comment #1

parttimesaint says ...

Christ, you're such an intolerant twat. God forbid someone has different political beliefs than you. Can you not separate a man's political leanings from his actual work? The vast majority of conservatives have been doing it for years.

comment #2

dre says ...

I shall forever boycott The Waterboy now!!!!!

comment #3

Bart Smith says ...

I'll never be able to watch THE WATERBOY the same way...

comment #4

Hopscotch says ...

Guiliani had a cameo in "Anger Management", as a reminder.

comment #5

Roddy Reta says ...

I'm pretty apolitical. I think Jeffrey Wells is an idiot, regardless of whether he's liberal or conservative.

comment #6

Jake Gittes says ...

Let us all remember that Rudy is liberal socially.I was born and live in this city and Rudy turned it around in 2 1/2 years.Out of all the candidates - ALL- he is the only person who can say look what I've accomplished. We need a man of action. McCain will be in bed with the right wing, Clinton is a zero, Barack is a nobody, Edwards has decided he would rather spend the last few good years his wife has leftith her small children campaigning - He never finished his 6 years in the Senate. Stop with the knne jerk reactions to a candidate who could probably win as an independent. Any word on the James Mangold remake of "3:10 to Yuma"

comment #7

jeffmcm says ...

If you can't even spell Giuliani correctly you have no business complaining about who supports him.

comment #8

malibugigolo says ...

The horror!

What's next....we'll find out he eats raw meat...or maybe he personally invests in the stock market without a broker?

Ready the gallows!

comment #9

christian says ...

sandler's reflect a somewhat bullying frat point of view, so i've always assumed from HAPPY GILMORE he wouldn't be a deep political thinker. but i love HAPPY GILMORE.

comment #10

rocco says ...

Point proven...if the bleeding-heart/bigot Wells can even semi-jive with support for Giuliani, the guys a fucking shoe-in! God help the Republicans who fall on their evangelist sword and nominate McCan't.

comment #11

Matthew Lucas says ...

Lol...looks like you really riled up the conservatives again Jeffrey. ;)

comment #12

americanrat says ...

Only libs are so insecure as to obsess about things like this. It actually threatens Wells that Sandler is some variety of conservative.

There's far more diversity of thought tolerated in the Republican party than in the Dems. It's part of the reason why we will be stuck with Giuliani for president in 2008, because the libs won't be able to nominate anyone who's actually electable.

By the way, I'm a GOPer who hopes to be able to vote for Bill Richardson for president in 2008. But again - the party is too stringently liberal to nominate someone like him. They will nominate Obama and Giuliani will win.

comment #13

Arran says ...

I'm a liberal, I like Sandler, and I've known he's Republican for years. I'm a fan of Bruce Willis and James Woods too.

And?

comment #14

Hallick says ...

"Is it the least bit bothersome to anyone (except for the conservatives who read this column) that Adam Sandler is an alleged Rudy Guiliani supporter, and is otherwise regarded as a Bruce Willis-type supporter of right-of-center candidates and causes?"

Yes to the "least bit" part.

"Alleged support" is a cancer on our nation and I'm sending in Elizabeth Edwards.

Sick 'em Lizzy!

comment #15

Devin Faraci says ...

Why would anyone care about Sandler's views on anything? I don't want to get Mike Binder knocking on my front door in the middle of the night, but I'd rather have a half-witted small talent like Sandler voting for guys I don't like.

comment #16

SpinDozer says ...

'Only libs are so insecure as to obsess about things like this.'

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahastopitnow zany conservative guy, woowee you shure r fun-e, yup.

There's a gold-mine ready for the taking in neighborhood changing stations for the bootlickers who hear about a Z-level "celebrity" representing a neighborhood committee trying to stop a McDonalds or a has-been actress standing up for the rights of poor people farming in LA (didja hear, she drove up in her limo! OMG!!). Yup, a laff riot!

comment #17

scooterzz says ...

'k, i'm sure i'm opening myself to a world of hurt but.....until both/all sides stop trying to enforce fundamentalist thinking with nasty-ass/name-calling/counter-productive/neener-neener postings there's no convo here...

comment #18

kadoogan says ...

Sandler is from New Hampshire...

...yet he cheers for the Yankees.

That's a defining metaphor for his political views right there.

comment #19

NYCBusybody says ...

Giuliani's awesome, mostly because he stuck it to the Stalinists who controlled NYC. But he's far too socially liberal for me. I don't get the vibe from him that he wouldn't think twice about killing liberals, and come on, that's what we really need done.

comment #20

MovieBob says ...

