Economy Is Up

Happiness and lethargy are merely flip sides of the same coin. People who go "whoopee" when things are going well and "woe is me" when things are going badly are slaves in a jungle of illusion. There is only the cosmic hum and continuity of it all.

That is why people who spray champagne on their friends and scream "we're number one!" when their football or soccer or baseball or basketball teams wins are cosmic midgets. And why this front-page story that appeared in the Times this afternoon will only excite or encourage children.

It reads, "After days of flirting with its all-time peak, the Dow Jones industrial average finally set a new record this afternoon. The Dow gained 56.99 points, or 0.5 percent, to close at 11,727.34. The index’s previous closing high of 11,722.98 was set on Jan. 14, 2000.

"The latest record came as oil prices fell about 3 percent and dropped below $60 a barrel for the first time since March. Energy prices have been falling in the last month because fears of hurricanes, troubles in the Middle East and tight supplies have eased markedly since the end of summer.

"Earlier today, the Dow topped another record reached on Jan. 14, 2000, as it traded at an all-time intraday high of 11,758.87. The stock market rally that led to the 2000 peak had been fueled by growth in technology and a belief that the internet would transform businesses. The rally over the last few months, however, has had more modest roots: signs that the economy is moderating and inflation is tame."

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on October 3, 2006 at 3:59 PM

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Larry Author Profile Page says ...

I couldn't agree more. That's why you've got to stop all your tiresome bashing of the Iraq war every time there's any bad news. And certainly you've got to stop saying every crackpot anti-Iraq or anti-Bush documentary that comes down the pike is important.

Posted by Larry Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 4:57 PM

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caslab Author Profile Page says ...

You're getting weirder and weirder, Jeff.

Posted by caslab Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 4:59 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

I'd like to see a list of who else Wells considers to be 'cosmic midgets'.

And he thinks David Poland is a smug know-it-all, jesus.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 5:23 PM

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Mr. Muckle Author Profile Page says ...

Well, Larry, the Iraq war is not a given like the weather that we just have to accept in quiet observation of its ups and downs. It was a massive fuckup from the day it was conceived in the minds of a few nihilistic, neocon, Republican midgets.

Posted by Mr. Muckle Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 5:45 PM

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York "Budd" Durden Author Profile Page says ...

I'm having anxiety awaiting NYCBusybody and Nicol D to chime in.

Wells isn't getting weirder when he posts things like this. He's hittin' the note.

Posted by York "Budd" Durden Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 6:22 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

I just don't think Wells is capable of the kind of pretentious zen philosophizing he's attempting here. He's a contrarian hipster - trying to outsmart bigger and better-respected publications like the Times is his reason to exist.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 7:20 PM

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Nate West Author Profile Page says ...

I was reading about a wounded veteran of the Iraq War. He's in Walter Reed Hospital "recovering." An explosion blinded him and tore off both of his hands. He is also so severely brain damaged that he does not respond to stimuli left to him. His story is not uncommon.

"Happiness and lethargy are merely flip sides of the same coin," is a comment only somebody who has the luxury of being a spectator would say.

Posted by Nate West Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 7:22 PM

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L.B. Author Profile Page says ...

"'Happiness and lethargy are merely flip sides of the same coin,' is a comment only somebody who has the luxury of being a spectator would say."

Or someone almost completely anesthetized to the highs and lows of living. Or the highly Prozaced or otherwise medicated.

Posted by L.B. Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 7:38 PM

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americanrat Author Profile Page says ...

Today, America stands at a crossroads.

The Dow Industrial Average is trading at an all-time, dangerous high.

The nation's unemployment rate holds steady at 4.6%, and dozens of Americans are without work.

More Americans own homes than ever before, creating substandard, hand-to-mouth living conditions for the nation's apartment managers and slumlords.

Middle class tax cuts have given most Americans more money than they know what to do with. The result? Ugly Bluetooth cell phones sticking out of people's ears, and the rise of a dangerous new generation of Elmo dolls, TMX Elmo.

Finally, low gas prices spell even more danger for Mother Earth. As the unnatural lack of hurricanes this season proves, global warming is a bigger threat than ever.

What can the average American do in these uncertain times?

The answer is simple.

They can vote for change. They can vote Democrat.

