Joey Bishop = Jimmy Kimmel
Now that the biological host-vessel has expired, the spirit of Joey Bishop will attempt to enter (or perhaps already has entered) Jimmy Kimmel. Every culture and era needs a Joey Bishop type. Somebody smart, sardonic, flip, deadpan. This doesn't describe Kimmel to a T -- he's his own man, a guy who lives and dies by the wearing of elephant collars plus he smiles more than Bishop ever did -- but he's the closest thing we have today to a Bishopian figure.
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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on October 18, 2007 at 3:31 PM
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christian
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"Somebody smart, sardonic, flip, deadpan."
What does that have to do with a mediocre like Kimmel? It's an insult to Bishop.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 3:42 PM
comment #2
scooterzz
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deborah kerr, joey bishop and teresa brewer all posted obits before noon...bad day to be a celeb, i guess......
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 3:51 PM
comment #3
Monument
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Smart, sardonic, flip, deadpan...sounds like Kimmel to me. It may be a matter of taste but mediocre? Hardly.
Posted by Monument
at October 18, 2007 3:55 PM
comment #4
christian
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Oh yes, the wit of Jimmy Kimmel: drinking beer and watching cheerleaders on trampolines. I guess he does represent the Vegas tackiness of Bishop...
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 4:15 PM
comment #5
lazarus
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Kimmel is fat, ugly, and most importantly, not funny.
I'm mystified as to how he has his own show on television, not to mention how he managed to bag Sarah Silverman, who has more humor and talent in her clitoris than Kimmel has in his entire, over-sized body.
I'm surprised Wells is even writing about this lowest common denominator, barely above frat boy level "comedian".
Posted by lazarus
at October 18, 2007 4:15 PM
comment #6
Walter Sobchak
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Speaking of Vegas, Kimmel and tackiness..... anyone going to The Comedy Festival? (Nov. 14-17 at Caesar's Palace)
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at October 18, 2007 4:16 PM
comment #7
OddDuck
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This is going to sound incredibly lame, but I'd be far more likely to watch (or Tivo) Kimmel's show if they broadcast it in HD. Stewart and Colbert get a free pass on this, but a network show doesn't.
Also, I'm a really tough lay when it comes to laughs, but will admit, what I've seen of Kimmel's schtick ain't half bad. Unfortunately, that's more a commentary on how much comedy sucks today than it is a compliment to Kimmel.
Posted by OddDuck
at October 18, 2007 4:17 PM
comment #8
christian
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Kimmel and Carolla are more like today's Martin and Rossi. And all that implies.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 4:18 PM
comment #9
Monument
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Kimmel and Carolla haven't done the Man Show for about 4 years, and I'm guessing you haven't paid attention to either of them since, or at all.
Posted by Monument
at October 18, 2007 4:21 PM
comment #10
scooterzz
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why would anyone want to see kimmel in hd??? ewwww.....
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 4:24 PM
comment #11
Joe Leydon
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Christian: You mean we'll soon see them in a remake of The Last of the Secret Agents?
Posted by Joe Leydon
at October 18, 2007 4:26 PM
comment #12
christian
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Right Monument. I live in LA and see nothing of the two. Not on billboards, radio, TV or Kimmel's very own theater on Hollywood Blvd. Right under my cultural radar. And they're still not funny.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 4:27 PM
comment #13
Monument
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You're right Christian, with a nose that high in the air there's no way you could miss those billboards.
Posted by Monument
at October 18, 2007 4:31 PM
comment #14
christian
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"You mean we'll soon see them in a remake of The Last of the Secret Agents?"
If a remake would do for their careers what it did for Martin and Rossi, I'm all for it.
That said, I'm still dying to see LOTSA. I love the theme song and the film looks quite pop art 60's stylish. Paramount thought Martin and Rossi would be the successor to Martin and Lewis. They THOUGHT.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 4:31 PM
comment #15
christian
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"You're right Christian, with a nose that high in the air there's no way you could miss those billboards."
