comment #1

Alan Cerny says ...

Yay! The news gets better and better.

comment #2

Mr. Muckle says ...

A huge day for Bush-loathers, but the fact is, he has never governed conservatively. I like to think of that word independently of its popular spin. There's nothing conservative about starting unnecessary wars, ballooning budget deficits, abandoning very reliable long-held constitutional principles, torturing people, corrupting democracy and the political process in favor of the highest bidder, creating untold animosity abroad for the country, and incompetently botching almost every domestic and foreign affair you undertake. Good freaking riddance.

comment #3

christian says ...

what a wonderful country.

and a sad day for NYC busybody.

comment #4

D.Z. says ...

I'd prefer he was executed for collaborating with Saddam.

comment #5

sardine says ...

yes!!!! What a wonderful country. We must fight to keep VIRGINIA!!!!!

comment #6

MoisesChiu says ...

NYCbusybody is a fictional character invented by pinko commie freedom haters in the gay jew woman liberal media...he doesn't exist!

comment #7

christian says ...

oh, and just a sample of the conservative wisdom from one of their heroes on november 1:

"It at least seems clear that Democrat gains this year are going to fall far short of the historical average. No poll has the Democrats winning even half of their rightful midterm gains."

thanks ann. back to your coke and booze.

comment #8

christian says ...

webb has virginia.

this was the only race i prayed for.

god moves in mysterious ways.

btw, michael j. fox helped swing this election fer sure.

ain't democracy grand?

comment #9

christian says ...

oh, and the president gives us his sharp analysis:

"Actually, I thought we were going to do fine yesterday," Bush said. "Shows what I know."

yes, it do.

but maybe you should stop letting karl rove whisper in your ear...

comment #10

MoisesChiu says ...

Looks like Ann of Our Discontent hasn't posted anything since Nov. 1. Anyone think she spontaneously combusted? I'd love to hear her spin on this one. "It wasn't America that chose this, it was those Democrats that lied to and misled the American people. What the Democrats aren't telling you is that this was all an effort to give the Southwest back to Mexico. Pretty soon, the Mexican Fascists will rise and overcome us due to a lack of a Great Wall of Freedom keeping them out of Freedomlandia."

comment #11

christian says ...

it's a great day to hear right wing talk radio hosts as their heads collectively explode ala SCANNERS.

comment #12

AH says ...

The only reason why I am glad for these results is because now, hopefully, we will have some real checks and balances without one party controlling everything. The challenge for the Dems now is to make sure that they govern and not just persecute.

As for Bush, I just saw his press conference and he showed why people who like, really like him. He took the responsibility and moved on.

comment #13

ArchiveGuy says ...

Did you see the same conference I did? Because the Bush I saw came off as petualant and royally pissed; sure his words were "conciliatory", but the delivery was terse and his answers to questions were impatient. I think his tone said much more about his true state-of-mind than his speech did, since he HAD to say those things, but you could tell it was a bitter pill and he didn't mean most of it.

comment #14

MattyC says ...

"As for Bush, I just saw his press conference and he showed why people who like (him), really like him. He took the responsibility and moved on."

I agree that this is exactly why people support him, however, for people who don't, this is also exactly why we don't. He is doing only now, in the wake of defeat, he should have been doing, oh, 3 and a half years ago. And saying he didn't announce/admit that Rummy was being let go because he didn't want to disrupt the elections?!? Of course he didn't!

It reminded me of the scene in Sideways when Miles finally comes clean to Maya, and when fumbling for an answer as to why he didn't do so sooner, she fills in for him "...but you wanted to fuck me first?" Bush wanted to Fuck us before admitting Rummy was toast.

