comment #1

christian says ...

chris klein was terrific in ELECTION.

comment #2

George Prager says ...

That's like saying "the bears in GRIZZLY MAN were excellent."

Put Topher Grace right up there at the top.

comment #3

BurmaShave says ...

90% of that list is shit, but I take exception with AMERICAN PIE and SAVING SILVERMAN. AMERICAN PIE was, for better or worse, a resonant late century film that really captured a place in the public consciousness. More than anyone else it was a breakthrough for Eugene Levy (which he has since squandered.)

SAVING SILVERMAN is objectively a bad film, but I've always had a soft-spot in my heart for it. It features good work from two of the great Indie supporting actors of that time, Zahn and Black, and one of Biggs' better lead roles other than ANYTHING ELSE. Plus I love Neil Diamond. I would put it in the category of a righteous failure with FREDDIE GOT FINGERED.

I'll answer your bruisin' cruisin' question and say Dane Cook and Jessica Alba- oh good, they're in a movie together! And obviously I try to stay away from anything with Andrew Dice Clay in it. THE ADVENTURES OF FORD FAIRLANE really broke my heart.

comment #4

adaml says ...

I really hate Sean William Scott. Nearly as much as that guy who nearly ruined Scream - the one who thought he was Jim Carrey. Think he's done some Scooby Doo movies since.

comment #5

gruver1 says ...

Wells to Christian: Indeed -- Chris Klein was very good in "Election." I loved himin that film. The problem was that Alexander Payne's movie was Klein's ONLY high-quality excursion, and the rest were so tepid that he eventually drowned in the quicksand.

comment #6

christian says ...

didn't jeff rave about FREDDY GOT FINGERED?

"THE ADVENTURES OF FORD FAIRLANE really broke my heart."

you must have a very weak heart;]

comment #7

Josh Massey says ...

Seann William Scott still has a strong career, with a few high-profile releases due later this year. And Amanda Peet is an amazing talent, and though "Studio 60" was cancelled, will be on big screens later this year as well. I'm still irritated her note-perfect one-scene performance in Changing Lanes wasn't more widely noticed.

comment #8

George Prager says ...

Wow, I was watching some of Saving Silverman and it really was Plan 9 From Outer Space bad. Yes, Dan Cook is awful, Jessica Alba is hot.
And I think Andrew Dice Clay is an older gentleman, isn't he?

Two more:
Jessica Simpson
Jennifer Hudson

comment #9

gruver1 says ...

Yes, I raved about FREDDY GOT FINGERED. As I recall, it was the script that really got me going. The movie realized about 80% or 85% of the script's potential, and I liked it because of this. I don't know what happened to Tom Green. I liked him, his TV show, his attitude...everything.

comment #10

Rob says ...

I have to agree that of all the American Pie kids, Seann William Scott has ended up with the strongest career somehow.

At the time, my money was on Natasha Lyonne and, uh, look what happened.

comment #11

BurmaShave says ...

christian, george prager, are you physically incapable of understanding sarcasm?

comment #12

George Prager says ...

There's too much sarcasm on this board. That said, I'm so over Gary Busey.

comment #13

bostonlackey says ...

Wow, no one has mentioned Scarlett Johannsson. She is the queen of soon-to-be-forgotten, Jeff, in answer to your question. For me, others include:

• Topher Grace (you can see the gears turning)
  
• Shia Lebouf (the Coreys were once in demand, too)
  
• Jason Schwartzman (he'll always have Rushmore but seriously, since then?)
  
• Maggie Gyllenhaal (why on earth people keep defending this shrill, one-note "actress" is beyond me)
  
• Tobey Maguire (now that Spidey is over, has anyone actually seen The Good German - this guy is DOA the second he walks onscreen)
  

comment #14

Jay T. says ...

I agree that you must give Amanda Peet her due for her short but brilliant performance in Changing Lanes. If I recall, Jeff, you had a very strong reaction to it as well.

As for Mena Suvari, she doesn't bug me, and at least she was in American Beauty.

Also, while his film career isn't on fire, I'd say that generally speaking Jason Biggs is respected for some of his Broadway work.

comment #15

christian says ...

burma, did you notice the little wink smile at the end of my sentence? that means I'M JOKING.

comment #16

George Prager says ...