Today's new and improved Democratic party can end the dangerous and risky stock boom. They can bring the price of your home down, so that even the least fortunate American can afford to buy it. They can increase the price of gas and save Mother Earth. And of course, they can raise taxes on all Americans so no Americans can afford Bluetooth again.

And, perhaps most importantly, returning Congress to Democrats will ensure that the urban cores of our greatest cities - New York, Philadelphia, Boston, San Francisco - will be quickly and efficiently rebuilt after al Queda destroys them with dirty bombs and backpack nukes.

So this November, just say "Hell no!" to the risky Republican policies that have brought us to the brink of unknown and uncharted economic territory.

Vote Democrat, and return us to the good old days, when enlightened minds like Jimmy Carter steered our great nations economic and foreign policy, and Bill Clinton gave us moral codes any American could follow. Remember, there's nothing wrong with having some fun with an intern as long as she's 19 years old.

Vote Democrat and together we can all find out what "Blue America" really means.

Posted by americanrat Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 7:47 PM

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cust71 Author Profile Page says ...

I love it. Jeff, this is a banner year for reading your column. I can't remember since I started reading in the Reel.com days how interesting the stories and now, the feedback are getting. Kudos all around. If you're ever in Wisconsin, drinks on me.

Posted by cust71 Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 8:08 PM

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frankbooth Author Profile Page says ...

There's nothing wrong with having fun with a page as long as he's 16 years old...and then conspiring to cover it up.

Let the fun begin.

Posted by frankbooth Author Profile Page at October 3, 2006 8:22 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

"The nation's unemployment rate holds steady at 4.6%,"

Too bad most of the people being employed by American corporations are in China and India.

"More Americans own homes than ever before, creating substandard, hand-to-mouth living conditions for the nation's apartment managers and slumlords."

Actually, most Americans don't really own houses per se as much as are hoping their adjustable mortgage rates don't screw them over when the boom
finally corrects itself soon. Ironically, more people buying houses has actually led to less Americans being able to afford them, because the houses are being co-opted by speculators as part of a dangerous shell game that only those who have the collateral are willing to risk.

"Middle class tax cuts have given most Americans more money than they know what to do with."

Of course, you're calculating before inflation costs.

"Finally, low gas prices spell even more danger for Mother Earth."

Yep. It just means more people supporting terrorists instead of saving energy.

"As the unnatural lack of hurricanes this season proves, global warming is a bigger threat than ever."

You don't really need hurricanes as an indicator to know that temperatures are on the rise and glaciers are quite the opposite.

"And, perhaps most importantly, returning Congress to Democrats will ensure that the urban cores of our greatest cities - New York, Philadelphia, Boston, San Francisco - will be quickly and efficiently rebuilt after al Queda destroys them with dirty bombs and backpack nukes."

At least that's a better prospect than what Bush is currently doing for New Orleans after Katrina.

"Vote Democrat, and return us to the good old days, when enlightened minds like Jimmy Carter steered our great nations economic and foreign policy,"

At least Carter stopped a war between two Middle Eastern countries. And the economic crisis was technically the mess he inherited from Nixon and Ford.

"and Bill Clinton gave us moral codes any American could follow."

Yes, going after perpetrators of terrorist attacks
instead of using the attacks to start senseless wars is pretty admirable.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 12:28 AM

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mizerock Author Profile Page says ...

"Last Throes" - the insurgency in Iraq, or the Republican majority in Congress?

Posted by mizerock Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 7:39 AM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

Man! Next time my favorite sports team wins a championship, I'll be sure to quiet the celebration amongst my friends by standing on a table, asking for general merriment to subside, and informing everyone in a somber, ominous tone that they are all, in fact, "Slaves in a jungle of illusion".

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 8:50 AM

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Michael Author Profile Page says ...

NYC...his son goes to Syracuse, give him a break. He knows Jett won't have to worry about this for a while...

Posted by Michael Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 8:58 AM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

"Or someone almost completely anesthetized to the highs and lows of living. Or the highly Prozaced or otherwise medicated."

LB nails that one.

as for how wunderful things are in amuurica today, go visit that amish community or the colorado school and ask them if republican-nra pushed gun control restrictions might have any more positive effect in the future...

or you can vote repub and get those school children armed and ready to shoot back!

and i'll send any of you iraq war pimps over to my young republican friend scott who just returned from iraq with a purple heart who can't get a job nor assistance from the overcrowded underfunded va, who joined up to fight terrorism for george bush but now believes they are all crooks based on what he's experienced.

just another duped lib i guess.


Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 10:08 AM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

Having armed security at schools would be a wonderful idea. No need to arm kids, just arm a bad-ass motherfucker at the door.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 10:59 AM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

"Having armed security at schools would be a wonderful idea. No need to arm kids, just arm a bad-ass motherfucker at the door."

and this is how republicans deal with cause and effect problems: deal with the effect by increasing its power and never address the cause.

of course a country that teaches its populace to worship christ and deify the right to own human killing weapons is one doomed to repeat its mistakes.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 11:17 AM

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Min Author Profile Page says ...


"The Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a record high today: 11,727 -- four points higher than the previous record, set January 14, 2000. So if you invested $1,000 in the 30 companies in the Dow six years and almost nine months ago, you'd have $1000.34 today!

But, alas, if you invested that same amount in the S&P 500 Index (which in the winter of 2000 was bubbliciously full of tech stocks) you'd have only $910.56, and if you "invested" it in the companies in the Nasdaq Composite (the souffle of '90s equity indices) you'd have just $552.04.

Now, doesn't that make you feel better about the economy?

(Full disclosure: The dollar amounts above are actually a little light, since they don't include dividends. On the other hand, they also don't include fees, commissions and other investment expenses. In any case, I think you probably get the idea -- taking almost 7 years to get back to where you started isn't exactly something to brag about.)"

billmon at October 3, 2006

Amen Brother billmon. Amen.

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 11:35 AM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

"of course a country that teaches its populace to worship christ"

Ah, just wait long enough, and the spittle-spewing liberal will reveal his anti-Christianity roots in the end. And "deify" the right to bear arms? (A Constitutional right, by the way)? Is there actually an angry liberal handbook out there? Is a "Zionist pig conspiracy" quote next?

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 12:10 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Since it appears that the Democrats have the best chance in over a decade to take control of congress, or at least the House, I'm going to be interested to see what happens when there is no more right wing bogeyman to pin everything on. And if Hillary takes the White House in '08, and if all the country's problems aren't solved by 2010, what then? I imagine we'll hear, "Well, it will take awhile to undo all the damage that the Bush Administration did." But that can only last for so long.

As the man said, be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 12:17 PM

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Michael Author Profile Page says ...

christian, exactly what gun restriction that wasn't implemented would have prevented what happened at that school? Can you even hint at one?

Posted by Michael Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 12:23 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Rich: 'And if Hillary takes the White House in '08, and if all the country's problems aren't solved by 2010, what then? I imagine we'll hear, "Well, it will take awhile to undo all the damage that the Bush Administration did."'

In Bill's case, it was healing the damage from Bush Sr. and Reagan.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 12:40 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

michael, for your learning pleasure from october 4, 2006:

"(CBS) The National Rifle Association gave thousands of dollars last month to Colorado state legislators in an effort to defeat gun control laws inspired by the Columbine massacre. CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports many of those measures were voted down this week.

Only a few token laws, those supported by the NRA, passed. One allows cops to arrest people who buy guns for criminals and children; another re-authorizes a state background check program.

Most of the other proposals were shot down. Among other things, these laws required background checks at gun shows, safe storage of guns at home and an increase in the age for buying a handgun from 18 to 21."

now, tell me why gun owners -- who have no problem with unconstitutional wiretapping -- scream about liburals appeasing terrorists. well, the trrorists know where to find weapons when they want them: wal-mart.

and dear NYC, my name is christian, not anti-christian. unlike your party, i actually try to follow christ's wise tenets, the ones you seem to hold as liberal weakness, like:

Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to
him the other also. [Matthew 5:39]

which clearly goes against your bad ass ways of vengeance...

Watch out! Be on your guard against all
kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.]

unless you're the wall street journal or donald trump...

oh, and here's one your party seems to ignore as often as possible:

Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

so please tell me why jesus hates america.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 12:54 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

I wouldn't know, christian, since I'm an agnostic myself, but I happen to mostly have a deep respect the Protestant Judeo/Christian ethics and values that America was built on.

But, if you're so Christian, christian, why did you espouse a problem with a nation that "teaches its populace to worship Christ"?

And also, your little demonizing diatribe against the NRA didn't answer the question at all. The article you posted quotes these as being the laws the NRA fought against:

"background checks at gun shows, safe storage of guns at home and an increase in the age for buying a handgun from 18 to 21."