Not a huge surprise, Sandler's films and other output have a pretty plain "libertarian" (aka "the sane conservatives") streak to them. And good for him.

comment #21

jeffmcm says ...

Thanks, NYCDB, for that typically full-of-hate message. You are a horrible human being.

More importantly, I really think you should consider moving somewhere else.

comment #22

thasos says ...

Isn't there a big, disgusting "Support our troops"-sign in "Anger Management"? And the movie was sent out to troops in Iraq with a special introduction by Sandler where he bascially says "You guys are great." And so is he. I wish he would step on a land mine.

comment #23

le corbeau says ...

"There's a gold-mine ready for the taking in neighborhood changing stations for the bootlickers who hear about a Z-level "celebrity" representing a neighborhood committee trying to stop a McDonalds or a has-been actress standing up for the rights of poor people farming in LA (didja hear, she drove up in her limo! OMG!!). Yup, a laff riot!"

Ten dollars to anyone who can decipher this.

comment #24

erniesouchak says ...

Sander is from Long Island, and a lot of New Yorkers became blinded to the realities of "Rude Rudy" in the wake of 9/11. Checking out the documentary "Giuliani Time" would give everyone a bit of a refresher.

comment #25

Josh Massey says ...

Thesos: So supporting the troops is disgusting?

Kadoogan: Yeah, you're right: Sandler should be a fan of that major league New Hampshire team.

And Parttimesaint is right. As a conservative (the "sane kind," according to Moviebob) and a film lover, I've become a master at disassociating actors' personal politics with their work onscreen. Otherwise, I would have been robbed of many great films and performances. (I still can't get myself to enjoy Streisand, though. Sorry.).

Oh, and I'm a member of Team Giuliani. I love his fiscal sense and his social views.

comment #26

kadoogan says ...

Josh: That major league baseball team in New Hampshire would be the Boston Red Sox.

comment #27

ltlewis3 says ...

Sandler's a Republican. Excellent!!! (Even if he is supporting Rudy.)

Still doesn't make me want to pay to see any of the crappy movies he makes, though.

comment #28

kadoogan says ...

Of course, I don't literally mean the Red Sox are in New Hampshire, just that the Red Sox is the team of the entire New England region.

comment #29

PanTheFaun says ...

Is this the least bit surprising to anyone? Sandler's movies have had the most consistent homophobic content of any actor out there these days. Every movie of his manages at least half a dozen jokes about how gross gays are, and in them (most memorably 'The Longest Yard'), someone being implicated as a homosexual is the biggest insult that can be dealt to a character.

His "thoughts" on gays should only reach their apex in his gay-marriage comedy with Kevin James opening this summer, which I believe is called "Ewwwwwwww, Boys Kissing!"

comment #30

Craig Kennedy says ...

The last 37 seconds are the most thought I've ever given to Adam Sandler's political bent. And there...I'm done.

comment #31

bipedalist says ...

This was a ridiculous post in the first place. So what if he supports Rudy G.? You won't promote his film if he isn't a bleeding heart? Jesus. The cliche is true about Hollwood I guess. Anyway, like I says, Gore is the only one who can challenge Rudy G. I think - not that I know anything.

"Isn't there a big, disgusting "Support our troops"-sign in "Anger Management"? And the movie was sent out to troops in Iraq with a special introduction by Sandler where he bascially says "You guys are great." And so is he. I wish he would step on a land mine."

They are doing their job. We need them. I don't support the war either - and I think our president is a liar and criminal (though really why blame him when clearly the country is bring run by all of his men) but I am grateful to anyone who puts their life on the line to protect me, my freedom and my country. And why shouldn't he send something nice to the soldiers? Hell, if I could there isn't anything I wouldn't send them to ease their torment. I'm thinking of starting a website where women can send their undergarments to male soldiers in harm's way. I wonder if we could get away with it?

comment #32

JD says ...

I'll never understand why so many people are willfully enslaved by the false dichotomy of right and left. While people are mindlessly debating whether Sandler's with the good guys or the bad guys, bad guys of all political stripes are wreaking havoc under the radar somewhere. And Jeff, if you want to include political content on this site, why not get into actual issues and information? Do you have to reduce everything to a horse race?

comment #33

christian says ...

mgmax, spindozer was obliquely refering to concerned celebrities, such as darryl hannah who helped a sit-in by farmers, and possibly prince charles for wanting mcdonald's out of england. these "celebrity" folk -- who were typically mocked by the pinhead tv/radio clones of bill and jeff, pete and mike, for daring to be public figures and also giving a shit. shut up and sing.

in other words, they were attacked for their politics. which americanrat claimed only liberals obssess over.

i take paypal.

comment #34

le corbeau says ...