Amanda Peet was also the only good thing in Igby Goes Down. She's made a lot of crappy movies though. It really is astounding.

comment #17

BurmaShave says ...

Topher Grace is impressive in low-key pleasant stuff like WIN A DATE WITH TAD HAMILTON and especially IN GOOD COMPANY. Plus I actually found myself missing his cameo in OCEAN'S THIRTEEN

"Shia Lebouf (the Coreys were once in demand, too)"
Can't really disagree here, though your statement raises the horrifying prospect of a second Shia.

"Jason Schwartzman (he'll always have Rushmore but seriously, since then?)" I HEART HUCKABEE'S, MARIE ANTOINETTE (I know I'm asking for trouble). Plus, he is close to and well liked by some of the great talents currently working.

"Maggie Gyllenhaal (why on earth people keep defending this shrill, one-note "actress" is beyond me" SECRETARY, HAPPY ENDINGS, SHERRYBABY. Hot as fuck.

"Tobey Maguire (now that Spidey is over, has anyone actually seen The Good German - this guy is DOA the second he walks onscreen)" If he has vocal talent, he might have Mark Hammil's career, otherwise he's fucked.

comment #18

Bocephus says ...

I know I've seen Saving Silverman, but I can't remember a second of it. If it was bad, at least it was mercifully forgettable.

comment #19

BurmaShave says ...

Sorry christian on my screen it looked like an accidental semi-colon. George is still a douche for not liking IGY GOES DOWN.

comment #20

George Prager says ...

If that's the only thing I'm known as being a douche for, then I'll take it.

comment #21

travis b says ...

what about hayden christensen? he was alright in shattered glass, but everything else he's been in has been fairly excruciating.

comment #22

bostonlackey says ...

Burma, to each his own, obviously, but Maggie G is hot? Eesh. Not to sound totally shallow but like most red-blooded American males, I tend to give actresses a pass if they're easy on the eyes (for instance, I don't think anyone here believes Jessica Alba will ever make people forget about Katherine Hepburn but I'm not going to complain about watching her). But Maggie G?

Schwartzman is liked because he is the son of long-time Hollywood people. And being liked and being cast in something other than your friend's movies are two entirely different indicators of talent and appeal.

comment #23

BurmaShave says ...

What did happen to Monica Potter? She was clearly engineered in a lab to be the next Julia Roberts. I guess Julia had to zag and become a pasty fug decent actress.

comment #24

BurmaShave says ...

Boston, I didn't say she was pretty, I said she was hot. Sexy would be a better word I guess. Her brother is the pretty one.

comment #25

Mark says ...

Everyone in Idiocracy and The Girl Next Door (sans Dano depending on TWBB)

comment #26

MathewM says ...

I thought Maggie G was appropriately sexy in Secretary but not so much in Stranger Than Fiction. Woody Allen worked wonders with Scarlett in Match Point who I never found all that sexy up until that point. Really it's the role and the director that bring out the appeal in an actress. For example while Jessica Biel should be sexy as hell instead she looks like a piece of cardboard in Fantastic Four.

comment #27

frankbooth says ...

Speaking of American Beauty, what happened to Thora Birch? Was Dungeons and Dragons a lethal blow?

I saw Monica Potter in one of those dumb Morgan Freeman thrillers on cable. Two things struck me about her: she looked just like Roberts, and she was completely flat and unconvincing. She was like a body-snatchers version of Roberts.

Oooh, I got another one! Can we add Jennifer Garner to the list?

comment #28

JeffGP says ...

Freddy Got Fingered is brilliant. And, what happened to Tom Green, you ask? He has an actually very funny live interview internet TV show every night. You can call in, he really spends time with his guests and gets good stuff out of them (a full hour!). His Val Kilmer interview is excellent. It gets a bit chaotic with the phone calls, but that's what makes it great.

comment #29

BurmaShave says ...

Jennifer Garner is adorable.

comment #30

Mark says ...

Garner's presence in The Kingdom definitely doesn't lessen enthusiam for it.

comment #31

TJ Smoov says ...

I'd like to add Breckin Meyer and Anna Faris to that list.

comment #32

le corbeau says ...

