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"Oceans 13" trailer

The just-posted trailer for Ocean's 13, rated PG-13 for "brief sensuality." And George Clooney has written directly to Radar and denied having anything to do, even indirectly, with getting those Huckabees clips circulated, and offers "a million bucks to anyone who can prove otherwise."

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on March 29, 2007 at 7:38 PM

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Mgmax Author Profile Page says ...

I just got a call from one of those tracking survey folks. (I mention it here because they mentioned Oceans 13.) It was an interesting experience. I have a feeling I'm the outlier, inasmuch as I had strong desire to see Reign O'er Me and Grindhouse, and none at all to see Shrek 2 or Pirates of the Caribbean 33-1/3... I learned that there are a lot of "stars" who I am expected to want to see in movies when in fact I have no idea (Shea LaBoof, Mekky Fifer) who the hell they are. And I learned that I no longer learn anything about movies from TV ads, TV reviews, talk shows, MTV, radio ads, newspapers, magazines, or any of the other ways I used to, but now I get it all from sites like this one. Jeffrey, you'll be glad to know that I cited H-E by name a couple of times-- entirely truthfully, the questions were about Grindhouse and The Lookout-- and made sure he took down your site as where I get a large part of my movie info. The ad dollars should start raining from the sky shortly.

Posted by Mgmax Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 7:57 PM

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Mgmax Author Profile Page says ...

Some movie stars someone named Stone Cold Steve Austin. I know there's Stone Phillips and all, but what kind of mother gives her child the first name Stone and the middle name Cold? That's just not thinking.

Posted by Mgmax Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 7:59 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

His first name is Stone and his nickname is "Cold Steve" because he used to work in an ice cream store.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 8:21 PM

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Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

I really dig the trailer. This one looks good. And I really loathe Ocean's 12. BTW, those glimpses of superimposed numbers floating above everyone's head on the casino floor--is that condsidered a Fincher trademark? I'm thinking of Fight Club of course, but there's also that great montage in Zodiac with the detectives walking through the newspaper room.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 8:34 PM

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Ford_Fletcher Author Profile Page says ...

Ocean's Twelve is better than Ocean's Eleven. It feels jazzier, looser, more soulful, and more alive (i.e. messy in this instance) than the almost oppressively clock-work "hi-jinks" of Eleven. I can't help but feel the casino location (vs. European streets and mansions) of Eleven had something to do with this, and probably why this trailer doesn't excite.

Posted by Ford_Fletcher Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 8:52 PM

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Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

Jazzy, loose, soulful. All things that Ocean's 11 had. But Ocean's 12 pushed it too far. Alive? It all felt boring and dead to me. "Let's party at Clooney's pad when we're done with this cakewalk," is what I got from it.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 8:59 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

I agree with Ford Fletcher. 11 felt forced, too constrained by the plot of the old movie. 12 was lighter on its feet, insouciant. "Let's party at Clooney's" indeed, and we were all invited.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 10:50 PM

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JD Author Profile Page says ...

I third the sentiments of Ford and jeffmcm. Ocean's Twelve may be Soderbergh's most formally accomplished work to date. The script wasn't very good, but as an exercise in big budget self indulgence, it was pretty great.

Posted by JD Author Profile Page at March 29, 2007 11:12 PM

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 2:22 AM

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Josh Massey Author Profile Page says ...

Wow, I didn't think anybody alive could think the trainwreck of Ocean's 12 was even in the same league as its predecessor.

Posted by Josh Massey Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 5:17 AM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

I don't think 12 was as good as 11 - it's a bit too convoluted and self-indulgent for that.
But it's still pretty fun silly movie that doesn't credit for its subversiveness (probably because it goes a bit off-track eventually). I mean, most of the heists don't even make sense and by the time you get the French guy using music to dance around the lasers...maybe it took the self pardoy too far?
Perhaps the big 12 thing is that people have to be divided into those who liked the Julia Roberts gag and those who thought it was the dumbest made-up-on-the-spot thing they've seen.

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 6:34 AM

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dre Author Profile Page says ...

I like the original (original Clooney one that is) a little better but Ocean's 12 is just as good a movie. Jazzier, looser, more soulful indeed. Artier too. I like what they did in that flick and they definitely didn't repeat themselves.

Posted by dre Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 6:37 AM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

I've always thought of the Ocean's movies as the Clooney-crowd's version of the Cannonball Run flicks. I.E. They are an excuse to get together with friends and goof off while the cameras are running. They're better made than the CR flicks, but just about as fluffy.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 7:35 AM

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Mgmax Author Profile Page says ...

"I've always thought of the Ocean's movies as the Clooney-crowd's version of the Cannonball Run flicks"

Or of the Rat Pack movies... oh wait...

Posted by Mgmax Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 7:53 AM

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Breedlove Author Profile Page says ...

Everyone seems to hate 'Ocean's 12.' Even the stars speak ill of it. Personally, I really like '11' and '12.' The first one was just a lot of fun, a slick well-done popcorn movie. After seeing the second one a couple of times I really started to get into it. Maybe it's just my wierd sense of humor but I think it's a really funny comedy. When the guys are hanging out and busting each other's balls they say a lot of really wierd, funny shit that feels almost improvised. I laugh my ass off when I watch that movie. Not sure why it has such a bad rep. One thing I will say about Soderbergh: he's one of the best, but my two favorite films of his are 'Out of Sight' and 'Erin Brockovitch.' I wish he would go back and do another one of those soulful, character based movies, with romance and comedy. I think those are what he does best. He seems very focused on Ocean's movies, experimental stuff and very very serious dramas.

Posted by Breedlove Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 7:54 AM

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cjKennedy Author Profile Page says ...

I understand why a lot of people didin't like Ocean's 12, but I don't quite understand the venom directed at it. People act like it was crafted by the devil with evil intent - like they were somehow taken advantage of or bamboozled in some way. You had to know going in pretty much what you were going to get, right?

The first film was tighter and more disciplined, but it wasn't much less self indulgent than the sequel and both were made in the same spirit of 'famous buddies hanging out and having fun' as the Sinatra original.

That kind of thing might not be everyone's cup of tea, but then why'd you go see it in the first place?

Posted by cjKennedy Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 10:01 AM

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Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

Look guys, I can sing Soderbergh praises all day long. 12 had style and all that shit, sure. But my god, the plot of Ocean's 12 was a complete waste of time. You all know what I'm talking about with that stupid egg switcheroo in the backpack. I really couldn't have much fun with it. But it's kind of ironic for me because I have a weakness for style over substance anyways with films.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at March 30, 2007 12:02 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

In a movie like this, plot is really beside the point. Geoff, why were you not able to have fun with it if you are typically susceptible to style over substance? Different kind of style than you usually prefer?

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at March 31, 2007 2:47 AM

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Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

I absolutely love the very beginning, when Brad comes home to his girl and ends up hopping out the bathroom window.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at April 1, 2007 5:05 PM

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