Sadly, it doesn't stop the stench.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 4:33 PM
comment #16
christian
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The Man Show is off the air? Really?
An Emmy-winning Hollywood makeup artist is suing Snoop Dogg and several members of his posse, along with ABC, the "Jimmy Kimmel Live" show and the Walt Disney Company, for $25 million, alleging that Dogg and his buddies drugged and raped her in his dressing room after the rapper guest-hosted Kimmel's show. According to the woman, Kylie Bell, in January 2003, Dogg and his pals slipped her some laced champagne that left her feeling heavy and unable to control her own body, then had their way with her. She says she was reluctant to come forward right away for fear of retaliation, but eventually alerted police and the show's producers, who paid her medical bills and living expenses for a time.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 4:39 PM
comment #17
Joe Leydon
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Christian: Hello dere. I saw it. Trust me: It's no Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine.
Posted by Joe Leydon
at October 18, 2007 4:40 PM
comment #18
Arizona Joe
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Joey Bishop was a man of his time, sardonic, and original, all things considered.
Jimmy Kimmel is one of many in the younger generation trying too hard to be funny. Last Tuesday he was axed from ESPN/Disney's Monday Night Football for making humorless and unnecessary comments about a former employee.
Kimmel is a Vegas guy who tries to outdo the Rat Pack in terms of mean-spiritedness and vulgarity. There was more to it than that.
Theresa Brewer could really sing. I loved her version of "Duke's Place" that Larry King used to close his old radio program with.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at October 18, 2007 5:01 PM
comment #19
corey3rd
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few films rate up there with the genius of Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine. Where are the tomes on the Cinema of Norman Taurog?
Posted by corey3rd
at October 18, 2007 5:19 PM
comment #20
Mgmax, le Corbeau
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I saw Joey Bishop once in Boys' Market (not a gay bar, a grocery store in Marina Del Rey). I just want you to know that I have been in the presence of a god.
(Actually, this was when I was about 10 and spent a month in LA, and I walked by Bishop, Hal Holbrook-- same grocery store, different day-- and Groucho, outside the Cafe Swiss; and we saw Walter Matthau while driving, and Fred Gwynne somewhere. Every time I've been to LA since then, the level of celebrity I've seen in public is like an ex-cast member of The Young and the Restless or something. Not sure why.)
Posted by Mgmax, le Corbeau
at October 18, 2007 5:28 PM
comment #21
Joe Leydon
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But Dr. Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs? Even though it was directed by Mario Bava -- worst sequel of all time until Matrix Revolutions.
Posted by Joe Leydon
at October 18, 2007 5:30 PM
comment #22
MilkMan
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It's not just a bad day to be a celebrity, it's a bad day to be a human. Actually, every day is a bad day to be a human.
Jimmy Kimmel looks and acts like he was conceived through rape.
Posted by MilkMan
at October 18, 2007 5:31 PM
comment #23
scooterzz
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i interviewed bishop on his boat a few years back (when hbo was releasing 'the rat pack' movie)... this was one very angry man....i'm surprised he lasted this long.....but he sure was good back in the day....it might be interesting to hear what regis philben has to say either tomorrow or monday.....
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 5:39 PM
comment #24
Joe Leydon
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Scooterzz: Angry? Well, put it like this -- in the early '80s, he was down to doing dinner theater revivals of '5o's Broadway comedies. He appeared in a Texas city -- no, not Houston -- opposite a well-known actress who later told me that it was the most unpleasant experience of her professional career, that he was a nasty lout who would whipser nasty things under his breath to her -- while they were on stage! during performances! -- that would throw her off her lines. I hope he's at peace now.
Posted by Joe Leydon
at October 18, 2007 6:15 PM
comment #25
Mr. Peel
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I can't believe it. There's been a Mario Bava mention in a thread devoted to Jimmy Kimmel. That just about makes my day.
Posted by Mr. Peel
at October 18, 2007 6:16 PM
comment #26
scooterzz
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joe-- yeah, that sounds right...i was treading lightly as i didn't want to do a 'bob clark' on the guy...but it was a reallllllllly unpleasent experience.....
