comment #1

sardine says ...

louella wells...... You need to watch your dreary ole clint flicks.

comment #2

Mike Schaefer says ...

No one but "girls and gays" saw Devil Wears Prada, and it made over $100M.

comment #3

Edward says ...

I'm neither a girl nor gay and really liked "Devil Wears Prada."

comment #4

nemo says ...

I like dreary old Clint flicks as much as the next manly man, but a party attended mainly by girls and gays? I'm there, man! That's the first comment that made me want to see MA.

comment #5

NYCBusybody says ...

There's a difference between gays and girls?

comment #6

jeffmcm says ...

Not when the lights are off.

comment #7

Mike Schaefer says ...

You'd be surprised, NYCBB -- there's a gay (male)rugby team in NY I'd like to introduce you to...

comment #8

actionman says ...

not gay, not a girl, and DEFINITLEY seeing this movie. fuck the CONSTANT negativity on this site and others....

comment #9

AH says ...

If the film was made for that audience, doesn't that mean that it was successful.

comment #10

James Leer says ...

Kudos on the homophobia, NYCBusybody. Maybe you can enlighten us on blacks and jews next.

comment #11

Walter Sobchak says ...

I'm neither gay or a girl and I thought "Devil Wears Prada" was a pile of crap. (it was like "Sex in the City", except without an interesting female lead or all that boring funny stuff)

btw
Would anyone else be suprised to drive down a street in Hollywood in the next few weeks and see Jeffrey (as in Wells) pulling down bus stop posters for "Marie Antoinette", stomping up and down on them and then setting them on fire?
("Lousy Sophia Coppola movie! Stupid Marie Antoinette! I HATE you! I HATE you! I HATE you!........buy Kingdom of Heaven, now on DVD!")

comment #12

D.Z. says ...

'"It's like sticking your hand in a giant meringue. Mark my words, no one will see it but gays and girls."'

Weren't they saying that about Brokeback once?

comment #13

D.Z. says ...

'"It's like sticking your hand in a giant meringue. Mark my words, no one will see it but gays and girls."'

Weren't they saying that about Brokeback once?

comment #14

NYCBusybody says ...

Actually, James, you're being both misogynistic and homophobic. For what I said to be an insult to either group, you'd have to be proposing that either group is a bad thing to be.

Which I wasn't. I was merely remarking upon their similarity. But if it's homophobic to point out that gays are effeminate men, what you're in effect saying is that being feminine is a bad thing.

You're probably racist too. Leers always are.

comment #15

fnt says ...

It's homophobic to suggest that all gays are effeminate men.

I don't know why I bother to point this out -- it's a losing battle to try to reason with a troll.

comment #16

NYCBusybody says ...

Nice trollphobia, fnt.

comment #17

NYCBusybody says ...

Besides, I have several gay friends who say any gay man who doesn't act effeminately is insecure about his homosexuality, thus trying to make it "straight", and hide it.

Assuming homophobia is caused by some sort of hormonal or chromosomal imbalance, why shouldn't it biologically lead to a more effeminate male? I think it's both homophobic and misogynistic to suggest that there's something wrong with effeminate men in the first place. I certainly didn't.

comment #18

NYCBusybody says ...

"Assuming homosexuality", I meant.

comment #19

Midwest Doug says ...

Is there anything as humorous or alarming as the phrase "Based on a true story" popping up at the end of the Marie Antoinette TV spot? Marie was like, this queen, and it was sooo unfair what happened to her.

comment #20

D.Z. says ...

Bah, Freddie Mercury was a proud faggot and metal fans don't consider him effeminate.

comment #21

NYCBusybody says ...

Then obviously, D.Z., you've never seen footage of him performing "Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy". Hell, or even heard it.

As Gareth from The Office (British version) said, "I have nothing against the gays, I mean, come around and look at my CD collection...George Michael, Pet Shop Boys, Queen...and they're all bummers".

comment #22

D.Z. says ...

Didn't know the Pet Shop Boys were gay.

comment #23

Bob Loblaw says ...

good god, you're a fucking douchebag. I'm sorry that you're incapable of conceiving of gays beyond stereotypes, but stereotypes are all they are.

A not even-slightly-flaming, fashion-sense deprived homo.

Now please fuck off, permanently.

comment #24

Bob Loblaw says ...

good god, you're a fucking douchebag. I'm sorry that you're incapable of conceiving of gays beyond stereotypes, but stereotypes are all they are.

--A not even-slightly-flaming, fashion-sense deprived homo.

(Now please fuck off, permanently.)

comment #25

NYCBusybody says ...

How is it a stereotype to say most gay men are effeminate? I never equated "effeminate" with "flaming". I just observed that most gay men, biologically of course, have a tendency to be effeminate. If you see effeminate as a bad word, you're the one to be felt sorry for.

Sounds like you're a little ashamed of your homosexuality, Bob. Let your freak flag fly. Pride in yourself, my man.

comment #26

D.Z. says ...

BTW, I just Youtubed that Queen song, and it still sounds more manly than most of the Beatles covers of
female Motown singers.

comment #27

NYCBusybody says ...

