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Diminished Capacity
Gonzo: The Life and Work of Hunter S. Thompson
We are Together
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Eight Miles High
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired
July 18
A Very British Gangster
Before I Forget
Felon
Lou Reed's Berlin
Transsiberian
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Go the the N.Y. Post site and Reed Tucker's laundry-list piece about summer threequels -- neutral attitude, no opinion of any kind, and focusing almost entirely on the horse-race aspect (which will make the most money?) and ignoring the certainty that the only tolerable ones will be The Bourne Ultimatum and Ocean's Thirteen.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on April 29, 2007 at 12:06 PM
comment #1
says ...Actually, I think "Ocean's Thirteen" will probably be the most intolerable of the lot.
Posted by John Y
at April 29, 2007 12:55 PM
Posted by vansmith
at April 29, 2007 01:02 PM
comment #3
says ...I'm sure "Ocean's" will be the most placid of the bunch. It won't give you a pulsing headache like "Pirates" might or grate on your nerves like "Shrek" is likely to do. It'll just put you in a nice nap-like trance where thought and feeling are unnecessary. Damn, I wish Soderbergh would get around to being relevant again.
Posted by Undercover Brother
at April 29, 2007 04:46 PM
comment #4
says ...John Y and Undercover Brother got it right. Jeff, "Ocean's Thirteen" cannot be good - the FIRST one was pointless!!!! I am shocked that you actually think that.
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Posted by Ray
at April 29, 2007 08:54 PM
Posted by Edward
at April 30, 2007 09:07 AM
Posted by Jean
at April 30, 2007 10:02 AM
Posted by jeffmcm
at April 30, 2007 11:06 AM
comment #8
says ...If Soderbergh made nothing but Ocean's type films, I could understand the complaints, but he doesn't. He has consistently made big budget movies as well as low budget independent project. Like them or not, he does more as a filmmaker than almost anyone out there.
I can think of a million reasons why he would make another Ocean's film. First, because it's probably a lot of fun. Who wouldn't want the chance to direct even one or two of those actors? Pacino, Clooney, Pitt, Damon etc.. plus the huge paycheck, come on.
Secondly, Soderbergh is also an extremely talented cinematographer. Say what you will about the Ocean's films, but they are all consistently gorgeous and consistently artful. Maybe he's just indulging his passion for the visuals, who knows.
I just don't see how you can complain about a director with his work ethic and passion for filmmaking. Check his IMDB page, look at the lineup of projects he's producing, then maybe notice that he's making not one but two films about Che Guevara, not to mention a documentary about Spalding Gray.
Criticism is fine, it goes with the territory, but to call him irrelevant is just plain ignorant.
Posted by Monument
at April 30, 2007 12:05 PM
comment #9
says ...I bought the party line that Clooney et al. were putting out for a while, i.e, "we know we slumped up making 'Ocean's 12', but this time we're back on the ball". But the trailers and the ads make "Ocean's 13" look like so much of the same old cheese.
I think the essential flaw in this series is that there's no actual danger in them whatsoever to balance out the "antics". Your caper won't have suspense, even in a fluffy little popcorn movie, without something menacing threating to fuck it all up and maybe get people killed for real. Even "Sneakers" had just enough gravitas in that sense to hold a center together.
And the most ironic thing about the problem is that Clooney and Soderburgh already got this formula right before - with "Out of Sight". Now THAT'S the vibe all of these Ocean's films should have sunk their teeth into.
Posted by Hallick
at April 30, 2007 12:27 PM
Posted by Nick Rogers
at April 30, 2007 05:13 PM
comment #11
says ...The Oceans movies are trifles, but so what? They're harmless and some people find them fun. At least they don't cost $350 million dollars and I don't have Danny Ocean Happy Meals crammed down my throat. When all you make are trifles (coughcoughMichaelBaycough) it's ok to keep making them but it's not OK for Soderbergh?
Hallick has a point about why some don't dig them, but where's the danger in some CGI Hasbro toys blowing shit up?
Posted by cjKennedy
at April 30, 2007 08:32 PM
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