Which of those has anything to do with a 33 year old walking into an Amish schoolhouse, with a gun he may not have bought at a gun show, and if he had a prior perfectly clean record?


Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:14 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Sorry, D.Z. Been reading you too long. Not biting.

I just want to point out once again that if the Democrats once again take control of 2/3 of the three branches, part of the electorate is going to expect that people like George Soros, Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, Howard Dean, Michael Moore, Al Gore and, yes, D.Z., will have their viewpoints acted upon. I just hope, for all our sakes, that their grand plans will work as well as they say they will.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:17 PM

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Min Author Profile Page says ...

But that can only last for so long. As the man said, be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. Posted by: Rich S


Yeah Rich. Ass-fucking 16 year-olds IOKIYAR but not if one is a Dem(aka Stubbs). Whoa wait! We are Republicans and we don't need no stinking laws for our club. Foley only flirted. Right? And we should take this man's word because...because...because???
Drudge said it's the page's fault so it must be true. But thankfully the GOP is out in full force saying "homos=kiddie rapers." Let's not forget that we hate women and they have no right to birth-control and abortion. Why you ask? Because we proud GOPers only kill "born" babies with uranium-tipped bombs and the defunding of social programs and we need more born babies to kill.

See you on the front line. Coward.

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:19 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

"Let's not forget that we hate women and they have no right to birth-control and abortion"

The majority of pro-life people in this country (many of whom are women) don't even begin to see the abortion issue as having anything to do with women's rights. You either believe a human fetus is life, or you don't.

"Defunding of social programs" killing starving Americans? The only nation in the world where poor people are the fattest in the country? Is the Mao/Pol Pot/Ho Chi Minh Communist-left quotebook still in effect?

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:27 PM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

In keeping with this theme, attached is an interesting article on the global economy from the International Herald Tribune.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/03/opinion/edstig.php

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:27 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Min,

Been hanging out with D.Z. lately? Because your post is only slightly more responsive than one of his.

Nothing I've written says anything about Rep. Foley or his deplorable acts. Or abortion. Or birth control. Or uranium tipped bombs.

I have merely made the observation that after all the finger-pointing and blame placing, the Dems are finally going to be in a position where they can actually take action and fix all these problems. And I can't wait to see it. Will Nancy Pelosi's first act as majority leader be: a) to seek a resolution setting a timetable for withdrawing from Iraq; b) to propose legislation seeking additional funding for the reconstruction of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast; c) to propose legislation promoting the use of alternative energy sources; d) to form a committee to examine implementation of universal health care, or e) to call for an independent prosecutor to investigate wrongdoing by the administration. You tell me.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:29 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

"only kill "born" babies with uranium-tipped bombs "

And boy, if I've ever heard a more despicable demonization of the United States Armed Forces, I don't think I can remember it, unless it was Sean Penn or Jane Fonda.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:30 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

NYC: "I wouldn't know, christian, since I'm an agnostic myself, but I happen to mostly have a deep respect the Protestant Judeo/Christian ethics and values that America was built on."

You mean the kind of ethics which allowed women to be tried and executed as witches and black people to be considered sub-human enough to be enslaved?

"The majority of pro-life people in this country (many of whom are women) don't even begin to see the abortion issue as having anything to do with women's rights. You either believe a human fetus is life, or you don't."

Of course, as soon as it's born, that fetus can still be tried and executed for murder in states like Texas.

"And boy, if I've ever heard a more despicable demonization of the United States Armed Forces, I don't think I can remember it, unless it was Sean Penn or Jane Fonda."

They army demonizes itself with its refusal to give troops proper equipment and its use of banned chemical weapons on civilian populations.

Michael: "christian, exactly what gun restriction that wasn't implemented would have prevented what happened at that school? Can you even hint at one?"

A psychological evaluation of the buyer would have been nice.

Also from http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/04/national/main2060562.shtml
: "Using a checklist that was later found in his pickup truck, Roberts brought to the school three guns, a stun gun, two knives, a pile of wood for barricading the doors, and a bag with 600 rounds of ammunition, police said."

I'd normally be suspicious of anyone who buys that much ammo, wouldn't you?

