"Beowulf," eros & laughter

Kyle Smith's review of Beowulf on Kyle Smith Online is, I'm sorry, quite hilarious. Sorry because I don't feel that derision is the right way to go, but your funny bone had its own mindset. For what it's worth, Beowulf producer and co-writer Roger Avary said it made him laugh also. The gist of the joke is that Beowulf has much erotic (and homoerotic) undercurrent going on, and is so intense that some (like Smith) feel the need to alleviate this with humor.


"With long, straight blond hair and a headband, Beowulf seems like Bjornborgowulf, but this is one Scandinavian who isn’t content to have a killer forehand. 'I'm Beowulf,' he declares. 'I’m here to kill your monster.' And quaff your drink and swive your wenches, please.

"The queen (Robin Wright Penn) frostily notifies Beowulf that 'there have been many brave men who have come to taste my lord’s mead,' at which point the newcomer must be wondering if he has stumbled into Ye Olde Gay Scene.

"Undeterred, Beowulf promptly strips naked in front of the queen, promising her that after he slays Grendel he’ll be happy to do some naked co-ed jousting with her, and then things get really strange. Grendel attacks again while Beowulf is nude, and while motion-capture Ray Winstone certainly has the carved physique nature denied the pillowy Ray Winstone we know from The Departed and Sexy Beast, you’d think he’d want to throw on some chain mail or at least pick up a codpiece before engaging in battle fierce with the slime-dripping beast.

"Instead, Beowulf, uh, rides the creature around the room. I mean, he mounts the monster bareback and bends it to his will. I mean, he squeezes the vicious demon between his rippling thighs and thrusts away with his fist. Never mind."

For what it's also worth, a friend saw Beowulf with a somewhat older industry crowd last night and reports that some of them were "howling" at some of the lines. Urgent, intense eros = hah-hah steam valve escape.

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on November 15, 2007 at 11:27 AM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

I'm getting an irritating 300 vibe off this thing, but then Jeffrey hated 300, right? And he generally dismisses the fantasy genre, but he's over the moon about Beowulf.

Is it just the 3D?

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:17 PM

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storymark Author Profile Page says ...

Beowulf fought Grendel in the nude in the book as well.

Posted by storymark Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:27 PM

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chicbn872 Author Profile Page says ...

I refuse to watch 300 or Beowulf. I'm sure the effects are fantastic and all but I just don't want to see half-naked men roll around and fight. Call me a homophobe, but I just won't watch it. I don't need to see oiled up dudes in loin cloths.

Posted by chicbn872 Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:37 PM

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MilkMan Author Profile Page says ...

This is the perfect movie to see if you've just kidnapped a five year old from Toys R' Us.

Posted by MilkMan Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:39 PM

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Monument Author Profile Page says ...

"I don't need to see oiled up dudes in loin cloths."

Sure you do, it builds character.

Posted by Monument Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:42 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

"I just don't want to see half-naked men roll around and fight."

I bet you watch a lot of sports.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:49 PM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

MilkMan: I got mine at Chuck E Cheese; is Beowulf still perfect for me or should I be thinking Netflix?

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 12:59 PM

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lar8 Author Profile Page says ...

shock value humor! wait for the other shoe to drop! congrats.

Posted by lar8 Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:08 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

My post kidnapping screening schedule is all set, but what do I unwind with after I've buried the bodies out by the interstate? Beaches?

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:17 PM

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rocco Author Profile Page says ...

Sometimes people laugh not as a defense mechanism but becuase they are amused by extremely hammy writing or inadvertent double-entendres that should have been obvious to the writer, to the actor, to the director, editor, etc...why does everything always have to be so Freudian??

Posted by rocco Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:19 PM

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p.Vice Author Profile Page says ...

This review is what we call "progress" in this here modern age. Maybe they fought demons in the nude back in the dark ages, but in these times I don't see any of our soldiers trucking off to kill those evil muslims with their cocks floating in the breeze. Then all they'd be talking about on CNN is how well-hung our military is compared to those Iraqistanis.