Every age produces bland, pretty young people who soon disappear because there's nothing memorable about them. You have to find something really strong about your persona and work it hard to escape that. Robert Redford could easily have been James Franciscus if he hadn't figured out how to turn limited ability into a movie-level stillness that seemed magnetic-- and if he hadn't gotten lucky as Newman's straight man. Watch Jimmy Stewart in a movie like Of Human Hearts (1938) to see a legend about two movies away from being over before he started.

comment #33

George Prager says ...

james franciscus was terrific in BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES.

comment #34

ArchiveGuy says ...

Personal confession: There are virtually no actors who I like so much that I'll see absolutely anything they're in. Amy Smart is one of the rare exceptions. :sigh:

comment #35

le corbeau says ...

Also, age gives many of these folks a second chance. Kiefer Sutherland needed some world-weariness and lines around his eyes to become a completely compelling action hero-- watch him trying to fake it at age 23 in Renegades and it's like a high school play. One or two of the people mentioned here will surprise us and come back, ten years down the line.

comment #36

LYTrules says ...

that guy who nearly ruined Scream - the one who thought he was Jim Carrey.

Jamie Kennedy. Yes, agreed 100% - his goofy white rapper shtick got stale very quick, especially since Andy Samberg does it better.

Kal Penn had potential, but he's quickly blowing it. Doing that indie movie earlier this year was a smart move.

Ashton Kutcher was decent in The Butterfly Effect, but he's in danger of getting stale otherwise.

I'm actually a fan of American Wedding, but not so much the others in the series.

comment #37

nemo says ...

Paul Walker is blandness personified, the modern Tab Hunter. And yet somehow his career is not doing too badly.

Seann William Scott -- how can someone be a movie star when his head looks like a shriveled walnut? In some pictures he looks like he forgot to put in his dentures.

"Speaking of American Beauty, what happened to Thora Birch?"

"Ghost World" came out only 6 years ago, and watching it I never would have predicted that Thora Birch would disappear, while Scarlett Johansson would become It Girl of the decade.

comment #38

Craig Kennedy says ...

"Did anyone actually see The Good German?" Yes and you're all wrong for hating it. Sorry that's off the intended topic.

I never liked American Pie and I pretty much agree with Jeff's estimation of the listed actors, though I wouldn't go so far as to avoid a movie just because their name was on the poster...well except for Jason Biggs.

comment #39

murdocdv says ...

This is too easy: Lindsay Lohan.

comment #40

Movie fan09 says ...

Jason Schwartzman (he'll always have Rushmore but seriously, since then?)

aside from his burgeoning music career, nothing.
maybe that's where he should focus...his two singles are amazing.

comment #41

nemo says ...

Anybody who appeared in Dawson's Creek is over, except for Michelle Williams.

Katie Holmes did Batman, married Tom Cruise, and took up Scientology -- over.

Michelle Williams did Brokeback Mountain, married Heath Ledger, and is currently making a Charlie Kaufman film with Philip Seymour Hoffman, Emily Watson, and Samantha Morton -- beginning of a brilliant career.

Van Der Beek is making a film with C. Thomas Howell -- it doesn't get any more over than that.

I've never seen Ashton Kutcher on film -- that patented dumb-guy look of his is enough to put me off for life.

Seeing Seth Rogen practicing his version of the dumb-guy look over and over put me off Knocked Up, but so many smart people claim he's got what it takes, I may have to grit my teeth and rent the DVD. But for his next few films, he's got to drop that dumb-guy look.

comment #42

Craig Kennedy says ...

All Van Der Beek has to do is shave that enormous melon of his and sell the space for advertisements. He'll be back in black in no time.

comment #43

TheLongshot says ...

I don't know what this is a big thing. I mean, let's look at the Brat Pack from the 80s. Demi Moore probably became the biggest name out of them, but it took her a while. Emilio Estevez has had a solid career. But, Rob Lowe still gets work by making fun of himself ever since the sex tape scandal. Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald and Ally Sheedy work infrequently. And where is Anthony Michael Hall and Andrew McCarthy nowadays?

To be honest, good roles for very young actors are hard to find. Often, you get stuck with dreck, either bad action films or forgettable sex comedies.

comment #44

Eddie says ...

I don't know if he's over, but man I hate Ryan Reynolds. He's the dislikable Jason Lee. Whenever I see his name on a poster my immediate thought is "Next!"

comment #45

otakuhouse says ...