Rich: "I just want to point out once again that if the Democrats once again take control of 2/3 of the three branches, part of the electorate is going to expect that people like George Soros, Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, Howard Dean, Michael Moore, Al Gore and, yes, D.Z., will have their viewpoints acted upon. I just hope, for all our sakes, that their grand plans will work as well as they say they will."

It worked pretty well for Clinton. Best economy in decades, and no domestic terrorist threats. That is, until Bush came along.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:51 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

"Best economy in decades, and no domestic terrorist threats"

Except for that slight bombing of the WTC in '93.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:55 PM

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Min Author Profile Page says ...

Rich S.

Your sin is that you stand back as if not affected. Are you an ailen with a way off this planet? No, I think not. There is war going on here in this country and you must take sides. For your own sake. I do believe that you aren't the dumb cunt that NYCBusybody is. But do you really want a jizz rag like her to determine your worth as a human being?

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 1:56 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

Ah, Min, who two posts ago said the GOP hates women, uses the phrases "dumb cunt" and "jizz rag" to refer to me, as a woman.

I'll let the irony speak for itself, although I'll point out that I'm quite male.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:02 PM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

These right-left arguments are really getting tiresome. We should demand that the politicians we support are working for the betterment of our Country and not of the Democratic or Republican Party. Voting for someone only because they are a Republican or Democrat won't solve any problems and only continue the growing divide between the left and the right.

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:03 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Min,

The level of discourse with you is, shall I say, interesting. Your choice of language is intriguing, but not particularly persuasive. If I sound detached, it's generally because I don't engage in the reflexive namecalling that most of the politically active on this site devolve into.

From your latest post, it's not clear which war you are referring to. Is it Iraq? Afghanistan? If I had to guess, I would guess it's the so-called "culture war" that Fox and all the other ratings-starved media outlets are trying to promote.

I have strongly held beliefs, to be sure. But I choose to act on them in more constructive ways than merely making posts on a movie review site. If I must take sides, however, I think it would be safest not to be on the side you are on.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:07 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

"But, if you're so Christian, christian, why did you espouse a problem with a nation that "teaches its populace to worship Christ"?"

well NYC, since i believe many repubs only use the right side of their God-given brain, you should be able to parse the leftist irony that i'm getting at with that statement.

in other words, if you believe so strongly in the religious values of this country, do you not find any schism between "thou shall not kill" and the party that favors available weaponry and the death penalty? no?

see, i think jesus was a righteous dude. and he would have no problem helping the poor but he would have a problem with our troops gang raping a 14 year old girl, killing her family and burning her body. this happened in iraq under the democratization process of bush's war policies.

and policemen across america have tried to stop the sale of 50 caliber sniper rifles designed soley to puncture body armor, including aircraft.

please tell me why a terrorist wouldn't want one of these constitutionally approved babies?

or is that just a blowback to freedom?

peace.


Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:08 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

"he would have a problem with our troops gang raping a 14 year old girl, killing her family and burning her body. this happened in iraq under the democratization process of bush's war policies."

I'm sure Jesus would have a problem with this, as does every other American and proud serviceman who know that the actions of an evil few don't equate the entire group.

And, of course, in America, these evil people are punished. In the Islamic world, they'd be hailed as martyrs.

Your opinions are cute, but when you start denigrating and demonizing the United States Armed Forces, it's gotten really repugnant. If the only way you can make your point is to do so, I feel nothing but sadness for you.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:14 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

NYC, it's people like you and those you supported that kept my dad in vietnam while he was sprayed by agent orange, all of which your party denied and any attempt to actually protect troops by pointing this out was painted as amurica bashing.

and without knowing your background, i grew up on military bases so my support and compassion for our soldiers is nothing for me to feel sorry about.

but i'm sure you'll be unhappy to know that my traitorous republican father had to sue the us government for them to finallly admit that, oh yeah, we did spray youse guys with agent orange. sorry for lying to you for twenty years. here's your check and sucks about the cancer.

don't feel sorry for me. save it for those troops that are the real casualties of war along with the truth.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:38 PM

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Min Author Profile Page says ...

NYCBusybody is a he!!! Thank God and I bet he'd like to suck off Michael Savage and Gannon/Guckert thinking of their Lord and Saviour George W. Bush. Does that get you hard? NYCBusybody is still a cunt. Hey stupid what say you? You got it wrong yet again. Do you read?

