comment #1

Craptastic says ...

Where's the review of the new cut of "Death Proof"?

comment #2

christian says ...

since qt added about seven more hours of the bland melrose grrls talking about sex and VANISHING POINT, jeff's probably halfway through it at this point.

comment #3

Dixon Steele says ...

The only thing I didn't like about Death Proof was the endlessly blabbering on of the girls. That, and having to watch Eli Roth smirk his way through his performance.

Loved the finale though....Gotta say, I thought Zoe Bell was HOT...

comment #4

jeffmcm says ...

I loved Death Proof and all the chatter. But Eli Roth is a pretty annoying actor - I assume he was cast in that part because his character is a pretty horrible person as well.

comment #5

christian says ...

but qt cut out the scene where russell runs him over. i hope.

comment #6

D.Z. says ...

Interesting comment from http://trent.blogspot.com/2007/05/write-stuff.html"]"Pink is the new blog" via Dark Horizons and Eric Idle regarding Shrek 3's Monty Python scenes, but which could easily apply to QT:

MIX FM: "Don't you think they did that to pay homage to you?" Eric: "Do you think if I stole your wallet that'd be homage to your money? -- you see they neglected to tell us -- so the first I saw it was in the premiere -- and I was SHOCKED -- my whole family went WHAT! How dare you! So I walked out -- calmed down -- and walked back in -- but I was shocked and I think if you steal peoples jokes, I don't think that's homage, I think that's theft.

comment #7

D.Z. says ...

Lemme fix the link. http://trent.blogspot.com/2007/05/write-stuff.html

comment #8

le corbeau says ...

"The only thing I didn't like about Death Proof was the endlessly blabbering on of the girls."

So the only thing you didn't like was 2/3 of the movie? Same here.

A 30 minute Death Proof, with no scene not involving Kurt Russell, would be my preference.

comment #9

jeffmcm says ...

DZ, you obviously don't understand either the meaning of 'homage' or a significant bulk of how literature or art work.

comment #10

D.Z. says ...

jeff: Then by that logic, neither does Eric Idle.

comment #11

jeffmcm says ...

What an amusing quip. Do you really think that or is it just for comedy value?

comment #12

jeffmcm says ...

I haven't seen Shrek 3, but if the extent of the movie's 'theft' is copying the coconuts joke from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, then yes, Eric Idle doesn't understand the meaning of homage. You can't copyright a joke. Dreamworks should have had the good business sense to clear the joke with the Pythons, but they probably aren't legally liable for anything.

Thanks for wasting my time, DZ.

comment #13

christian says ...

"A 30 minute Death Proof, with no scene not involving Kurt Russell, would be my preference."

on that we agree. it's hard to believe any of his scenes would be cut in favor of more jungle julia or eli roth.

i'm curious as to the foreign reaction to the film shorn of its GRINDHOUSE bookend. i could imagine those wacky french claiming its qt's best film...but hey, kurt russell in cannes!

comment #14

D.Z. says ...

jeff: "You can't copyright a joke."

You can copyright a scene from a movie which uses the joke.

comment #15

christian says ...

as per eric idle, he should be a little more lenient. look at the source. they have so little genuine wit to work with, what with all that pop culture referencing in lieu of actual humor.

comment #16

Jayne Gacey says ...

DZ, there is a difference between borrowing technique and imagery and stealing a joke. Also, even with the step-back that much of Death Proof represents, Tarantino has become a better and more assured director than Godard. There, I said it.

This constant "theft theft theft" harangue has got to stop. Tarantino has been very upfront about City on Fire being an inspiration for Resevoir Dogs. And yeah, he probably got the names from The Taking of Pelham 1,2,3. If Mr.Orange and all of them were hijacking a train, you might have a point. You truly seem to have no grasp or appreciation for popular culture and media. It's become a tired refrain on this site in recent days, but why the hell do you insist on posting here? You are the Zack Mayo of Hollywood Elsewhere. You've got no place else to go.

comment #17

D.Z. says ...

Jayne: "DZ, there is a difference between borrowing technique and imagery and stealing a joke."

And Quentin's stolen Roger's jokes.

"Also, even with the step-back that much of Death Proof represents, Tarantino has become a better and more assured director than Godard."

Yes, dumbed-down violence for teen girls certainly demonstrates strength.

"Tarantino has been very upfront about City on Fire being an inspiration for Resevoir Dogs."

No he hasn't, or I wouldn't be complaining about it. People claim that he has, but they can't find any quote verifying that claim.

comment #18

le corbeau says ...

I've seen City on Fire, and I don't think Reservoir Dogs is stolen from it. It's inspired by it, sort of the way Scorsese's The Age of Innocence is inspired by The Magnificent Ambersons.

comment #19

D.Z. says ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScR6_l2-Fmk

comment #20

christian says ...

yes, i've always loved the original "i don't tip" speech from CITY ON FIRE. and that fake flashback monologue was better in COF along with a much more powerful 70's soundtrack...

comment #21

CitizenKanedforChewingGum says ...

^LOL, christian.

D.Z. (typing while masturbating furiously): "Silly bloggers, everyone know Ringo Lam INVENTED bank robbery (insert random youtube link that proves absolutely nothing)."

Why DO you post here, Daniel? That is the million dollar question, dude.

comment #22

jeffmcm says ...

Oh, god, here we go again.

DZ, NOBODY cares about your stupid Youtube video. It is utterly meaningless. As I said before, Ringo Lam has never said that he gives a shit if Tarantino stole anything from him, and Tarantino has never _not_ said that he didn't borrow from City on Fire. This is a huge non-issue that you use to distract from some mysterious other reason that you have for not liking him or his films that you've never copped to.

I'm gonna have to go back to calling you a liar again because that's what you are.

comment #23

le corbeau says ...

John Ford stole the ending of Stagecoach from Griffith's The Battle at Elderbush Gulch.

comment #24

jeffmcm says ...

I'm sure that DZ's response would be to say that John Ford was an overrated, racist, conservative hack director.
Seriously, I think he would say this.

comment #25

D.Z. says ...

christian: "yes, i've always loved the original "i don't tip" speech from CITY ON FIRE."

That probably belonged to Roger.

"and that fake flashback monologue was better in COF"

Wasn't that from Pelham?

"with a much more powerful 70's soundtrack..."

What soundtrack? It's the same song played twice! If some college kid did that, it'd be considered amateurish. Plus QT's an ass for swiping that Madsen dance scene from I, Vitelloni.

jeff: "Ringo Lam has never said that he gives a shit if Tarantino stole anything from him,"

Probably because he no longer owns his own film, since QT bought it out from under him.

"and Tarantino has never _not_ said that he didn't borrow from City on Fire."

He just has never said that he did, either.

comment #26

christian says ...

"Wasn't that from Pelham?"

no dz that was not from PELHAM.

it remains for me the most audacious and original scene in the qt canon. and it belongs to him.

comment #27

D.Z. says ...

christian: " and it belongs to him."

I doubt it. The only thing which belongs to him is his potty mouth.

comment #28

christian says ...

potty mouth?

you mean qt actually invented the phrase "motherfucker"?

comment #29

D.Z. says ...

christian: No, but he's borrowing it like everything else.

comment #30

Dave Polands Gut says ...

Jeff you should ban all these characters like DZ and jeffmcm who ruin a pretty good comments board.

comment #31

PepeLecaca says ...

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Payment the usual way Dave, sweetie.