Hate to burst your bubble, but Shia Labeouf or what have you is about to become a huge star. I haven't seen any movies with him. I just know that Disturbia opened at number one, Transformers is going to make bank, and the way people who are not cineastes talk about him means the guy is going to be huge. Ashton Kutcher seems to have faded big time.

Seann William Scott i hear perpetually is a great guy with a decent attitude. That doesn't mean he's necessarily a good actor, but I'd rather root for him than some of those others on the list.

And poor Amy Smart. She deserves better, really does have some decent charisma. She needs a new agent and needs to stop showing up in tripe.

Mary Elizabeth Winstead - who I have met - I have high hopes for. She's another down to earth person with smarts and manners.

Jason Schwartzmann will always have a cult following and to me he has done interesting work. He was the only thing I could tolerate in Shopgirl when I wasn't getting creeped out by Steve Martin. And he helped Marie Antoinette if you ask me.

The rest of them, however, not so sad to see them go nor did I ever expect much from.

I really wish Dane Cook would dissapear.

comment #46

Rob says ...

I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is incredibly sexy, but then I'm gay, and she looks a lot like her brother.

comment #47

bmcintire says ...

When they first appeared on the radar, I had a hard time discerning Chris Klein from Josh Hartnett. Now I realize it's because they are both so very bland in their own special ways. Ashton Kutcher and Ryan Reynolds appears to be from the same fratboy mold, but Reynolds does at least have a sense of non-assholish charisma about him. The two Jasons - Schwartzman and Biggs - are plenty enough to keep me away from a film. Mandy Moore saved herself from completely vaporizing with the clever one-two punch of SAVED and AMERICAN DREAMZ. That and apologizing for her terrible pop records.

comment #48

bostonlackey says ...

Eddie -

Agree on Dane Cook. God. Nauseating.

But let's not crown Shia yet. I mentioned the Coreys because they were in a number of serviceable films and hits (Silver Bullet, Lucas, The Lost Boys, Stand By Me, The 'burbs) before flaming out. I just looked up fucking License to Drive and even that was a moderate hit ($22 mil, which would be about $40m in today's dollars - considering it probably cost 5 cents to make, pretty good).

Was Disturbia a hit because of Shia or because it was an solid tweener thriller sold effectively with good word of mouth? Transformers? Yes, huge, gigantic. But in both cases, the films would be hits with any other disposable fresh face in the lead.

How this kid suddenly got anointed as The Next Big Thing has more to do with Sir Steven's benediction than a hue and cry for more Shia LeBouf. You can't force talent or appeal.

comment #49

bostonlackey says ...

Sorry, not Eddie, but otakuhouse.

comment #50

Cadavra says ...

In addition to STUDIO 60, Peet earned excellent reviews for her terrific work in the revival of BAREFOOT IN THE PARK last year on Broadway. Don't scoff: the role requires her to be onstage for all but one scene, and it's a very physical one as well.

Thora Birch remains busy, but she's mostly doing indie art films (including at least one she produced herself) that hsven't been picked up yet.

Garner is the poster girl for unsexy, untalented actresses who manage to keep working even though they don't draw flies. Alba is a close second.

comment #51

George Prager says ...

Anyone who doesn't think Alba and Garner are hot is not heterosexual.

comment #52

MoroccoMole says ...

I maintain that JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS is a brilliant and underrated satire that will eventually amass a cult. That said, I'm not at the edge of my seat waiting for the next Rachel Leigh Cook vehicle.

And Anna Faris, no matter how crappy the movie might be, is always genius.

comment #53

jeffmcm says ...

I don't think Garner is hot.

comment #54

Eddie says ...

Sorry, not Eddie, but otakuhouse.

Looks like I'm fading too.

comment #55

Mark says ...

Garner looks semi retarded in print, and like a drag queen on screen. In person, i'd say around a 7. Cute, not hot.

comment #56

Mcflyboy says ...

I like Ryan Reynolds. I kind of wrote him off after Van Wilder but I ended up watching Just Friends on DVD one night and I was very impressed. He has that early Bill Murray kind of asshole-charm and a terrific sense of comic timing. if what I hear about The Nines is true, it seems that he's a decent dramactic actor as well.

From the original list, Seann William Scott is the only one who gets a pass from me. His chemistry with The Rock in The Rundown showed potential but pair him with a void like Johnny Knoxville and see what happens?

comment #57

Joe Leydon says ...

