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"Bourne" is ant-government?

Believe it or not, Bill O'Reilly will be advancing a view that The Bourne Ultimatum is antigovernment propaganda during the second hour of The Radio Factor, starting at 1 pm today. As the Radio Factor website puts it, "Ultimatum has a political message that may surprise you... we'll break it out for you and explain why it may make you mad." Flash: Arizona Daily Star critic Phil Villarreal was supposed to be a guest, presumably arguing against the O'Reilly view, but his bosses stepped in at the last second and said "no, you can't do that."

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on August 7, 2007 at 9:25 AM

comment #1

christian Author Profile Page says ...

there's no better poster child for the intellectual failures of the modern republican party than bill o'reilly. he screams that "media matters" website somehow distorts actual audio/video of his spoken inanities and lies; he changes his tune on iraq on a weekly basis; he says something one day then refutes that he said it the next; he calls the daily kos a hate site while he screams that if san francisco is attacked we should leave it alone; and he's overall your typical right wing media bully.

he's as anti-american as they come.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:06 AM

comment #2

snackyx Author Profile Page says ...

This is the same Bill O'Reilly who is running a personal Jihad against the Daily Kos--the well known left-wing hate website. Screw 'em.

Posted by snackyx Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:09 AM

comment #3

Scott Feinberg Author Profile Page says ...

Jeff, as much as I dislike Bill-O, I do think the film has political undertones--I happen to agree with them, and I happen to like the film, but let's not kid ourselves. Just pulling a few thoughts from my initial review of the film (http://andthewinneris.blog.com/1969939/):

Presented with the chance to take out Bourne, CIA big shot Strathairn gives the go-ahead, even though Stiles’ CIA agent would be killed with him. Allen nobly confronts him and asks, "Do we have no boundaries? If we don’t stop here, then when do we stop?" He sharply responds, "When we win!" This is textbook Bush... "Stay the course... If we don’t fight them there, we’ll be fighting them here... We won’t stop until we win the war on terror." Neither Strathairn nor Bush can achieve--or even define--victory because they cannot first define their enemy.

Additionally, the film repeatedly depicts the waterboarding of Bourne during flashbacks. This form of torture has been the source of great controversy for Bush Administration, since they have consistently refused to rule it off the table, despite its inhumane nature. By graphically portraying this grotesque method, particularly on a sympathetic (not to mention innocent) character, it indirectly criticizes it and makes it much harder for people to deferentially support.

Posted by Scott Feinberg Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:12 AM

comment #4

cjKennedy Author Profile Page says ...

The government has been the bad guy in each Bourne film and O'Reilly is just now catching on? Or is it the open jabs this time around at how we're fighting our current war that has his panties in a bunch?

Whatever. If I was a conservative, I would be embarassed by folks like O'Reilly.

Posted by cjKennedy Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:12 AM

comment #5

AH Author Profile Page says ...

All that one needs to know about Mr. O comes from the quote that you posted: "Ultimatum has a political message that may surprise you...we'll break it out for you and explain why it may make you mad."

Not make you think, but "make you mad." That says it all.

Posted by AH Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:26 AM

comment #6

Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

I heard some of his rant on radio. It's ridiculous hearing him talk about movies. He repeatedly says the Bourne film is "a big cartoon" and his tone implies that he could easily make something similar.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:26 AM

comment #7

Midwest Doug Author Profile Page says ...

It's funny, I thought the private office scene between Voson and Landy was a little artificial. Voson says something to the effect of "Come on, Pam, you know that we need this kind of program." Landy never responds to that in the affirmative; she just moves on with the next question.

If anything, the CIA looks more competetent than how it normally is portrayed. And the film is more anti-bureaucracy than anti-CIA. The CIA agents know that the Bourne-Landy meeting is suspicious, but the bureaucrat (Voson) plunges ahead with it anyway. And Landy doesn't send the Blackbriar stuff to the Times; she sends it internally and Congress investigates and cleans it up -- part of the American process, whether Dems or Republicans control it.