I'll send it right over. I thought maybe it was a Dylan lyric, but it didn't have the right meter.

comment #35

Cadavra says ...

Call me crazy, but I thought one of the key tenets of liberalism is respecting other people's points of view, no matter how much we may disagree with them. (As Voltaire said...) I can't think of a lamer reason not to watch entertainers than their personal beliefs; I mean, Howard Hawks is my favorite director, and he was anti-semitic, f'Chrissake. So Sandler's conservative. BFD. Jeffrey, ya gotta lighten up on this stuff, lest you give us libs a bad name!

comment #36

rocco says ...

christian, no matter...you'e all part of the same groupthink, so you had an inside edge ;-)

and ya gotta admit...it did seem a bit influenced by outside forces either smoked or imbibed...

comment #37

SpinDozer says ...

'possibly prince charles for wanting mcdonald's out of england'

Nope, this was some guy on a teevee show, i had heard of the show, but not the actor...I tried to find something on this story and could not. J Wells posted about both stories on this site and all the right wing nutters were compelled to post their assinine rants about hollywood elites. It does not matter how minor the alleged liberal trait is or how minor the celebrity status of the star in question, the wing-nut's Resentment Switch is triggered and before you know it, soiled undies.

comment #38

Josh Massey says ...

"Call me crazy, but I thought one of the key tenets of liberalism is respecting other people's points of view, no matter how much we may disagree with them."

You obviously haven't been to a college campus recently.

comment #39

SpinDozer says ...

'"Call me crazy, but I thought one of the key tenets of liberalism is respecting other people's points of view, no matter how much we may disagree with them."

You obviously haven't been to a college campus recently.'

You are both crazy. No 'Play Nice with the Nazi's' rule exists in liberalism. Tho the average liberal is much more tolerant of diverse opinions than his right-wing, so-called conservative counterpart. College Campus hotbed of liberalism, yup. That's why the average manager in a corporation is frequently a Marxist spouting terror. Liberals dominate all the professions, public relations, Geology, & Nursing, this is why all actor's (except or Sandler & Silvers) are commies, they went to publicly funded universities and came out commies, well, elitist commies. Say gudnite

comment #40

Josh Massey says ...

"You are both crazy. No 'Play Nice with the Nazi's' rule exists in liberalism. Tho the average liberal is much more tolerant of diverse opinions than his right-wing, so-called conservative counterpart. College Campus hotbed of liberalism, yup. That's why the average manager in a corporation is frequently a Marxist spouting terror. Liberals dominate all the professions, public relations, Geology, & Nursing, this is why all actor's (except or Sandler & Silvers) are commies, they went to publicly funded universities and came out commies, well, elitist commies. Say gudnite"

Ten dollars to anyone who can decipher this.

comment #41

SpinDozer says ...

'Ten dollars to anyone who can decipher this."

They've actually dumbed them down to the point where they are willing to pay for basic english.

Let's try a little experiment, shall we?

Here is decipher:

Poop in Hand.

Put Poop in mouth.

Chew.

Swallow.

Die.

comment #42

rocco says ...

Can you say "nervous breakdown"?

Better use that ten bucks to fill Doozy's lithium prescription, seems he's all out...

comment #43

le corbeau says ...

You've added so much to my enjoyment of this site, SnipDooder.

comment #44

jeffmcm says ...

One can eat a lot of poop before it kills you. A LOT.

comment #45

SpinDozer says ...

'One can eat a lot of poop before it kills you. A LOT.'

That is no fuckin' lie man. Look at the copious amounts of crap mgmax & D-bomb have consumed AND regurgitated on this site alone; its quite impressive. Incidently, that's why I had to provide that explicit instruction, Wingnuts frequently lack the 'logical conclusion' gene, you see.

comment #46

rocco says ...

...don't forget bootlicker...time for a new repertoire, seriously ...

oh doozy, if you weren't such a troll people might not laugh at you so much...predictable and repetitive...your poor, poor lady...

comment #47

SpinDozer says ...

Non-smart-ass version (D_Bomb please continue to refer to smart-assed version above shithead and/or go molest yourself):

Simplified Marxist Social stratification model:

(In the event this does not copy go to http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004)

VOTE BY EDUCATION
BUSH KERRY NADER
No High School (4%) 49% 50% 0%

H.S. Graduate (22%) 52% 47% 0%

Some College (32%) 54% 46% 0%

College Graduate (26%) 52% 46% 1%

Postgrad Study (16%) 44% 55% 1%

During the 60's College Campuses came to be know as the scene for anti-Vietnam protests, and in the mind of those who do not think about such things, liberalism.

