comment #1

D.Z. says ...

I heard they're making a movie based on the Mayan prediction that the world will end that year.

comment #2

D.Z. says ...

On a related note... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070702/ap_on_he_me/alcohol_abuse
Coincidence?

comment #3

thevisceral says ...

The world will end with a Journey song and a sudden cut to black.

comment #4

Cadavra says ...

Thie only way to deal with these wackos is to respond with a joke; they have no way to deal with this. My ex-personal trainer once asked me if I was ready to meet my maker. I told her, "I'm sorry, but Dr. Frankenstein passed away many years ago." She had no way to deal with that. And when some street-corner crazy shouted at me that The End would be coming at midnight, I inquired, "Will that be Eastern or Pacific time?" Again, no comeback. Treat them like the fools they are and they collapse like a house of cards.

comment #5

D.Z. says ...

visceral: For me, the fact that a Michael Bay film gets more praise from critics and fans than the cartoon version with Orson Welles is the sign of the Apocalypse.

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le corbeau says ...

I lovethat this basically boils down to, "Can you believe those hicks spouting that antiscientific garbage when The Prophet Al hath revealed unto us the real end of the world?"

comment #7

americanrat says ...

It's funny that supposedly plugged in types like Wells can wag their finger at all the Mayan afficiandados and right wing Christians who are convinced the end times are on us, but he's blind to the fact that global warming goofball-ism is just another facet of the end times hysteria.

As far as the Twelvers, born agains and Gore-ites are concerned, I am inclined to do just as thevisceral suggests - "Treat them like the fools they are and they collapse like a house of cards."

comment #8

BurmaShave says ...

The last two posters have made excellent points. And they are about to get flamed to death in three, two, one...

comment #9

gruver1 says ...

Wells to American Rat: Guys like you send people like me into...I was going to say "shock" but I'm presuming you're trying to piss people off by saying things like that. Righties love pissing off lefties. It's a form of perverse nihilistic amusement. I get that....I think. My own form of perverse amusement is imagining a special sub-cavern of hell for grand fellows like yourself, with a million spits rotating over a million bonfires and the collective howls of agony echoing into infinity. Who's weirder, you or me?

comment #10

jimjonesiii says ...

"I heard they're making a movie based on the Mayan prediction that the world will end that year".

yep.
there`s an upcoming movie and seems it`ll be directed by the transformer`s guy.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/15/2012-michael-bay-on-soul-patrol/

so, basically, at the end of the world, a michael bay`s film about the subject will be playing everywhere.

comment #11

D.Z. says ...

gruver: Republiscum don't believe there's a hell for treason, which is why Bush let Libby off the hook.

comment #12

americanrat says ...

americanrat to wells - I'm not a rightie or a leftie. I'm a scientific rationalist and student of history. That's why I don't believe in Jesus, Quezacotl or Gaia. I don't have to imagine a hell to condemn apocalyptic clowns like you to, because you all will create one on earth for all of us. You're no more intellectually credible than a rabid Christer and your end of the world scenario is less believable than the ones they spin on the George Noory show.

In the end, global warming and all this new age end times stuff is just another miserable facet of baby boomer culture. Hey boomers - the world isn't ending. You are.

comment #13

D.Z. says ...

americanrat: "I'm a scientific rationalist"

Is that a euphemism for those people who still believe the world is flat?

comment #14

Ford_Fletcher says ...

To answer Jeff's questions:

1. As someone who's lived in Alabama most of their life, I notice you can always see a spark of passion in Christian fundamentalist's eyes (and Mel Gibson's for that matter) when talking about end times and the apocalypse. I think on at least a subconscious level Bush may believe in the end of the world so much that he's trying to speed things up a bit. Maybe all Evangelicals are on a certain level. They hate this Earth and are ready to leave it. Like Gibson, most of the really hard cores I've come across are former substance abusers or have any number of self-destructive tendencies.