Posted by Midwest Doug Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:30 AM

comment #8

cinefan Author Profile Page says ...

Bill O. is nothing but a blowhard jackass. I love how he holds himself up as this great paragon of moral virtue, except of course for the times when he's sexually harassing female employees over the phone or asking porn stars to hook him up with free samples.

Posted by cinefan Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:33 AM

comment #9

PhilVillarreal Author Profile Page says ...

The newspaper management stopped me from appearing on the show.

Posted by PhilVillarreal Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:36 AM

comment #10

Howlingman Author Profile Page says ...

Do people still take O'Reilly seriously? Hasn't he already become a punchline?

It's unfortunate that so many people can't just watch and enjoy any sort of art without first filtering it through their rigid political ideologies. And that applies to both sides of the fence, both of whom are equally guilty of that sort of cultural retardation.

Posted by Howlingman Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:38 AM

comment #11

foxnewsisfake Author Profile Page says ...

I look forward to an enlightened, objective discussion.

Posted by foxnewsisfake Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:39 AM

comment #12

Josh Massey Author Profile Page says ...

Even though I hated the film, I do give Transformers credit for being about the most anti-government popcorn film I've ever seen.

Posted by Josh Massey Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:40 AM

comment #13

christian Author Profile Page says ...

he's still the most popular FOX personality.

nuff said.

i liked him better back in the 80's when he was hosting tabloid shows about topless car washes.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:41 AM

comment #14

christian Author Profile Page says ...

"The newspaper management stopped me from appearing on the show."

whoa, back up. what do you mean?

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:42 AM

comment #15

LYT Author Profile Page says ...

Jeff, ever read Movieguide? Ostensibly a "Christian" site, it also bashes any movie that even has a hint of anti-Republicanism in it.

Check out their review of Bourne:

http://www.movieguide.org/index.php?s=reviews&id=7514

Posted by LYT Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 10:53 AM

comment #16

Stephe96 Author Profile Page says ...


Maybe if Greengrass had held the camera steady for more than a half-second I would've noticed if the movie was anti-government.

Posted by Stephe96 Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 11:01 AM

comment #17

DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

O'Reilly probably hasn't found a good spy movie to like since the Reagan singlehandedly beat the Commies, leaving James Bond to battle a series of succesful, misunderstood capitalists.

I mean, Breach was OKAY but they hardly explained exactly HOW evil the Russians are. They really played down that angle.

Was it Colbert who noted that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias?"

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 11:09 AM

comment #18

TL Author Profile Page says ...

"...and explain why it may make you mad."

Seriously, you can't make up shit like that.

Posted by TL Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 11:14 AM

comment #19

malibugigolo Author Profile Page says ...

THE Phil Villarreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????/

Posted by malibugigolo Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 11:53 AM

comment #20

swordandpen Author Profile Page says ...

Because our government's actions during the last few years have really earned our sympathy and trust.

As said before, O'Reilly is anti-American.

Posted by swordandpen Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 12:02 PM

comment #21

PhilVillarreal Author Profile Page says ...

Malibugigolo, you sound like the girls I used to ask out in my single days.

Posted by PhilVillarreal Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 12:41 PM

comment #22

DarthCorleone Author Profile Page says ...

LYT>> Interesting read.

I'm mystified by this comment:

"Also, the action is so intense that the plot points are not in the right position to sustain complete interest in the movie. There are points where the movie lags. Whether a movie is action or a parlor drama, to sustain interest you must put the plot points in the right place."

The plot points are in the wrong place? What does that even mean?

And this comment is just stupid:

Ultimately, however, finding his identity seems to solve his angst, and the issue of guilt, apology and the need for redemption fades. This is too bad because the movie could have set up a very powerful story of the fallenness of mankind and the need for God’s forgiveness."

