An industry observer who talks to Academy members is starting to think that maybe Alan Arkin might eke out a win against the ogre Eddie Murphy. "[Arkin's] name is coming up, this and that person has told me they're voting for him. Plus he's in a Best Picture nominated film, so [Arkin's performance] is being seen by a lot of people. Plus it's not atypical for the Academy to have differences of opinion with SAG, and I'm thinking that such a difference just might be in this category [i.e., Best Supporting Actor].
"Murphy is a veteran, but Arkin is really a veteran, and the bottom line is that I just keep hearing his name...people I talk to on the phone and, like I said, I get stuff all over the map. It's just another indicator that, at the very least, tells me the Best Supporting Actor category is not wrapped up....it isn't a Helen Mirren situation. I'm not secure in predicting this absolutely, but there's a reasonable chance, based on my unscientific readings, that [the winner] might be Arkin."
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on February 19, 2007 at 4:38 PM
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corey3rd
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I'm still holding out for the Jackie Earle Haley comeback.
Has anyone noticed that the Oscars have lost their buzz because of Anna Nicole Smith and Britney's bald meltdown? The entertainment shows seem to reduce the Oscars to "and remember this Sunday...." The red carpet is going to be lined up by vultures asking the stars about "messages to a confused Britney" and asking if they're the father of Anna's baby.
Maybe the death of the giftbag has ruined the ET/Access Hollywood reporter's desires to get the inside scoop.
Posted by corey3rd
at February 19, 2007 5:09 PM
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Kristopher Tapley
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An Academy member today told me he thought Murphy would win, but he said "by the skin of his teeth." So yeah, it's close.
Posted by Kristopher Tapley
at February 19, 2007 5:16 PM
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Chris Molanphy
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No, no – Mike Myers is the orge. Murphy's the ass.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
As long as we're talking about winning odds, rather than just dumping on Murphy again: I think right here in this post – between your industry observer and corey3rd's comment – we have the case for Murphy ekeing out a win. Simply put, a split: the anti=Murphy vote will be divided between Arkin and Haley, leaving a clear field for the thousands who don't read Oscar blogs or even hate David Geffen and just like Murphy. Yes, I believe those types exist.
I liked Murphy in 'Dreamgirls,' but if I were voting, I'd pick Haley.
Posted by Chris Molanphy
at February 19, 2007 5:42 PM
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caslab
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I think it will be Wahlberg.
Posted by caslab
at February 19, 2007 5:42 PM
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bipedalist
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Wahlberg could totally upset, especially if A) Departed sweeps, B) Arkin and Murphy split it.
Posted by bipedalist
at February 19, 2007 6:17 PM
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tholl-yung
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I was thinking it could be Wahlberg too, on the strength of The Departed. Or Alan and Abigail, as a gester to LMS after passing it over on best picture. Does anyone think Abigail could take it? Are Academy members really in love with Jennifer Hudson's supportive acting?
Posted by tholl-yung
at February 19, 2007 6:22 PM
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PanTheFaun
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With every awards category there's always levels: there's "I'd really like to see them win," "I'd be okay with them winning," and "I'll be furious if they take it."
Am I the only one who feels that for this category more than any other, it's almost a sure thing I'll be furious?
In my opinion, Haley and Murphy are the only ones that even deserve to be NOMINATED, and Murphy is just such a smug asshole, I really will only be happy if Haley wins (of which the odds are next-to-none).
Alan Arkin: seems like a great guy, and is certainly due, but c'mon, his role in LMS-- which I adore-- is completely gimmicky (tee-hee, the grandpa's cursing!), required minimal effort, and personally, I think he was by far, the least of that ensemble. Carell, Kinnear, Breslin, Dano and Collette were all infinitely more impressive.
Djimon Hounsou: Probably my least favorite performance of the year. Rehashing all the "noble black man" bullshit he seems to play in every movie, and a performance that consisted of nothing but running around and screaming "My son!!!" for two and a half hours.
Mark Wahlberg: I fucking love "The Departed" and have seen it a half dozen times, but each time I watch it I can't understand what it is about this performance that's earned him awards play. Like Arkin, he's maybe the sixth-best in the ensemble, after (in order) DiCaprio, Nicholson, Farmiga, Damon, Baldwin. Yeah, he does well with the minimal material he's given, but are we really giving out Oscars now for impressively saying variations of "I fucked ya mutha"? Like I said, I like him, but there's NO depth to this performance.
*Sigh* Sorry for rambling, but is anyone with me here?
Posted by PanTheFaun
at February 19, 2007 6:24 PM
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christian
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sigh.
it's arkin. come on.
Posted by christian
at February 19, 2007 6:57 PM
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LYTrules
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Pan, there may be little depth to Wahlberg's performance, but don't underestimate the fact that he provides practically the only laughs in an otherwise brutal movie, which is a crucial ingredient.
Posted by LYTrules
at February 19, 2007 7:19 PM
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Craig Kennedy
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Pan, I'd argue the fact that Arkin managed to sell you on what you think (and I agree) is gimmicky character. The character as written is a sticking point for people who don't like the movie, but nearly everyone who liked LMS thought Arkin was a high point.
As I've said before, Murphy would've been better if **SPOILER ALERT for the 5 people who haven't seen Dreamgirls but still plan to** they hadn't killed off his character just as he was starting to show some range.
Wahlberg's character is mostly on the page, but Marky Mark brings it to life. That's worth something, isn't it? He was even better the second time around.
Off screen, Haley seems like the most likeable of the bunch. I wish I liked his movie better.
Blood Diamond is the only multiple nominee I didn't see so I have no opinion of Hounsou.
So, who's going to win? I still think it's Murphy, but I don't really know. Dreamgirls does seem kind of dead in the water and Murphy would be the most likely victim of that.