2. You'll also notice that a lot of the right wingers on this site--or posters in general--don't seem to really enjoy anything but scoring a quick crack at your expense or, when you aren't around to respond, cannabalizing each other with third grade school yard slurs and petty, in depth dissections of a single sentence out of a two paragraph post like this one. This kind of hate filled, emotionally retarded, stunted existence has to take its toll. Is it really any wonder they would want to check out sooner than later?

comment #15

D.Z. says ...

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/216192

comment #16

BurmaShave says ...

Americanrat is a cold, cold, cold motherfucker. That's brisk.

comment #17

Ford_Fletcher says ...

And no other posters but Jeff should worry themselves to responding to part 2 of my last post. I'll probably be too busy having sex, doing drugs, not hating gays, welcoming my Hispanic neighbors, enjoying the good karma of helping the less fortunate, not getting riled up by Fox News reports suggesting minorities get special treatment, and just generally not walking around with a big stick up my ass and a stomach full of hate about my life.

comment #18

Hickenlooper says ...

What about the Islamic nutjobs who are flying planes into buildings and tryiing to procure nuclear weapons trying to end the world today?

comment #19

D.Z. says ...

Hickenlooper: "What about the Islamic nutjobs who are flying planes into buildings and tryiing to procure nuclear weapons trying to end the world today?"

They were trained by a previous Republican President who believed in Armageddon.

comment #20

Hallick says ...

Two kinds of people get away with bullshit predictions: weathermen and the memory-less idiots who tell you the world's going to end in a couple of years (every couple of years). The day one of these a'holes is dragged out into the streets to be flogged like the cartoon they are at 12:01am the day AFTER their doomsday came and went...will probably be the actual second coming, since it's never going to happen.

I usually feel bad for the rank and file that eat these end times deadlines up because I get the feeling their lives are probably miserable as all hell and they desperately want something supernatural to come and take them away from all of this misery. But their would-be prophets are just a-holes basking in their own glory. God how I wish you were an interventionist in these cases (a really cruel one too).

comment #21

malibugigolo says ...

americanrat "Hey boomers - the world isn't ending. You are."

Bingo.

comment #22

le corbeau says ...

Ford Fairlane, I mean Fletcher,

Your warm, generous, kindly, deeply humane outlook on your fellow men has transformed me. I hope from now on I can be a love-filled liberal like you. And I hope any Christian who doesn't like my new outlook gets slow-acting gangrene from the fucking bayonet up his twat.

comment #23

T. S. Idiot says ...

"Ain't no heaven. Ain't no burning hell."--John Lee Hooker

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christian says ...

funny how the people that flew planes into our buildings are also devout believers in their version of armageddon.

lesson?

comment #25

DarthCorleone says ...

Whether or not fears of global warming are overblown, I think the net effect of dismissing those fears as overblown is that we continue to let environmental stewardship slide. Even if Al Gore's projections overshoot the mark, you're a fucking blind idiot if you don't realize and acknowledge that humanity's actions do have a negative impact on nature's various ecosystems and our limited, waning resources. Go ahead and stick your heads in the sand, though, jackasses. I don't plan to procreate, so what do I care about the shitstorm that we leave for the next generation? (Ironically, I do care, and there's the rub.)

comment #26

Rich S. says ...

The premise of this post is logically flawed. I don't see any citation to statistics supporting a correlation between belief in evangelical end time prophecy and global warming denial. In fact, one would expect to see the opposite effect of what it posited.

Someone once said that the definition of a fanatic is a person who doubles his effort despite having forgotten his goal.

comment #27

giantman says ...

People throughout history have believed that the world was going to end, our time is no different. Why? Mostly because we all want to believe that the time we live, our brief moment of time, is somehow special, unique, and has meaning. For many, this translates into a desire to witness the end of all things, to be there for the big finish. For others, it means warning us about the end and helping us do something to prepare, cults, UFO crazies and Al Gore.

The world is warming, this is a fact. But why is it warming? Now that is a fact still looking for proof. Certianly the Earth has warmed and cooled on its own many, many times in the past. The other planets in our Solar System are also warming. But, even if Man is not responsible for causing global warming, that does not forgive us our responsibilities to our home. Anyone who makes that leap is an idiot, and anyone who accuses me of doing so simply because I doubt and await further proof, is also an idiot.