So, yay! to Bush being contrite, extending an olive branch, building a bridge, whatever the fuck he says he's doing, I'm happy. I just wish we didn't have to FORCE him to see the light. It's like when you're 8, and you punch your 6 year old brother because he annoyed you, and your mom makes you apologize. You're not really sorry, but she's MOM, so what are you gonna do.

comment #15

christian says ...

the great myth of "regular guy" bush continues for some.

this is his poker face. behind that aw shucks bullshit lies a man who has no problem destroying his opponents, friends or innocents.

but no longer.

frodo has the ring again.

comment #16

jsp says ...

haha...you libs make me laugh. congrats u won but come-on this happens in every two-term presidency - reagan, clinton, eienshower - what happened last night was expected and so yeah enjoy and savor it but you know democrats will screw up in no time....

power corrupts all...no matter reps or dems

comment #17

AH says ...

I never said Bush was a "regular guy." He's the POTUS and no "regular guy" can reach that position. However, he does have the "I don't listen to polls, I tell the polls what to think" attitude that some people really admire.

I agree that it would have been better if we didn't have to go through all this to get Bush to "see the light" but remember its not just him, its a mentality that has to change.

That's why I said earlier that I hoped that the Dems govern and not persecute because for this mentality to change they need to show how to govern and govern right.

comment #18

christian says ...

agreed. and i'm not a lockstepper for dems.

but they know we're watching them close.

that said, it's time to break out the subpoenas.

comment #19

jsp says ...

subpoenas? god you democrats really want shoot ur self foot don't you?

do stuff people care about - simplify tax code, green policies and independence from foreign oil, minimum wage increase, better trade deals, tougher sentences on criminals, kick the asses of the terriosts...and you win everytime.

that's what pre-1968 democratic stood for - tough defence and supporting the middle class- and that's why they were party in power for so long...but hippies took over and they been losing ever since...

comment #20

crabbieshollywood.blogspot.com says ...

gloat gloat gloat gloat

comment #21

NYCBusybody says ...

America didn't vote for liberals, they voted against a Republican Party that had lost its way, and wasn't conservative anymore.

Have any of you idiots even looked at the Democrats that got elected? Jon Tester? Heath Shuler? These are family-values, conservative Democrats, who only won in Red Districts because they aren't liberal but also aren't Mark Foley or George Bush, unpopular because of the war. Do you really think the rest of America suddenly likes San Franciso/Manhattan/Hollywood values?

It's a cleansing time for the Conservative movement. Sometimes the country isn't where we're at, and you just take your lumps, admit it, and move on. It shows the despicable childishness of the Left that they can't do the same - if they lose an election, it was "stolen". If Republicans really could, or would, do that, wouldn't they have this time? Again, this proves that Conservatives are truly grown-ups, masculine, and the left are, and always, will be, feminized whiners, and lovers of terrorism.

Besides, it's more fun to be on the offensive. Destroying Nancy Pelosi and her band of America-hating sub-intellectual Democrats will be a ball. If they even make ONE slight move to the left, they'll be killed, because people didn't vote for that. And if she physically meets the fate of the Team America liberals, I wouldn't be too upset. Huzzah to her demise.

comment #22

hatchetface says ...

Your terrible writing skills and wholesale murder of ellipses are harshing my mellow, dude.

comment #23

Craig Kennedy says ...

My favorite part of the press conference was when Bush tried to convince us we'd misunderstood what he meant by "stay the course". It turns out it doesn't mean "stubbornly keep making the same mistakes over and over because admitting you F'ed up isn't an option"

Fascinating.

comment #24

jsp says ...

i have to agree with nyc...Nancy Pelosi is train-wreck waiting to happen. she won't last 6 months...

comment #25

NYCBusybody says ...

Read conservative blogs today, it's actually quite a calm and mellow mood. We've been here before. We know Americans still generally side with us, and we'll recover. It's a bad day to be a Republican, but a great day to be a conservative. Being able to channel hatred and anger for someone who represents everything horrible and indecent about humanity like Nancy Pelosi or Cindy Sheehan (who will become the new face of the Dem. Party, probably within months) is fun, much better than having to be on the defensive.

comment #26

NYCBusybody says ...