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 6:38 PM
comment #27
christian
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Scooterzz, I would love it if you could shoot me a link to the interview or where to find it...
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 7:01 PM
comment #28
futureman
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Arizona Joe- Kimmel was a guest on Monday night football- hard to be fired as a guest of something, but I guess you only read headlines and haven't even seen Monday Night Football or Kimmel's show, but good job being an idiot.
Posted by futureman
at October 18, 2007 7:13 PM
comment #29
scooterzz
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sorry, christian...it aired before stations were linking on-line....it's stored on a mini-disc somewhere in my garage.....
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 7:16 PM
comment #30
christian
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One word scooterzz: youtube.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 7:26 PM
comment #31
Josh Massey
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Arizona doesn't know what he's talking about, but that doesn't change the fact Kimmel came off as an arrogant, unfunny asshole on "MNF" this week. And I usually like the guy.
Posted by Josh Massey
at October 18, 2007 7:27 PM
comment #32
T. S. Idiot
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Bishop's talk show was one of the worst ever. He did no preparation, had only the vaguest idea who his guests were. The only pleasure was seeing him humiliate his sidekick, the bumbling R. Philbin.
Posted by T. S. Idiot
at October 18, 2007 7:43 PM
comment #33
scooterzz
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ts -- you've got to be kidding?! one of the worst? did you never see the talk shows hosted by jerry lewis, sammy davis or chevy chase?...in the context of the time, bishop was pretty wonderful.... even his walk-out (leaving a bewildered regis to take over) was great tv.......son of a gun.....
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 8:02 PM
comment #34
christian
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If anybody is the new host (nicely ohrased Jeff) it would be Regis Philbin. Not to insult Bishop again. The Rat Pack's kind will not be seen again.
Posted by christian
at October 18, 2007 8:09 PM
comment #35
scooterzz
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christian's right...philbin is the last of the greats (well, there's still cavett but, these days, he just kinda comes off as a queeny old gas bag)......
Posted by scooterzz
at October 18, 2007 8:24 PM
comment #36
AndrewMallet
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i think jimmy kimmel is fantastic.
Posted by AndrewMallet
at October 18, 2007 10:30 PM
comment #37
Arizona Joe
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If you don't think Jimmy Kimmel was a regular on Monday Night Football, and paid more than scale to cross promote his talk show, you are mistaken.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at October 19, 2007 12:58 AM
comment #38
christian
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Let me rephrase this in the spirit of DR. GOLDFOOT & THE GIRL BOMBS: Kimmel and Carolla are as funny as Franco and Cicccio.
Posted by christian
at October 19, 2007 8:15 AM
comment #39
BurmaShave
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What is this obsession with HD? It has only had terrible results so far. And we're about to see it butcher the original STAR TREK. Did you know Spock was yellow? Fuck you HD.
Posted by BurmaShave
at October 19, 2007 11:42 AM
comment #40
Terry McCarty
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Christian wrote:
If a remake would do for their careers what it did for Martin and Rossi, I'm all for it.
Actually, it's Allen and Rossi. And I did get to see them at the Sands Hotel sometime around 93/94 before the Sands was imploded for Venetian.
Posted by Terry McCarty
at October 19, 2007 2:04 PM
comment #41
Terry McCarty
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Here's an interview with Bishop around the time of THE RAT PACK's airing on HBO, conducted by then-DALLAS MORNING NEWS TV critic Ed Bark:
http://www.guidelive.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/television/stories/1018glbishoparchive.18342d24d.html
Posted by Terry McCarty
at October 19, 2007 2:20 PM
comment #42
christian
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I know, Allen and Rossi. But they were so much like Martin and Lewis -- sans laughter.
Posted by christian
at October 19, 2007 2:21 PM
comment #43
christian
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"In the Hebrew religion, ingrate is the worst," he says. "I once told an interviewer that Regis is terrific. He gives lots of hope to people who have no talent."
Zing! Goodnight folks!
Posted by christian
at October 19, 2007 2:42 PM