Right now there is no difference between Al Gore and the man on the corner with the sign. Except maybe the suit. This doesn't make me a right-winger or a liberal, it just makes me someone who likes to think for himself.

If the world does end, it'll be our strange and obsessive desire to murder one another that does us in, not some supernatural being. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

comment #28

le corbeau says ...

Well said, Giantman.

Too bad you're doomed to turn on a giant spit for all eternity for thinking it.

comment #29

NYCBusybody says ...

Stereotypes die hard (and live free - hey-o!), and we all create our own, but to me, when I think of simple-minded acceptance of Biblical prophecies and so-forth, it's black people that come to mind. I grew up in a highly black urban area. I mean, let's face it - it's a class issue. Poor people tend to be more religious, and always have been, throughout human history. Marx wasn't kidding, and I'm always amused how the snobbery of limousine liberal urban elites really, in essence, serves to aid the boost of rampant capitalism by demonizing and thus separating themselves from the real lives of the actual poor.

That being said, I simply find it highly unlikely that 50%...1 out of 2...Americans really deeply believe in Revelations, or apply that belief to their actual lives. I'd like to see that poll question, as it was worded.

comment #30

le corbeau says ...

"I simply find it highly unlikely that 50%...1 out of 2...Americans really deeply believe in Revelations, or apply that belief to their actual lives."

The reality is that many people belong to a "faith" of one kind or another that requires ignoring the logical ends and demonstrated failures of that faith. (E.g., that Comrade Stalin is the model for all human leadership, that loosening the commitments of marriage will increase happiness in society, etc.) There were some journalists who tried to play gotcha with Bush before the 2000 election by making him agree that by his faith, Jews weren't going to heaven. Set aside that Jews don't believe in a Christian heaven anyway, nearly every faith is built on the assumption that THIS is exactly what God meant, however poorly he communicated it, and failing to follow this doctrine exactly means being excluded from his grace. The nice thing is that 90% of people in those faiths in modern societies are able to forget this most of the time and live and work perfectly happily with the damned. The people, Bush included, are simply better than their religions.

comment #31

nola says ...

Wow NYC busybody. I guess MLK jr was too stupid to know better. In case you forgot most of the ministers (as in the ones who went to theological school) from back in the day were not poor and/or uneducated.

Not all people of faith are crazy, stupid, intolerant or right-wing.

However, extremists in any relgion are frightening. Witness the doctors who planned the latest attacks in Scotland and Britian.

I think things are going to get worse. These fanatics are not playing. The fact that a doctor, who has an oath to save lives, was willing blow himself is something most Westerners, (myself included) have a hard time grasping.

comment #32

giantman says ...

Smart, intelligent and dedicated terrorists are far more frightening than ignorant, blindly obediant ones.

Thoreau said it best and I paraphrase, that the mass of men are not men really, but men of straw. Easily led without their own moral convictions. The world continues to revolve downward into madness. And Michael Bay will make a summer blockbuster about it I'm sure.

comment #33

NYCBusybody says ...

"Not all people of faith are crazy, stupid, intolerant or right-wing"

Not right-wing, no. Maybe not intolerant.

Stupid and crazy? I vote yes.

comment #34

nola says ...

hmm, that is kind of intolerant.

comment #35

eventide fields says ...

This is the first time I have read..and even posted at this site. Just a guy trying to ease back into the film industry (love filmmaking) and get a film financed. So...anyway I get led to this site...checking out all the various updates, reviews, insight etc. I now come across this posted subject...
Listen, no matter where one stands...my overall sense as I read, is so much anger and bitterness. So much condemnation...just a bunch of condemning of each other and everything under the sun...what's the point? I ask us to check ourselves. Why are we angry? Really?
Jesus never condemns...only man does. There are so many false perceptions about what a true disciple of Christ is...and what a true biblical worldview is. Please re-examine.