Now it's time for Dems to empower criminals like Alcee Hastings, who Pelosi is set to assign a top-level Oversight position:

"In 1989, Hastings was impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives for bribery and perjury. The Democratic-controlled Senate convicted Judge Hastings of accepting a $150,000 bribe in 1981 in exchange for a lenient sentence and of perjury in his testimony about the case. He became only the sixth Judge in the history of impeachment in the United States to be removed from office by the United States Senate."

comment #27

Craig Kennedy says ...

And the first part of NYCBusybody's post is correct. I think many of the Democrats that won are conservative and except for Santorum who was an extreme conservative in a blue state, many of the Republicans who lost were more moderate.

Once you get over the excitement of Repubicans no longer controlling all branches of goverment, you see ideologically the country is still maybe moving to the right.

That's scary.

comment #28

Alan Cerny says ...

Yeah. You're not bitter at all, pal.

comment #29

NYCBusybody says ...

The "center" of the country has moved to the Right so much in the last 12 years that Democrats celebrate and pop champagne when they elect Conservatives! That's quite an accomplishment for the Conservative movement, and something to build upon.

Hell, has anyone here actually looked at Dem. Senate nominee Harold Ford, who could have won yesterday, almost did? He supported the Federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution to ban gay marriage, something even moderate Republicans were a bit balky at. By focusing so much on Bush, and Bush-hatred, and anything-to-get-elected mindset, you guys elected some socially conservative, traditional-values kind of people. Thanks!

comment #30

jsp says ...

i don't think most of country is conservative or liberal...there probably centre-right. elections are won in the middle...the country didn't like how the war was being conducted and the GOP had scandal issues(10 seats) that's why they lost.

comment #31

jsp says ...

this elections wasn't about idelogy...it was about competence and scandal

comment #32

Dixon Steele says ...

NYCBB,

Stop being so pathetic. You can spin all you want but you deservedly got your ass kicked and so did Rumsfeld.

comment #33

Alan Cerny says ...

Personally, I'm not happy unless I dropkick a partial-birth aborted fetus while humming John Philip Sousa. So, yeah, feel free to paint with that wide brush, you piece of shit.

comment #34

NYCBusybody says ...

I wouldn't be surprised Alan, actually. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

comment #35

christian says ...

yeah, god forbid democrats (and republicans) should try to pursue any justice when it comes to 9 billion missing dollars in iraq and dick cheney's energy meetings that led directly to the electric rape of california among so many other things...

and NYC i did read the conservative blogs. mellow? they're filled with the same mis-analysis that you righties were trumpeting as the reason dems would only make small gains.

read the deluded likes of hewitt, prager, medved, etc. then go read the posts and tell me those are "mellow" responses. repubs are pissed and upset they got whipped. and they're rightfully blaming people like hannity, limbaugh, hewitt for their eternal smoke-blowing in light of actual reality. the same denial that inflicts your mind and the president.

oh well, at least we won't have rumsfeld to kick around anymore since the terrorist-symp troops and their "rumsfeld must go" editorial.

but you know best NYC.

i don't care if the dems in charge are moderate. we need a balanced govt the way our framers wanted it. only anti-americans like NYC want a blank check for bush and his war on everything.

but hey, it's still a beautiful day....

comment #36

nemo says ...

"As for Bush, I just saw his press conference and he showed why people who like (him), really like him. He took the responsibility and moved on."

Are you kidding? He spent the first half of the press conference gasping like a fish flopping on the beach. And he spent the second half whining like a petulant 9-year-old whose parents won't let him do whatever he wants.

And near the end he thanked over and over again one reporter who threw him an easy softball question. And then there was the sentence that he mangled so badly he couldn't remember where he was going with it, until he finally hauled himself out of it as if from the wreckage of a crashed car.

comment #37

sardine says ...

lovely, lovely day.

comment #38

jsp says ...

nemo grow up...

comment #39

Mike Schaefer says ...

per NYCBB: "Again, this proves that Conservatives are truly grown-ups, masculine, and the left are, and always, will be, feminized whiners"

Wow, that makes Ted Haggard a leftist! Who knew?

comment #40

jesse says ...