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/04/school-violence-funding/

FACT CHECK: Bush Slashed Funding For School Violence Prevention

In the past few weeks, the nation has been stunned by the rash of school shootings in Colorado, Wisconsin, and at an Amish schoolhouse in Pennyslvania. President Bush said he was �saddened and deeply concerned� about the shootings and plans to convene a summit of education and law enforcement experts to discuss federal action that can help communities prevent violence.

Bush�s rhetoric doesn�t match his record. He has consistently recommended pulling funding for school violence prevention programs:

� In 2006, Bush proposed a five percent cut for youth and crime prevention programs. Bush�s 2005 budget proposed a 40 percent drop in juvenile-crime prevention, following a 44 percent cut in 2004.

� The Bush administration has repeatedly recommended eliminating federal funding for the Safe and Drug-Free Schools
and Communities State Grants program, which works on juvenile-crime prevention.

� Since 2001, Congress has voted to retain the Grants program over the administration�s objections, but at reduced levels. Funding for the program was $439.2 million in 2001 but fell to $346.5 million this year, with $310 million recommended for 2007.

� More than half the nation�s school districts receive $10,000 or less per year to fight violence and substance abuse � �too little to make a difference� according to an Education Department official.

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 2:42 PM

comment #42

Min Author Profile Page says ...

Rich S said:

I have strongly held beliefs, to be sure. But I choose to act on them in more constructive ways than merely making posts on a movie review site. If I must take sides, however, I think it would be safest not to be on the side you are on.

You're being weasely. Please review your past posts and put them up against this last statement. Again, please don't be your own worse enemy.

I always log/document my posts and those I'm responding too.

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:10 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

NYC: "Except for that slight bombing of the WTC in '93."

Too bad it happened under Bush Senior's watch. From http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/ramzi-yousef/:

"...In late 1992, Yousef entered the country with a fake Iraqi passport and asked for asylum. His traveling companion was arrested immediately when a search of his luggage revealed bomb-making manuals. Because the INS holding cells were overcrowded, Yousef was released with instructions to come back a month later for a hearing. D'oh!
Yousef traveled around New York and New Jersey, immediately contacting a cell of Islamic Jihad operatives loyal to the notorious blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, a controversial extremist Muslim preacher who had been granted entree to the country by the CIA (which had hoped to befriend him). D'oh! D'oh!..."

Also, if you want to be technical, Clinton was only sworn in a month before the first WTC attack, so he was probably still putting together his cabinet. Bush had six months to respond.

"Ah, Min, who two posts ago said the GOP hates women, uses the phrases "dumb cunt" and "jizz rag" to refer to me, as a woman."

Well insulting them is certainly a step up from bombing them.

"I'm sure Jesus would have a problem with this, as does every other American and proud serviceman who know that the actions of an evil few don't equate the entire group."

Yes, and Mai Lai was also an isolated case, just like Auschwitz.

"And, of course, in America, these evil people are punished."

You mean by giving them a few years in jail if they're well-connected, and time off for good behavior?

christian: "but i'm sure you'll be unhappy to know that my traitorous republican father had to sue the us government for them to finallly admit that, oh yeah, we did spray youse guys with agent orange."

You think he had it bad? You should see some of the photos of deformed Vietnamese children of sprayed farmers who we were trying to "liberate", but whom we refuse to compensate for their suffering. You should be glad if your dad can still even have the strength to go to court, because some of those poor bastards would probably only be able to find work in a jar at the circus. Oh well, science has no place in dictating the existence of evolution, global warming, and the Gulf War Syndrome.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:14 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

Don't quite understand, Min, how I was wrong? If the Bush Administration's budget indeed contains cuts for school violence protection, I would say, yes, I might want to take a look at that. Although, of course, most of the above says FEDERAL funding, as opposed to state funding, which is where such things belong, as I'm sure Bush would agree.

Be that as it may, I'm the one who suggested arming a guard at every school door. Is Thinkprogress.com agreeing with me, then, that Bush isn't doing enough to support that? That'd be cool!

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:16 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

NYC: "Although, of course, most of the above says FEDERAL funding, as opposed to state funding, which is where such things belong, as I'm sure Bush would agree."

Yes, New Orleans was certainly able to take care of itself without federal funding which goes to killing people instead of universal health care.


Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:29 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

Zelter!

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:32 PM

comment #47

christian Author Profile Page says ...