Imagine a classic social/class stratified pyramid: at the top, the tiny percentage of the population with the most wealth, at the bottom, the large percentage of people with the least wealth. Where in that pyramid do you imagine college grads to be? Bottom half or top half of pyramid? I cannot tell you where the total average falls for sure, but I am VERY confident that the vast majority of those on the upper half went to college and vote their economic interest in spades:

VOTE BY INCOME
BUSH KERRY NADER
Less Than $50,000 (45%) 44% 55% 0%

$50,000 or More (55%) 56% 43% 0%

The idea that the college campus is a hotbed of liberalism is, like "liberal media" and 'hollywood elites', a necessary precondition to cause people to vote against their own economic self-interest. It is a myth.

comment #48

SpinDozer says ...

Yes D-bomb, you are a bootlicker and a really gut Allemand-r.

You apparently have what ziggy would call a genital fixation, so please imagine really evil things being sed about your manhood, cos no one really cares enuff to bother typing them.

comment #49

rocco says ...

Doozy, you care way too much about what inferior bootlickers think of you...I wasn't even involved in this discussion, but I'm happy to shred your argument:

Why extrapolate, and poorly I might add? Go right to the source--

In the last election, college students polled by Harvard's Institute of Politics: 34 percent identify themselves as Democrats, 33 percent as Independents, and 29 percent as Republicans

That's 17% more students identifying themselves as D's, and by extension, liberals.

But wait, there's more...from a 2005 study:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8427-2005Mar28.html (making a link work, imagine...)

College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.

By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative, says the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking in partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed identifying themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans.

The disparity is even more pronounced at the most elite schools, where, according to the study, 87 percent of faculty are liberal and 13 percent are conservative.

Q.E.D.

Changing the world one comment at a time, huh? Get your facts straight first...go...away...troll...

comment #50

rocco says ...

just caught your second comment there doozy...obsessed much? I know they say don't feed the troll, but when one such as yourself is such a consistent source of amusement, I just can't help myself.

All right, Chief, take'em away. I'm gonna go home and sleep with my wife.

comment #51

Walter Sobchak says ...

What's that?! Adam Sandler might be slightly right-of-center Republican?
(lightling torches, assembling coon dogs)
Let's get him!!!

comment #52

SpinDozer says ...

you care way too much about what inferior bootlickers think of you...

One of your smaller mistakes, I don't give a fuck what you think of me, fascist's personal opinions are rather useless in the scheme of things.

So you 'shred' the arguement by quoting a different set of statistics (I suppose you read the Harvard Inst of Politics polls on a regular basis, you didn't say, go to a rightwing site that cherry picks information and find a link?). This is what is known as mistaking an examples for proofs. I would imagine that I could find stats which disagree with your own easily enough, point is, I just googled and came up with CNNs site. BTW, Congrats on your own stellar analytical abilities (34% Democrat, 29% Republican, equal a 17% advantage for Democrats - who'd of thunk it - outstanding work).

You did not even address the arguement, let alone 'shred it'. If the Profs at universities were all Mormon and the students graduating from these institutions were mainly Baptist, then the professor's religion would seem to be irrelevant, same logic applies for politics. Are the sr. executives at most corporations college grads or not? Are people earning 50K per year college grads or not? If the answer is yes in general, most of the 'decider's' in the US have an economic interest favoring Republicans. If this was the way elections were decided, the republicans would not win many elections. That is why they suppress the vote among the majority interest and expend huge amounts of money in floozling and bamboozling enuff of the majority with Fear (ex.terrorist attacks) and maintaining an overall atmosphere of resentment and entitlement (ex.Mexicans take jobs from Americans) to convince the moral & intellectually challenged and a fair number of the lazy...ie., bootlickers to subvert their own interest to those of the wealthy to get to 50.01% on election day.

In any event, College Campuses are in not hotbeds of liberalism. I know, I have been to college. Their schedules may permit them to attend protests easier than the rest of us, but the politically active college student is the exception rather than the rule, most of them are like Dickie Cheney, too busy getting their business degrees to get their heads smashed by police Madison WI '67 (it's not obscure, save yourself 10 bucks, look it up).

So, on this supposedly liberal blog, the liberal (that'd be me) is the troll, and the reactionary right winger (that'd be you D-Bomb) is the 'normal' poster? That theory is similar in quality to most of your 'thought', thanks for your contributions.

comment #53

le corbeau says ...