NYBB, as usual, I'm confused as to your actual beliefs, possibly because you'd rather "call out" liberals and go nyah-nyah-nyah than take a real position. You're gloating because the more conservative Dems got elected as a reaction against Bush -- both by voters, and by the Democratic party, who ran less traditionally liberal candidates (you know, because all of those current senators are so wildly progressive... but I digress).

I don't get it -- isn't that what you *want*? Something less partisan and more moderate? Mixed beliefs (some traditionally liberal, some traditionally conservative), rather than towing a party line?

You are, indeed, acting like someone who got what he wanted... but it seems like you're trying to have it both ways. The Dems essentially did what you thought they should've, and now you're chiding them for claiming victory. You're setting them up as both "fake" conservatives (that the voters won't tolerate if they go even an inch leftward) and genuine ones (that should taint any kind of Democrat victory vibe). I can see how that duality puts the Dems in a bind, but doesn't it put you in one, too? Unless you'd rather gloat than see anything get done in Washington.

I mean, personally, yes, I'm disappointed by a lot of these Dem candidates and by the country's creep rightward -- especially since so much of that seems fueld by exactly the kind of rightie social policies I *cannot* abide, like good ol'fashioned fear-o-gays. I can at least understand and respect the fiscal-conservative point of view; the social conservative creeps me right out.

But then, I'm not the one who crows at "both" sides (but really mostly the liberals, right?) for being so partisan and whiny and unproductive and elitist and blah blah blah. Then you gloat over Dems electing people who are for the gay-marriage ban. So do you really believe gays shouldn't be allowed to marry? I use that as an example because it's hard for me to take anyone who believes that seriously as anything but a tower of a particularly contemptible party line.

comment #41

RoyBatty says ...

Gotta love the spin from NYCBB: America belongs to the right. Yeah, when they use devisive wedge issues and false promises.

Meanwhile, poll after poll shows that the MAJORITY of Americans believe in progressive policies.

But where is the other RW bomb thrower on here, Nicol D? Should someone check on him?

Anyways, it's one helluva a day.
Santorum, Harris, Pombo, Blackwell lose BIG

It's a fantastic sunny day here in Southern California (regardless of the gov.'s race) and I'm going to take a bike ride next to the Pacific Ocean, put U2's "Beautiful Day" on and breath in that salty air that today is filled with something I haven't smelled or felt in 2 years...

...HOPE.

comment #42

Fudge Ripple says ...

If you called Jon Tester a "conservative" to his face, he'd probably beat you silly. With his BAD hand. Jon "I don't want to weaken the Patriot Act, I want to repeal it" Tester is one of yours? The organic farmer who opposed the Defense of Marriage Act? Hilarious. The truth is that Dems are sending some moderates (Tester, Webb, Casey) and some out-and-out progressives (Brown, Whitehouse, McCaskill, Klobuchar), making strides towards becoming the national party for left and center. All that's left for the GOPs is the hard right, and when ruby-red South Dakota voted down an abortion ban and ruby-red Arizona votes down a civil unions ban, you know that's a really bad place to be right now.

comment #43

T-maker says ...

A lot of this breaks down to local issues, but in general this in nothing more or less than a repudiation of the Administration. So, the pundits can be as mellow as they wish. Bush was clearly taken aback and a bit sheepish.

Message sent. Enough of your unevolved bullshit. Sit quietly until your clock runs out. Thanks for playing.

This could be a turn in the tide or a momentary hiccup. It depends on what the winners do with it. Yesterday and today are the easy part compared to that.

comment #44

christian says ...

i don't need to kick NYC when he's down. he's got his party to do that for and to him.

i will listen to "who loves the sun" over and over and especially "la arena" by morricone as a symbol of people fighting for their democracy.

the sad thing, NYC, is that today the terrorists truly lost since all over the world people have faith in american democracy.

and contrary to your prez, you can't export that at the point of a bomb.

comment #45

lawnorder says ...

