world's problems *since* "The Passion." That'd be unexpected...

comment #32

travis b. says ...

why do people pray for this guy? has anyone here ever lost someone to a drunk driver? seriously, this guy, is not worth any prayer whatsoever. How is drunk driving any different than someone walking into a mall and shooting, yet being a horrible shot and missing. Please. he should be treated the same as everyone else. i don't care if he apologizes for it. he's a grown man and he's lucky he didn't kill anyone (and for all you bastards who are glad he didnt hurt himself, if he's stupid enought to drunk drive, then screw him, he deserves to get hurt.) i have no sympathy for drunk drivers even if they have an alcohol issue like this guy.

sorry. this kind of touches a nerve. if this wasn't mel gibson would you be praying for him? if it was mel gibson and he hadn't made that passion flick, would you be praying for him? ask yourselves this, o defenders of mel, the drunk driver. then if you say yes, perhaps you should use some of that prayer for those who have been killed by idiots such as mel.

comment #33

Arch Stanton says ...

'but how the !@#$%^&* can anyone construe V for Vendetta to be either anti-Catholic or anti-Christian?'

If you've been on this board for a while you'd know that everything is anti-catholic in Nicol D's paranoid mind.

comment #34

Arch Stanton says ...

'but how the !@#$%^&* can anyone construe V for Vendetta to be either anti-Catholic or anti-Christian?'

If you've been on this board for a while you'd know that everything is anti-catholic in Nicol D's paranoid mind.

comment #35

AH says ...

Ian, while drunk we all have said things that we did not believe and later regretted. Just because he said those things, have they been confirmed yet?, does not mean that he believes them.

Therefore, as of now, this is story is not major but is being turned into a major item.

comment #36

Stella's Boy says ...

Can it really be blamed on the alcohol? He blew a .12, and while legally drunk (and of course he shouldn't have been driving) that is hardly fall down, incoherently drunk. Plus, I don't recall ever witnessing a drunk person go on a racist or sexist or anti-Semitic or whatever rant. That seems a little different to me than drunkenly saying something dumb.

comment #37

Aaron says ...

I wonder if Nicol D will bother to apologize for his pathetic attempt to blame Gibson's "alleged" anti-Semitic remarks on the LIBERAL JEW CONSPIRACY.

Probably he'll just keep being a douchebag.

comment #38

mike says ...

Where the hell were all of you when i got MY DUI? The stuff I said would get me in SO much more trouble. And my apology felt WAY more forced.

comment #39

Anonymous says ...

"1. What Mel Gibson did was asinine, dangerous, irresponsible and what he said was racist.

2. His apology and admission took courage, character and fortitude. He easily could have tried to do the celebrity spin and deny, put out counter statements etc.

3. Anyone who has financed, produced, directed, starred in or enjoyed consuming viciously anti-Catholic/christian Hollywood fare like The DaVinci Code or V for Vendetta can keep their mouth shut on this subject lest you be called a hypocrite."

One outta three ain't bad. 33 percent is a 33 more points than you normally get, Nicol. Courage, character and fortitude in admitting what is undeniable? nein, Herr Scheißekopf. The anti-catholicism of Da Vinci is a plot device, no one but a complete imbecile would leave the church because of the portrayal of Opus Dei (sorry if that applies to you, Nicol). The Croix de Lorraine theory is a nice stretch, take an obscure anti-swastika swastika (from the Free French flag) and turn it into a symbol of freedom in the service of fascism and (here's where you come in...) make the connection with an even more obscure sign of Catholicism to brainwash a generation against Rome? Let's see, you have an Anglican Bishop that sexually abuses children & rather than make him Catholic, the filmakers decide to aim a broadside against the church by using an unknown symbol? Good one, Sherlock.

Your real objection to V is that its anti-fascist. The totalitarians stand for everything you do. Being called a hypocrite by scum like you would be a badge of honor for neophytes.

comment #40

.. says ...

mel had to release an apology to save his ass and bank account. i still believe that he did mean what he let slip in his drunken state. at least he didn't deny saying those hateful things.

comment #41

Joe Nalbach says ...

I guess Hollywoods jew elite have hammered the last nail into Mel Gibson. I mean he had the audacity to make a movie about an event considered sacred to all Christians. After all the groveling he had to do to get Hollywood jews to give him a pass on the movie, (which he never got by the way), he gets condemned by the same despicable arrogant group for letting off steam. I always wondered why jews were despised around the world, the whole Mel Gibson affair has illuminated that for me. Oh by the way, I was always an ardent supporter of Israel and though not a big fan of jews, certainly didnt hate them. Gotta tell ya, you arrogant ass holes have created a ground swell of anti-semitism with this whole issue.