DZ, i don't compare others' pain and suffering, but my dad did die a slow and painful cancer death accerbated by his exposure to agent orange.

in other words, war is hell.

go tell that to mr. peace-nik jesus.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:32 PM

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NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

If ever a thread existed to justify the Republican claims that leftists actually DO believe the American military are the murderers, and not the terrorists, this does it. Kerry may object, but I suspect DZ et al. represent more of the liberal mindset in this country than the moderate Dems let on.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:38 PM

comment #49

D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

"If ever a thread existed to justify the Republican claims that leftists actually DO believe the American military are the murderers, and not the terrorists, this does it."

They're only terrorists when they're not working for us.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:42 PM

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Min Author Profile Page says ...

NYCbb,

You claim Bush/federal attaboys time and again, Yet you don't provide links backing up your words.

Don't you see why many users of this log consider you a big fucking lying asshole of the first degree?

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:53 PM

comment #51

NYCBusybody Author Profile Page says ...

If I'm disliked by the likes of you, DZ, and christian, I wear that as a badge of honor, my good man.

Posted by NYCBusybody Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 3:57 PM

comment #52

Min Author Profile Page says ...

If I'm disliked by the likes of you, DZ, and christian, I wear that as a badge of honor, my good man. Posted by NYCBusybody at October 4, 2006 03:57 PM

And how many people would you turn in (bare false witness), ala Pinochet's Chile, to reach your comfort level?

You are really stupid and one of the dumbest right-wing cunts on the planet. And who is to believe that you have any honor?

Posted by Min Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 4:52 PM

comment #53

americanrat Author Profile Page says ...

Read it here first and weep left-os - rising dow, cheap gas, incredibly low unemployment all spell GOP retention of congress in 2006.

Oh, and Drudge is saying Foley had IMsex with an 18 y.o - consensual and not remotely illegal. ABC lied. What's with all the leftwing gaybashing?

What a hoot. The left is in freefall. You guys will pick up a few seats here and there, maybe do us a favor and get rid of that moron Santorum, and it will be spun as the biggest dem defeat since, oh, 2004.

Posted by americanrat Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 5:37 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

well NYC, i never claimed to not like you. i'm always glad to have open debates. one of the reasons i love this country, dontcha know.

liberals know terrorists are bad, jesus. but we're supposed to be better. that's the starting point for winning a war on terror. kerry, unlike bush or cheney, voluntarily faced combat for america. and your "support the troops" party called his purple heart bullshit. which reveals as much about the conservative mindset.

and i don't like the name calling from the left anymore than the right. but it's time to wake up.

uh, what movie were we talking about?

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 9:00 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

americanrat: Drudge is a liar like all Republicans. And gas prices are still insanely higher than they were before Bush stole the presidency. The guy just got all the oil companies to take a hit for the election, and will jack everything up if the Republicans retain a majority. Finally, employment is still not high enough to keep up with lay-offs or with demand. The Dems will not only win, but set the Repugs back from winning for decades, if ever, unless Diebold has its way.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 4, 2006 9:06 PM

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Argen Author Profile Page says ...

"a liar like all Republicans"

I sometimes wonder why political debate in this country has degraded so much. Thanks for contributing to the cause, jackass.

"I suspect DZ et al. represent more of the liberal mindset in this country than the moderate Dems let on."

At least this shows that it isn't one side's fault, so thanks for that.

Posted by Argen Author Profile Page at October 5, 2006 10:12 PM

comment #57

D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Argen: "I sometimes wonder why political debate in this country has degraded so much. Thanks for contributing to the cause, jackass."

Thanks for co-opting the cause by being a Republican-lite.

"At least this shows that it isn't one side's fault, so thanks for that."

Yes, if it weren't for those damn communists, Hitler would have won the war, too.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at October 6, 2006 2:09 AM

comment #58

L.B. Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, go jam it up your stupid ass with a sharpened stick, D.Z.

Honestly, the world is immune to your ill-informed and badly communicated bullshit. Shut up or die or do some fucking thing. Just leave the rest of us alone.

Posted by L.B. Author Profile Page at October 6, 2006 8:53 PM

comment #59

L.B. Author Profile Page says ...

I apologize to the rest of you for the crude and largely content-free nature of my previous post but sometimes the stupidity just takes its toll.

Posted by L.B. Author Profile Page at October 6, 2006 8:54 PM

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