What a great day! America has been pulled back from the brink of fascism. We the People have spoken. FUCK YOU, George W. Bush and your criminal cronies. FUCK YOU to the rubber stamp Republican Congress. FUCK YOU to a bullshit war, with hundreds of thousands dead and wounded -- just toy soldiers on Bush and Rummie's little war game map. FUCK YOU to your constant assault on our private lives and common decency. FUCK YOU to your anti-science, anti environment and anti humanitarian policies. We are returning to the center, where this great country belongs and in due time, we as a country, will regain the moral highground in the world. Other than Lieberman defeating Lamont and Schwarzenegger getting reelected, it's a good day to be an American. This is as important a day as any I can remember in my life. Now, on to 08. Oh, and FUCK YOU NYCbusybody.

comment #46

aspiringcrackaddict says ...

Yeah FUCK YOU NYCBUSYIDIOT!!

YEAH FUCK YOU MAN!!!

YEAH

comment #47

aspiringcrackaddict says ...

I just want to Say

America is GREAT

REALLY GREAT

Thank You

comment #48

Nicol D says ...

A few things:

The Democrats won-they fought a good campaign. Congratulations. Parties should always alternate power in a healthy democracy. Canada finally went Conservative last January, also. This is good.

The Democrats won by putting up plenty of conservative Democratic nominees. If Pelosi forces them to become liberals and vote the party line, they will be gone in two years. This will be no cake walk for the left.

Bush still has a veto. He will use it to curb the Democrats more extreme elements.

Those who are now saying they love America because of this, but hated it when Bush won should be ashamed of themselves. You should love your country no matter who is in power. Your faith in democracy should be greater than that.

Those using vulgarity should be ashamed of themselves. Use class and decorum.

If the Democrats spend the next two years digging up dirt on Bush, it will make it harder to win in 08.

You have a chance. Use it wisely.

comment #49

christian says ...

look at all these america haters coming out of the woodwork today...

comment #50

D.Z. says ...

AH: "The only reason why I am glad for these results is because now, hopefully, we will have some real checks and balances without one party controlling everything."

Um, one party still controls everything, just the lesser of two evils.

jsp: "haha...you libs make me laugh. congrats u won but come-on this happens in every two-term presidency - reagan, clinton, eienshower - what happened last night was expected and so yeah enjoy and savor it but you know democrats will screw up in no time...."

Perhaps, but there are seats Dems won, which they haven't had in decades.

"that's what pre-1968 democratic stood for - tough defence and supporting the middle class- "

So the Dems believe in rewarding influential contractors, sending high-tech jobs overseas, and
gutting funding for armor?

NYC: "Do you really think the rest of America suddenly likes San Franciso/Manhattan/Hollywood values?"

For once I agree. Otherwise, 4 more states wouldn't have voted to ban gay marriage.

"If Republicans really could, or would, do that, wouldn't they have this time?"

Actually, the election was planned so poorly than Jean Schmidt's own machine wouldn't scan, and the governor of S. Carolina had to go back home to get proper I.D.

"Again, this proves that Conservatives are truly grown-ups, masculine,"

They certainly showed it during Katrina.

"Now it's time for Dems to empower criminals like Alcee Hastings,"

Yes, why can't she be like Ken Lay ?

"By focusing so much on Bush, and Bush-hatred, and anything-to-get-elected mindset, you guys elected some socially conservative, traditional-values kind of people."

We vote with the sell-outs we have, not the progressives we'd like to have.

Fudge: "All that's left for the GOPs is the hard right, and when ruby-red South Dakota voted down an abortion ban and ruby-red Arizona votes down a civil unions ban, you know that's a really bad place to be right now."

If only the people Tennessee voted with their minds, and not their fear of blacks dating whites...

comment #51

X-Texan says ...

Howdy folks. I'm a long time reader, first time poster.

Part of me is happy that some blue guys and gals won some elections, but it won't mean much unless they do something useful with their time in office.