Longshot: Anthony Michael Hall has been fairly busy the past few years on the USA Network series The Dead Zone.

Morocco: You are so right about Josie and the Pussycats.

http://www.movingpictureshow.com/archives/mpsJosie.htm

comment #58

T. S. Idiot says ...

I join the chorus of those who just don't get Maggie G. Jennifer G., however, is cute, if modestly talented.

comment #59

christian says ...

JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS has moments of genuine satire on the forced commercialism of vacuous culture -- except that it was drowned out by the forced commercialism of the awful music and by-products. you don't score points by preaching that pre-fab music is nullifying then try to sell that pre-fab music. the audience didn't get it.

comment #60

nemo says ...

Seann William Scott has scored two defenders. I'm beginning to feel bad about making fun of his looks. That's one of things I always hated about John Simon as a film and theater critic.

comment #61

nemo says ...

I've never thought much of Scarlett Johansson as an actress, except maybe in "Match Point". Same for Rose McGowan.

But like Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek, Brad Pitt, and George Clooney, Scarlett and Rose are brilliant at playing the movie star. For that reason alone, I hope they have long successful careers. Even if I don't want to see their movies, I just enjoy seeing their pictures when I open a magazine at the dentist's office.

comment #62

renorambler says ...

Rachel Leigh Cook was supposed to be the next Winona Ryder...not exactly the best thing to shoot for. That being said I like them both in general because they have genuine charisma on film. Last time I saw Cook was on that awful, awful Las Vegas show that James Caan is slumming in.

comment #63

Peterson says ...

Wait til you see Cook in this weekend's 'Nancy Drew'.......

comment #64

jeffmcm says ...

James Caan is no longer on Las Vegas, he was sick of it and his contract expired. He's being replaced by Tom Selleck.

comment #65

nemo says ...

James Caan and Tom Selleck weren't even young actors 30 years ago.

comment #66

YND says ...

LYTrules -- he was talking about Matthew Lillard, not Jamie Kennedy. Lillard was the guy who almost ruined SCREAM by thinking he was Jim Carrey (or, alternately, Nic Cage) and subsequently played Shaggy in the SCOOBY-DOO movies. I remember thinking Kennedy was actually pretty good in SCREAM, though I've rather loathed him in everything else.

comment #67

bmcintire says ...

Witness WICKER PARK for a grand-slam of mediocrity. Hartnett, Lillard, Rose Byrne and Diane Kruger. I can still remember when Byrne and Kruger were being touted as Next Big Things upon the release of TROY. Not that they give crappy performaces or that they are in necessarily terrible movies (WP notwithstanding), but their fuses have definitely gone out.

comment #68

christian says ...

SAVING SILVERMAN?

comment #69

bmcintire says ...

Adam Goldberg. He's hip and edgy and smart and all that, but he's got a grand total of one character up his sleeve, and it sets my teeth on edge. He's never achieved deal-breaker status, primarily because outside of THE HEBREW HAMMER, he has (thankfully) been relegated to supporting, no-face-on-the-poster roles.

comment #70

Sean says ...

I gotta bring up Colin Ferrell (unless he's too old) and Orlando Bloom. As soon as the studio heads realize that those two sell magazine covers, but never open movies, they're done. Bloom may coast a little longer based on the success of 'Pirates', which he had little to do with.

comment #71

bmcintire says ...

I'm also going to have to join in on the hate for AMERICAN PIE. It's early-twenties cast's talent level is debatable enough, but that fucking movie turned my affections for Eugene Levy into am absolute hatred of the guy's work. The hack check-cashing performace floodgate was opened by that piece of shit: THE MAN, CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2, BRINGING DOWN THE HOUSE, NEW YORK MINUTE, DUMB AND DUMBERER, DOWN TO EARTH, and of course AMERICAN PIE 2 - 5. His appearance in trailers now makes me cringe and he was the stake in the heart of A MIGHTY WIND for me.

comment #72

Hallick says ...

"But, Rob Lowe still gets work by making fun of himself ever since the sex tape scandal."

He still gets work because he pulled himself together for a while on "The West Wing" with an excellent performance before he tantrumed himself off. You can see the tepid version of basically the same character on "Brothers and Sisters".

comment #73

Hallick says ...