Posted by Craig Kennedy
at February 19, 2007 7:57 PM
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Chicago48
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To Panthefaun: I'm with you. it's Eddie by the skin of his teeth. and I saw Blood Diamond and scratch my head - how did it get FIVE F***** NOMS? It meandered all over the place, and you're right, Honsou was screaming all over the place (LOL). Honestly, you have to ask yourself, whose performance would I want to see AGAIN - and for me, it's Eddie. I'm not an Eddie lover, being a black woman, I can't stand to see another black man in drag, and he's done it one too many times for me. But if only he was given more meaty roles like Dreamgirls.
Yes, I saw Blood Diamond, LMS, DG, the Departed, and out of all of those I think Eddie gave the standout-breakout performance.
Posted by Chicago48
at February 19, 2007 7:57 PM
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Chris Willman
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PanTheFaun, I am with you. Completely. On every point. Except on Wahlberg deserving to be nominated, because I wouldn't mind seeing him beat that competition even if he is the sixth-best in his ensemble. If only Haley had a shot. I do think there will be a significant anyone-but-Murphy vote, and it will be split three ways, and Murphy will win.
Posted by Chris Willman
at February 19, 2007 8:00 PM
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Chicago48
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To Kennedy: About killing off Eddie...as I remember the orig. play, Jimmy didn't OD, he just disappeared after Lorrelle left him. That part of the movie bothered me, it was so cliche' - another black soul singer OD'ing and if I was Murphy or another cast member I would have argued to change the script (like Chris Tucker always does).
The first half of DG soared, it was absolutely f**** brilliant, and then it became very cliche the second half (after THE SONG), and there was less dancing and singing. It lacked dancing and singing and Broadway shows are like operas, they keep moving musically.
Posted by Chicago48
at February 19, 2007 8:03 PM
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Brigadier Pudding
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i thought baldwin and particularly sheen were far better supporting players than wahlberg. yeah, he was funny but the character was bordering on caricature and utterly devoid of any depth.
i thought the sheen-dicaprio connection was more the more convincing and powerful dynamic.
Posted by Brigadier Pudding
at February 19, 2007 8:12 PM
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tholl-yung
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Why the hell isn't Vera F. in there? Does Abigail have a chance? There's a history of putting cute little girls up on stage at the Academy Awards.
Posted by tholl-yung
at February 19, 2007 8:22 PM
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Craig Kennedy
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I think there were a lot of overlooked performances in The Departed and the biggest was Damon. Is it possible the vote was just split among all the different actors or was there less enthusiasm from the acting branch all around? If it's the latter, it's hard to imagine Departed winning best picture.
Posted by Craig Kennedy
at February 19, 2007 8:29 PM
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PanTheFaun
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For the record, I don't know if my post got across that I think Haley gave by far the best supporting male performance of the year. Does anyone think he has any shot whatsoever? *fingers crossed*
Posted by PanTheFaun
at February 19, 2007 8:59 PM
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Craig Kennedy
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Pan, I think Haley has a shot but that's only because everything seems so close this year. The only things that would surprise me about the awards is if Mirren loses and if neither Whitaker nor O'Toole win for Best Actor. Every other major category to me feels too close to call.
Posted by Craig Kennedy
at February 20, 2007 12:05 AM
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zoey
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I would hate to see Wahlberg win for having the best lines in The Departed, while Damon, a far better actor, wasn't even nominated. Switch roles... like any good Boston boy, Damon could have done Wahlberg's role with his eyes shut. Now picture Wahlberg playing Damon's role and... well you get the picture.
Posted by zoey
at February 20, 2007 5:35 AM
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rocco
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I'll say it again...playing brooding and bullying is not "acting" in the classical sense. Wahlberg's performance in 'Boogie Nights' was much more nuanced and challenging. The three most impressive parts in 'Departed'--Jack, Sheen, and Leo--didn't get noms. How hard is it too look pissed off for an entire movie?
As gimmicky as Arkin's character was, was anything more cliche than Wahlberg's bad cop? He showed us NOTHING inside that character, while Arkin at least had the "fuck a lot of women" diatribe.
Anyway...the tone of this piece is much different. No more takedown BS...this is speculation and Jeff has finally lightened on all the deathblow plunger garbage, whatever the hell that even meant.
Posted by rocco
at February 20, 2007 6:10 AM
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Josh Massey
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One of my favorite pieces of acting - if not my very favorite - comes from Wahlberg in Boogie Nights. It's that long shot that stays in a close-up, when he goes from coked-up and out of it, to slightly amused, to a little nervous, and finally to completely freaked out in under a minute.
I am rooting for him to win based on that scene of almost a decade ago.
Of course, Jackie Earle Haley would be so fun to watch as well.
Posted by Josh Massey
at February 20, 2007 6:33 AM
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Rob
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Thank you, Josh, for bringing up what I've been thinking all along: Wahlberg should win because he's owed for Boogie Nights. Damon totally stole his thunder this year.
Also, interviews of late have played up the fact that Mark improved a lot of his dialogue, which could win him some points.
Posted by Rob
at February 20, 2007 7:17 AM
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Rob
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Oops, I meant "Damon stole his thunder that year," as in 1997.
Posted by Rob
at February 20, 2007 7:18 AM
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bipedalist
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Both Leo and Matt should have been nominated.
Posted by bipedalist
at February 20, 2007 7:24 AM
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nola
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random fact: Arkin wrote the "Day-O" song made very famous by Harry Belafonte. who knew?
Posted by nola
at February 20, 2007 7:52 AM
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berg
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and Alan's father David wrote "Black and White" which was a hit for 3 Dog Night
Posted by berg
at February 20, 2007 10:31 AM
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steve
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at September 16, 2010 7:31 AM