Man I sure wish Bill Hicks were still alive today to keep us honest. All this left/right banter reminds me of his rant, "I think the puppet on the left respresents my views. I think the puppet on the right better represents my views. Hey, wait a minute, one set of hands controls both puppets..."

So now we got some different puppets, but I'm still worried about the hands behind them.

comment #52

Alan Cerny says ...

I agree that impeachment investigations shouldn't happen. However, I do think what's going on with the money in Iraq definitely needs to be looked into, as well as the intelligence gathering that brought us to this stage. Bush may not be responsible - he may actually have been going by the intel he was given - but it was lousy intel that cost lives, at the very least, and those people deserve justice.

no one has to lose their jobs or go to jail over it, but the American people deserve to know the truth about how we got into this thing.

comment #53

D.Z. says ...

Nicol: "You should love your country no matter who is in power."

That's rich, coming from the person who complained about 60s liberalism ruining the country.

"If the Democrats spend the next two years digging up dirt on Bush, it will make it harder to win in 08."

You mean the way the Repugs used Clinton's blowjob as an excuse to win 2000?

comment #54

T-maker says ...

I loved my country before the election, too. I just wondered why it insisted on hurting itself like that.

Now that it seems to have a glimmer of spirit left in it, I can love it and feel good for it at the same time.

comment #55

D.Z. says ...

Alan: "I agree that impeachment investigations shouldn't happen."

Why? Because George didn't have sexual relations with an intern, so it's ok?

"Bush may not be responsible - he may actually have been going by the intel he was given - but it was lousy intel that cost lives,"

Lousy intel cooked up by him to justify the war.

"no one has to lose their jobs or go to jail over it,"

And I bet you think no one should have been impeached for trading weapons for hostages in Iran, too.

comment #56

T-maker says ...

"Actually, the election was planned so poorly than Jean Schmidt's own machine wouldn't scan, and the governor of S. Carolina had to go back home to get proper I.D."

I don't know much about the Schmidt story, but the SC story is actually proof of a well-run election. Even a well-known figure has to prove his identity to vote. I don't think proof of identity is a high hurdle to cross in order to vote freely.

comment #57

Alan Cerny says ...

It does the country no good to go through all that bullshit again, and itll just inflame the right.

Nicol's correct in saying that constant investigations could jeopardize the Democrats' chances later on. That said, I do think some investigation is in order, if for nothing else, how we massively dropped the ball on Iraqi WMDs.

I want the far right religious freaks out of politics, and I want the far left scorched earth angry posters too. People like NYC do no good to anyone - all they want to do is fight. If he hates America enough to want to see this fail, more power to him. However, I actually want to see it work. And I'm tired of Jesus-politics.

comment #58

D.Z. says ...

T-maker: "I don't know much about the Schmidt story, but the SC story is actually proof of a well-run election. Even a well-known figure has to prove his identity to vote."

What kind of fantasy world do you live in, where a system endorsed by a public official meant to target fraud goes against him instead, and is still considered "well-run"?

Alan: "Nicol's correct in saying that constant investigations could jeopardize the Democrats' chances later on."

You're deluded, if you think the Dems were picked, because the public didn't want an investigation.

comment #59

T-maker says ...

Good points, Alan. I'm tired of Jesus-politics and scorched-earthers, too. If Bush and members of his Administration are criminals, they'll be just as guilty after '08. The Dems don't really want to make the same mistake the Repubs did in '98 and blow a lot of political capital on a grudge-match. And that was during a time of lower national and global activity. The Dems have way too much work on their hands and too much territory to cover in a very short time to waste any energy on emotionally-fulfilling, though practically-useless measures. They've attained a slim beachead and need to press the fight, not celebrate and splurge the war chest on impeachment. They can achieve far greater good by pressing on and dismantling some of the garbage the one party system put in place.

This is a good day for the country, though. We have checks and balances again. (I even agree with Hicks' puppet metaphor, but dammit if the puppet show we've seen for the last six years hasn't outlived its entertainment value.)

comment #60

T-maker says ...