"Question: which young actors today are cruising for a similar bruising? You see their names on the poster, and right away a voice tells you (however fairly or unfairly, accurately or inaccurately) it's either so-so or mediocre or an outright stinker. Because of one factor and one factor alone -- they're in it."

It isn't really the young actors making those movies right now. My marquee shitlist has people like Matthew McConaughy, Kate Hudson, Robin Williams, Hillary Swank, and Ice Cube crowding the top.

I have to defend Matthew Lillard a little bit too. I hated him in "Scream", but he kicked ass in "SLC Punk" and its been sad to watch his career fizzle onward ever since.

comment #74

D.Z. says ...

I'm surprised no one added Claire Danes to the list.

comment #75

D.Z. says ...

Oh, and Leo.

comment #76

BurmaShave says ...

D.Z., you're a monster.

comment #77

George Prager says ...

Reading D.Z.'s post reminds me of the sight of a very small and skittish dog taking a dump on the side of a curb.

comment #78

Craig Kennedy says ...

...flinching everytime a car goes by?

comment #79

The Winchester says ...

Eddie and whoever wrote back to him- Reynolds kicks ass in The Nines. I agree that I always used to think of him as Jason Lee-lite, and waiting is a horrible film, but Reynolds was pretty good in Smokin Aces, saved Blade Trinity from being completely terrible, and he rocks ass in The Nines. Such a good flick.

But I will also firmly put myself on the No More Dane Cook bandwagon. That guy's just terrible.

I used to have Paul Walker on the top of that list, I even had a theory about how Paul Walker has to be the nicest guy in the world to explain how he keeps getting parts (they gotta feel bad for the guy), but then he also rocked a little ass in Running Scared, so he's moved up on the list slightly.

comment #80

Cadavra says ...

Prager: there's more to being hot than just having a great body. With Alba, you get the feeling that the lights are on, but no one's home.

And if you think I'm gay, send over your wife or girl friend (if you have one)--I'm sure she'd appreciate the improvement.

comment #81

George Prager says ...

Cadavra takes almost 24 hours to respond to a post. A new HE record, I think...

"With Alba, you get the feeling that the lights are on, but no one's home."

And this makes her not hot because...?

comment #82

D.Z. says ...

I'm assuming that Cadavra means that Alba's hot, but that her attractiveness would diminish as you got to know the "real" person.

comment #83

George Prager says ...

Oh, I get it. Only smart broads get Cadavra.

here's an example.

example:

CADAVRA
"HATARI and VALANCE are bloated but LAWRENCE is not? I know it's The Greatest Movie Ever, Ever Made, Ever, but seriously, that second half could use some pruning."

JEANNE MOREAU
You are so right, Cad. I want to hear everything you have to say on this matter. Be a darling and pour me another glass of Pernod. Lawrence of Arabia does need some pruning. You have so many opinions on so many things. I find that very sexy...

or:

CADAVRA
"HATARI and VALANCE are bloated but LAWRENCE is not? I know it's The Greatest Movie Ever, Ever Made, Ever, but seriously, that second half could use some pruning."

JESSICA ALBA
Huh?

CADAVRA
Lawrence of Arabia...

JESSICA ALBA
Lawrence who?

CADAVRA
Lawrence of Arabia. It's a movie.

JESSICA ALBA
Oh....did you make those reservations yet?

CADAVRA
Reservations?

JESSICA ALBA
The sushi place?

CADAVRA
I forgot.

JESSICA ALBA
You forgot! Omigod....

comment #84

christian says ...

who is george prager and why is he saying terrible things about everybody?

comment #85

Cadavra says ...

Cadavra takes almost 24 hours to respond because Cadavra has a life and doesn't spend most of it online.

But credit where credit is due, Prager: the me/Alba exchange is very funny, especially as I have in fact had this conversation on several occasions, most memorably with a girl named Tiffany who not only had never heard of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S but was completely unaware of the store itself.

comment #86

rocco says ...

I find Maggie G. neither intellectually nor sexually stimulating, and the two are very often intertwined. I'm not going to go into a diatribe about her plain-ness, but her arrogance and complete self-absorption with being a hip Village actress would turn me off no matter who she looked like...

I understand some guys like watching women in high heels squashing bugs...hey, to each his own, but please, PLEASE, don't try to convince the rest of us...