Hey, it's a damn catchy tune. Freddie was the shit.

comment #28

Bob Loblaw says ...

"If you see effeminate as a bad word, you're the one to be felt sorry for."

Where the fuck did I say anything like that? I'm not the one making up shit about all or most gays being effeminate.

"Sounds like you're a little ashamed of your homosexuality, Bob."

Good lord. Please do not ever reproduce. And stop claiming to be any sort of moderate -- you are a bigot.

comment #29

NYCBusybody says ...

I'm offended that I have to even state this, but I believe homosexuality is the cause of a chemical process that makes the average gay men have more estrogen, or feminine traits, than the average straight man. Obviously science hasn't pinpointed this yet, but it's certainly not a "choice", or a "moral failing" or a "psychological perversion", as most actual homophobes claim.

When I said, "what's the difference between gays and girls?", I was actually just refraining a common, lighthearted joke one of my very gay coworkers often tells, and he happens to be a dear friend of mine.

If you, Bob, are so paranoid that anyone who observes the obvious, empirical fact that most gay men have more effeminate traits (by this, I am not referring to "flaming" drag queen traits, but simple things like manner of walking, tone of voice) is homophobic, then you're fighting the wrong battle, man.

comment #30

Bob Loblaw says ...

I'm not paranoid, I'm just not jaw-droppingly stupid and ignorant.

Anyway, until you finally get banned like you deserve, I shall simply be "trollphobic" and ignore your homophobic (yes, that is what you are) ass.

comment #31

NYCBusybody says ...

I'll be proud to be ignored by a common thug like you, Bob, and my gay friends would be too.

comment #32

NYCBusybody says ...

But I shall never ignore your Law Blog.

comment #33

Argen says ...

You can take the hick out of the sticks, but. . .

comment #34

NYCBusybody says ...

I still see no one telling me specifically what I said untrue about homosexuality. It's biological, it's not a choice, and it leads gay men to be, on average, more effeminate than a straight man. I think most gay men are proud of this, understand the evolution behind it, and don't consider it a stereotype. To deny it seems ludicrous to me, and guided by an irrational and almost heterophobic fear.

If you're gay and not as effeminate as others, wonderful. The chemical process didn't hit as hard. Doesn't mean you're any less gay than a more effeminate one, nor should you be less proud. But when I saw the gay pride parade in NYC, there wasn't one float of straight-looking, average-Joe types - it's not exactly the image gay groups are pushing here - the gay men themselves seemed proud of their culture, and wanted to flaunt it. And I admired that.

comment #35

NYCBusybody says ...

Of course, I may have run into the vaunted Gay Mafia...

comment #36

James Leer says ...

Guys, I'm sorry. I took the troll bait. It won't happen again.

comment #37

Nate West says ...

What I wouldn't give for a large sock with horse meringue in it.

comment #38

CamilleD says ...

Did we forget we were discussing a film? Amazing how many opinions there are on films almost no one has seen.

I have seen Antoinette- and it is like cotton candy, but I enjoyed it more than Jeff W. It has a dreamy, etheral quality about it. The sets are sumptuous and the costumes terrific. Will girls like it more than boys? Probably yes. But it has no 100mill potential. It's like a study in close up of someone utterly oblivious- and not that fascinating.

comment #39

mdc says ...

"I believe homosexuality is the cause of a chemical process that makes the average gay man have..."

Is it possible you really believe this?

NYCBB, you've lived in New York about 15 minutes but we've all been treated to your opinions about West Side liberals, people on the #7 train, racism in Brooklyn (which you've decided is mostly white-on-black), etc., etc., all of which you obviously know nothing about. Now you instruct us as to the nature of gay men judging by your once seeing the Gay Pride parade. That's like saying blacks have an inherently greater propensity for violence and crime by looking at Riker's Island. Or inherently less intelligence by looking at their IQ scores. As a black man yourself, perhaps you have the equivalant "scientific" theories on racial differences? Maybe you'd share those with us too?

You're like a 13 yr. old with his first computer. You leave negative post after negative post. And if I remember correctly, the only positive one you've left was about a shallow, slick, media-driven hack like Barack Obama (and I'm a liberal). And what did you like about him? His "likeability." Thanks for another deep insight.

comment #40

nemo says ...

Antonio Fargas in Car Wash to NYCBusybody: Honey, I'm more man than you'll ever be and more woman than you'll ever get.

comment #41

sardine says ...

MA is marvelous. Everybody GO!

comment #42

christian says ...

is sardine a publicist for MA or what? how many tmes has this sardine been able to access it?

re NYC's incredible perception that a gay not acting fey means he's hiding out..well, maybe sometimes, but that don't take in account gay soldiers, a few who i know who would kick your straight ass up bleecker street for saying they have to act fem. course, your freedom party doesn't want them defending the country anyway.

but i still like the idea of araki directing indy 4.

comment #43

TPK says ...

NYCBB...I'd say it's high time you found some new gay friends. You are way off-base.