"What kind of fantasy world do you live in, where a system endorsed by a public official meant to target fraud goes against him instead, and is still considered 'well-run'?"

How exactly did it go against him? He had to show his ID just like I did, just like pretty much everyone does. (If not an ID then a voter registration card.) I actually take it as a good sign that even the big shots have to play by the same rules we all do.

comment #61

D.Z. says ...

T-maker: "The Dems don't really want to make the same mistake the Repubs did in '98 and blow a lot of political capital on a grudge-match."

Yes, holding people accountable is stupid.

"The Dems have way too much work on their hands and too much territory to cover in a very short time to waste any energy on emotionally-fulfilling, though practically-useless measures."

You mean like restoring habeas corpus?

"They can achieve far greater good by pressing on and dismantling some of the garbage the one party system put in place."

The only way to get rid of garbage is to start at its source.

From http://www.wsoctv.com/politics/10263771/detail.html :
"Poll workers at a Sullivans Island precinct turned the governor away when he didn't have his registration card and the driver's license he showed had a Columbia address."

comment #62

T-maker says ...

"You mean like restoring habeas corpus?"

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. That and much, much more. But I would actually put that at the top of my list.

"The only way to get rid of garbage is to start at its source."

Or put your lawmaking might behind correcting what has gone wrong since we don't live in the comic book world mentality your response shows you to have. A quicker way to say it is "a fish rots from the head down" as does this Administration. But a Democratic Party with a slim margin is going to be much more effective dismantling the mistakes of the last six years, utilizing alliances on the other side of the aisle (since, you see, this election didn't come about just because Democrats got out and voted but because some Republicans turned their backs on an Administration that had betrayed them), and leave Bush to fester in his own isolation. After '08 if a wider majority can be gained (which would be a lot easier to do with a load of accomplishments to point to from the previous year) and a change in the Executive Branch, then a deeper investigation into crimes and misdemeanors can commence. No one said they shouldn't be held accountable. Only that now is the time for real tangible action to correct many wrongs. But pressing impeachment proceedings when you have an even smaller majority than the Repubs did in '98 is, yes, stupid and doomed to failure. Let's fight and win some needed battles on the fronts of habeus corpus, reproductive rights, taxes, and the like and go after the big game when we have a bit more ammo in our arsenal.

And your link still doesn't point up a problem. He had to prove who he was to vote. Pretty much everyone does. What's your point?

comment #63

slothroplt says ...

People like NYCBusyBody are the reason normal people CRUSHED the Repugs last night.

Six years ago, you zealot slugs crawled out from under your rocks and started to speak in tongues, telling everyone that you had been sent from a Heavenly planet to save/take over our freedom-loving World. Normal people, who had completely forgot you existed (having steered clear of your creepy mega-churces and gun shows for years), were suddenly scared shitless and they decided that, in order to survive as a species, it would be necessary to work very, very hard to get rid of you and to never again forget the consequences of ignoring you.

Last night, was the culmination of all that work.
Normal people used their grey matter as a tool of logic and not emotion and DESTROYED the creepy alien nightmare perpetuated by your NeoCon authoritarian fascist daddies. In one fell swoop, normal people DESTROYED your last six years of effort to dismantle 220 years of Constitutional law and erect an Orwellian state with your very own Thought Police and a never-ending war against Oceania.

Just like that. It all vanished. Poof!

And last night was just the beginning because, you see, normal people get it now. They're vigilant now.

Of course, I have to assume that your interpration of events fall more on the lines of, "What did I do wrong to incur the Lord God's wrath?"

Perhaps even more piety is the answer to your problems.

See you in 2008, fool.

comment #64

X-Texan says ...

Just remember that "throw the bums out" works both ways. The blue man group (a.k.a "those damned dirty liberals" if you speak Partisan) has two years to do something before another national referendum/popularity contest occurs.

I hope the Democrats spend those two years well because the electorate is nothing if not fickle. If they spend too much time punishing the new minority they may find that the bums they threw out today are the bums they have to kiss tomorrow.

comment #65

transmogrifier says ...