I suspect that people who obsess about education levels are mainly demonstrating the insecurity of their side-- in any case they always avoid the inconvenient truth that dummy Bush had better grades than his fellow preppies-of-destiny Gore and Kerry-- but in any case there's a basic correlation-is-not-causality mistake in such comparisons.

SpentDoobie assumes that better educated people vote Democratic because they see smarter arguments on that side. (Arguments unspecified.) But the Democrats are strongly identified with major urban areas-- indeed, inner cities are often one-party Democratic fiefdoms. Urban areas also have a concentration of knowledge-industry jobs which require higher education-- lawyers, finance, media, etc. etc. So all this really demonstrates is that people with higher education are disproportionately attracted to big cities, and the Dems are the party of big cities. Even when they sympathize with certain goals they may not fully identify with that party-- ask my yuppie neighbors about gay marriage and they will ID Dem (especially all the lesbians with adopted babies), ask them about the Democratic party commitment to prevent school choice and they'll suddenly get a lot quieter. In any case, if you think it's as simple as Republican=dumb Democrat=smart, well, you need to go back to school-- for more statistics courses.

comment #54

rocco says ...

Let us say you have a sample size of 100...34% would equal, you got it, 34 people....29%, again, yes, say it out loud, would equal 29 people...34 is SEVENTEEN PERCENT more than 29.

What is that, 7th grade math? Maybe 6th?

I'm not just dealing with a passionate troll, I'm dealing with a passionate imbecile...oh doozy, your predictably abrasive, slanted style belongs somewhere where a great mind such as your's can really be challenged...

comment #55

SpinDozer says ...

'if you think it's as simple as Republican=dumb Democrat=smart, well, you need to go back to school-- for more statistics courses.'

Go back and read again mgmax. Colleges produce conservatives. No one said anything about colleges producing dumb people. The advantage Republican's enjoy from graduating more conservatives than liberals is not enough to win them elections, so they have to motivate enough people to vote against their own economic interests to win, they do this in a variety of ways, some of this is with quite legitimate policy differences, but in general, by creating a culture of resentment which is only as sucessful as the target is willing to allow this to happen (one of the possible explanations is 'dumbness').

D-Bomb, in the context of this arguement, 34% vs 29% equals a 5% difference. Find another detail to quibble over, do not address the arguement, cos you'll just look stupid. I'll say this for you, you are committed to being servile.

comment #56

rocco says ...

I don't need to address the argument because my first comment was good enough...

...and it's simple mathematics...that your great mind can't comprehend doesn't make it less true...relative to R's, there were 17% more self-identified D's...

...at least in the past you put forward compelling, if not skewed, arguments...now you're convincing me not to even waste my time with someone who can't understand such elementary statistics...there's no way to spin it, sorry trollboy...

...it's a nice day, I'm going out to enjoy life...have fun stewing and googling all day...

comment #57

christian says ...

"You obviously haven't been to a college campus recently."

go check out berkeley and you can sit in on john yoo instructing students how to get away with torture for future presidents. visit the engineering labs where they train future nuclear weapons makers. meanwhile the hippies are in the english department.

comment #58

SpinDozer says ...

'I don't need to address the argument because my first comment was good enough.'

For an inattentive 9 year old, maybe, you didn't make an arguement, you cited some stats from studies you found on a right wing web site to contradict the examples I cited. As I told you earlier, this does not address the arguement.

'...and it's simple mathematics.'

And simple mathmatics in the hands of a liar can be used to distort the obvious, first you cite a study which minimalizes college Republicans by including Independents, then you use differential analysis to further support a stupid statement.

'...now you're convincing me not to even waste my time with someone who can't understand such elementary statistics...there's no way to spin it, sorry trollboy...'

By all means, quit wasting your time, but don't be dumb enough to think its because I can't understand elementary statistics, do it because you cannot make a valid arguement. Enjoy your Toadie afternoon.

comment #59

le corbeau says ...

And you enjoy your afternoon in the land of pink ponies!

Mind moves faster than mouth-- wisdom. Mouth moves faster than mind-- SpinDozer.

comment #60

SpinDozer says ...

"And you enjoy your afternoon in the land of pink ponies!

Mind moves faster than mouth-- wisdom. Mouth moves faster than mind-- SpinDozer."

Oh My God, I had heard the legends, but nothing, nothing I say, could have prepared me for the awesome onslaught of WingNut wit.

I am so completely overcome by your vastly superior intellect I will not post again...unless of course, you think of an actual arguement which might convince someone you have something intelligent to say on the matter; no one is gonna hold their breath, so don't feel bad if you can't think of anything.