On what basis? Bourne doesn't solve the mystery until the end of the movie. We don't know what Bourne does next. There is no evidence that his guilt and need for redemption fade. If anything, they are on full display during the final action sequence when Bourne spares the life of the enemy asset and later makes the philosophical remark: "Look at what they make you give." It's like this reviewer wasn't even paying attention to the film.

Posted by DarthCorleone Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 1:25 PM

comment #23

Mike Schaefer Author Profile Page says ...

So, Mr Villareal... were you supposed to dispute Bill-o's claims or back them up?

Posted by Mike Schaefer Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 1:29 PM

comment #24

PhilVillarreal Author Profile Page says ...

I think any anti-government leanings "The Bourne Supremacy" shows carry as much weight and relevance as Matt Damon jumping 5-foot walls on a motorbike. I'm guessing it would have turned into a debate.

Posted by PhilVillarreal Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 3:35 PM

comment #25

cjKennedy Author Profile Page says ...

"Look at what they make you give." That was the same thing said to Bourne by Clive Owen in the first film, no?

Posted by cjKennedy Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 3:40 PM

comment #26

malibugigolo Author Profile Page says ...

Phil:

Your witty rejoinder solidifies my first instinct: O’Reilly / Villarreal would have been this decades Vidal/ Buckley.

Alas, I am forlorn.

In any case: O’Reilly’s bizarre take on Bounre which has the least context, politically, sexually, even emotionally (outside of adolescent male adrenaline) of any action movie in a very long time makes me think that after one viewing of HOPSCOTCH he would claim that Walter Matthau was an extremely dangerous anarchist and all his movies should be kept under lock and key.

Posted by malibugigolo Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 3:56 PM

comment #27

DarthCorleone Author Profile Page says ...

cjkennedy>> That's correct. I really dug that they came full circle with that and paid some respect to "The Professor."

Posted by DarthCorleone Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 4:11 PM

comment #28

cjKennedy Author Profile Page says ...

Yeah but Darth...the plot points!... they're... they're out of place! Somebody take away that guy's copy of Syd Field.

Posted by cjKennedy Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 4:30 PM

comment #29

Howlingman Author Profile Page says ...

Darth C: "Somebody take away that guy's copy of Syd Field."

And give him a first grade grammer textbook; that is seriously the most poorly written review I've read -- and I visit AICN . Although the Almighty Movie Guide gets props for calling the fights "reminiscent of Bruce Willis."

Posted by Howlingman Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 5:45 PM

comment #30

Howlingman Author Profile Page says ...

Sorry, cjKennedy, your Syd Field quote.

Posted by Howlingman Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 5:47 PM

comment #31

malibugigolo Author Profile Page says ...

"the need for redemption fades"

Only aluminum and glass are redeemable.

Posted by malibugigolo Author Profile Page at August 7, 2007 6:23 PM

comment #32

BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

"you may be upset"

This is representative of the Fox mindset, all the way down to local weather. Does anyone remember last year when Hannity and others were raising a stink about Perry White saying "Truth, justice, and all that stuff" instead of "The American Way"? These people almost have more time on their hands than blood. Almost.

Also, if it makes anyone feel any better, while his TV jamboree is pretty huge, O'Reilly's radio program is a relatively large failure. Here in DC it was recently replaced with sports talk.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at August 8, 2007 1:34 AM

comment #33

Movie Watcher Author Profile Page says ...

I have tried to watch O'Reilly's show, but he leans too much to the right. He's always bitching about the left-wing sites, but barely a peep about the right-wing sites, basically ignoring them. What a joke. Does anyone take this guy seriously? I guess he used to be a journalist;now he's an entertainer, and not a very good one.

Posted by Movie Watcher Author Profile Page at August 8, 2007 2:45 AM

comment #34

MAGGA Author Profile Page says ...

O Reilly is not a good entertainer?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rlZvrUJecs

Posted by MAGGA Author Profile Page at August 8, 2007 9:45 AM

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