I'm astonished that people here haven't realised that as soon as you attempt to approach NYCBB rationally and calmly point out his rampant hypocrisy, he refuses to reply. Instead, he will lazily target the short, sarcastic responses. I suspect this is because, intellectually, this is all he can handle, and I still wonder why people are upset by him.

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Min says ...

What the Dems are saying:

Pelosi praised "the beauty and genius of our democracy," and thanked voters for giving Democrats the chance to lead.

"Democrats pledge civility and bipartisanship in conduct of the work here," she said, calling for "partnerships … not partisanship."

What the Dems are actually thinking:

MARSELLUS: Step aside, Butch.

Butch steps aside, revealing Marsellus standing behind him, holding a pump-action shotgun. KABOOM!!!!

Zed is blasted in the groin. Down he goes, screaming in agony. Marsellus, looking down at his whimpering rapist, ejects the used shotgun shell.

BUTCH: You okay?

MARSELLUS: Naw man. I'm pretty fuckin' far from okay.

BUTCH: What now?

MARSELLUS: What now? Well let me tell you what now. I'm gonna call a couple pipe-hittin' niggers, who'll go to work on homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. (to Zed) You hear me talkin' hillbilly boy?! I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna git medieval on your ass!

(Quentin Tarantino-Pulp Fiction)

As always the brillant billmon says it best.

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christian says ...

i had to laugh.

comment #68

nemo says ...

Also from billmon:

"The president's not the kind of guy who is going to be somber about things," said press secretary Tony Snow. But he added: "They have not gone the way he would have liked."

The president watched the results in the White House residence, where Snow described the mood as "businesslike."

"The president often likes to conduct business while curled up in a fetal position on the floor," Snow explained. "It helps him concentrate."

comment #69

Titus Pullo says ...

Yeah nycbusybody, you're real mellow...9 unhinged posts in one day. Reaaaaal mellooooooow.

'Again, this proves that Conservatives are truly grown-ups, masculine, and the left are, and always, will be, feminized whiners, and lovers of terrorism.'

You sound pretty angry dude, I know how you can work it off. Just go down to the nearest army recruitment center and enlist. Then you can fight for freedom in Iraq, you know the way a 'grown-up, masculine' man like yourself would do. Oh no, wait, thats right...your just a simpering little coward. Nevermind.

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Dave Polands Gut says ...

Dont worry. The far left will show their true colors very soon and it will explode in their faces.

No far lefty got elected. The Dems who did ran as fakes. They ran as conservatives. This election only showed that you cant run as a liberal.

comment #71

christian says ...

unlike arnold who won as a moderate democrat here.

or bernie saunders, socialist.

or jim webb, writer soldier.

or nancy pelosi...etc.

of course, rush hannity o'reilly consider hillary clinton a far leftist, so who knows?

at least your little lying prez doesn't get to run roughshod over america and the world anymore.

comment #72

X-Texan says ...

Wait, wait, was I expecting a rational debate on the Internet? About politics? On a movie site? What kind of dumbass am I? Stupid naive liberal expectations. Bad expectations! Bad!

How about a much more interesting topic. Who do you think will be the first to use the Chewbacca Defense (other than NYCBB)? Some might argue that Shrub's presidency is a lasting monument to the thing.

"Weapons of Mass Destruction? Ah... Consider this, Chewbacca is from the planet Kashyyyk, but lives on the planet Endor..."

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frankbooth says ...

"If the Democrats spend the next two years digging up dirt on Bush, it will make it harder to win in 08. "

This isn't the first time you've posted along these lines, Nicol. You're really scared about this, aren't you?

What are you afraid they'll find behind the curtain? Jeff Gannon/Guckert in assless chaps, with his bare chest covered in stick-on medals, wielding a whip in the Oval Office?

After Foley and Haggard it doesn't sound so far-fetched, does it?

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Titus Pullo says ...

Its so much fun watching wingnut's heads explode isn't it.

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sardine says ...

lovely two days. the bush,chaney poolhall is finished.