comment #1

RoyBatty says ...

Barbara Bodine is one of the guests on Bill Maher this week and they discuss the doc. Doesn't matter what approach the director went, there's no way any reasonable and sane person can react to finding out that 21 and 23 year olds were put in charge of parts of the Iraq reconstruction other than outrage.

If you want further reasons to work your dander up over the completely incompetent job this administration does with just about ANYTHING there was also a nice little aside about Katrina during the show about how the private companies hired to clean up New Orleans were paid like $170 a ton, but when it got down to the guys who actually took the trucks out to collect the virtual mountain of debris it was $5 a ton.

comment #2

AH says ...

Why would people want to see this documentary? To get outraged about our actions regarding this war? Aren't we outraged already?

I'm not saying that these documentaries aren't important but the fact is that people are tired of this war, they are now against it, and they want to U.S. to get out. Why would they pay money to be told something that they already know?

comment #3

christian says ...

just let the free market take care of this.

the critics of cadillac drivin' welfare frauds seem to have no concern about the mountains of cash americans are burning in this war. and look at the contractors being killed due to greedy fear.

bin laden said he would attack the us through a bleeding of resources. it's happening. remember when kerry was mocked for predicting the war would cost almost 200 billion dollars? quaint.

comment #4

Larry says ...

Bin Laden thought he could bleed us? Wow, if he's that stupid we can't possibly lose. We were in a recession before 9/11, and the attacks put us back on our heels for a while, but since then the economy has been growing pretty well, while Iraq (even if it were a dead loss, which it's not) represents less than 1% of our GDP, far less than Vietnam and far far less than World War II.

You used to run a country and live out in the open, Osama--have a good time hiding in those caves.

comment #5

RoyBatty says ...

AH - you see docs like this to bolster your arguments as to why we should get the fuck out.

There are still plenty (and lately their numbers have been sadly growing) who think that the surge is working and that we must stay in and find a way to "fix" the horrible mess we created. You have to be able to show some people that on every level this has been an unmitigated foreign policy disaster and across the board it's a failure. Even if the surge works, they'll still find a way of fucking it up by putting boot-licking yes-men in sensitive posts.

And some of us have been against this thing for so long, a little fresh outrage is sometimes needed to restoke the fires of activism.

comment #6

Stephe96 says ...

The DePalma movie tells us that US troops are just a bunch of murdering rapists....and now this documentary argues we shoud bring them HOME!?!? I don't know what to think anymore.

comment #7

erniesouchak says ...

Unfortunately this moved pretty quickly to the shithole theater at the Beverly Center.Do I want to beat the heat badly enough to shell out $9.50 for big-screen-TV presentation of a film that's only going to make me hate this government more than I already do?

comment #8

JackeyAces says ...

Anyone who thinks Cheney & Rumsfeld are stupid or incompetent is a fool. Heck even Jimmy Carter isn't that stupid or incompetent. This was the plan from day one. This was never a war it was heist job from the conception. Who goes to war without any plan for victory? Why lie about nukes after you have won Senate Approval?

You lefty's see conspiracy every time you do not get your way. Even with a complete lack of evidence and pile of evidence stacked up against you. Here we have the greatest fraud by a US Pres since Woodrow Wilson and the "War to end all wars" I guess Hitler was right the bigger the lie the more likely people will swallow it.

comment #9

SpinDozer says ...

'Anyone who thinks Cheney & Rumsfeld are stupid or incompetent is a fool.'

Wingnuts frequently claim great enjoyment derived from the fact their heroes are designated as 'stupid' and 'evil' by the Left because in their black & white universe you cannot be both. Likewise, the accusation that the Deciders in this administration are both stupid and/or incompetent does not preclude that they have motives which stupidity and incompetance won't serve. The estimated dollar cost of the war was both stupid and incompetant, but it made 'war powers' passage easier. When Chernobyl melted down and Pravda or Izvestia (whichever) announced that certain victims 'no longer required treatment', most people can see that this was a trifecta, stupid, incompetant, & evil; why is it so difficult to imagine non-Bush personality cultists don't have the sophistication to understand the war in these terms?

The administration comes up with a series of lies, WMD, Democracy, etc., that must be countered in the public policy debate, but that does not mean that people can't understand this is about control/influence on energy assets.

comment #10

Hallick says ...

"Why would people want to see this documentary? To get outraged about our actions regarding this war? Aren't we outraged already?"

No. The anti-amnesty people alone made the average anti-war protester look like a wimpier brother of Stephen Root in "Office Space".

comment #11

christian says ...

The Times had noted that Bush, asked about life after leaving office, told Draper, “I’ll give some speeches, just to replenish the ol’ coffers.” Bush added, “I don’t know what my dad gets — it’s more than 50-75” thousand dollars a speech, and “Clinton’s making a lot of money.”

yes, this is the man i trust to lead the free world. christ!