Posted by p.Vice Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:36 PM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

Tell me, Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:38 PM

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MilkMan Author Profile Page says ...

Post-corpse burial you're going to need a little pick-me-up, so my suggestion would be either Over the Top or Streets of Gold, the Joe Roth-helmed boxing movie with Klaus Maria Brandauer, Adrian Pasdar and Wesley Sniped, which was my favorite movie back in 1986, or, as I like to call it, the Year of Living in Locked Closets.

Posted by MilkMan Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:45 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

I can't abide Stallone, so Streets of Gold it is. I'll wash it down with a little Tuff Turf starring Kim Richards' stunt breasts. Had a crush on her as a lad watching Escape to Witch Mountain. That will put me back in the dark place. The cycle repeats.

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 1:53 PM

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JeffK Author Profile Page says ...

I saw this 2 nights ago, and I (as well as other audience members) misheard "meade" for "meat". And thus there were quite a few immature chuckles towards lines such as "Many men have tasted the kings 'meat'" and "much merriment in the kings great 'meat' hall". As for the nude fight, I'm glad the filmmaker's had the guts to go through with it and stay true to the poem, but you could feel every guy in the audience tense up and consider taking off their 3-D glasses, just in case 'something' were to fly up in their faces.

To its credit, Beowulf isn't as dumbed down as most of its cinematic bretheren, but I can't form an opinion on it because most of the time I was simply gawking at the 3-D and how real most of the characters looked. As a technical demo and a spectacle, Beowulf succeeds, but as a film, I think I'd have to see the 2-D version to take it all in.

Posted by JeffK Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:00 PM

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Jay T. Author Profile Page says ...

Or, sometimes people just laugh at bad dialogue because it's bad dialogue.

Posted by Jay T. Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:03 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

"One can only assume it snuck around 300's R rating by being an animated movie -- 'You know, for kids' --only Beowulf is not a kids movie. The nervously tittering perpetual horniness aside this is an adult drama? albeit one suffering from arrested development. This is not to say that it?s a fussy high-minded period drama. Merely that it's not a kid's movie. Too bad really since the 'acting' isn't expressive enough for potent drama and the real kick is in the visuals which kids might love."

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Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:21 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

I've got nothing against Roger Avary, but Angie's embarrassed I'm talking about her nipples again.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/15/DD93T8RFF.DTL

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:23 PM

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York "Budd" Durden Author Profile Page says ...

3-D, animated, or otherwise, it will be tough to top Viggo's battle in the buff.

Posted by York "Budd" Durden Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:25 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

I'm going to ask this one more time: Do I really need to see it in IMAX or is a regular theater in 3D good enough?

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:40 PM

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Cosimoto Author Profile Page says ...


THis is pretty funny:

BaioWulf: The Trailer

http://tinyurl.com/yvdhtu


Posted by Cosimoto Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:41 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

cj, I paraphrased Avary here. You decide what to do.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/11/avary_again.php

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:45 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

Come on CJ, you KNOW you want to see it at City Walk.

But it's clear the only way to go is IMAX.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 2:49 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

The thing is T., I don't give a shit about Angie's CG'd nips. I can get airbrushed nippage in Maxim magazine for free at 7-Eleven when I'm getting a bucket of Slurpee.

I'm not sold on the whole blowing a 35mm frame up to the size of IMAX thing. Did they really render it at a resolution that will look better than shit in IMAX?

If so, City Walk here I come.

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:05 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

I'm assuming Roger meant it for everything, but it was the nips that stood out, and best illustrated the improvement, over Real D, for him.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:14 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

Ok, but if I drag my ass up to City Walk and there is no happy ending...Well, in the words of Lee Marvin in Point Blank: Someone's got to pay.

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:18 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

You know what had a great ending that I just got around to seeing? Michael Clayton.

cj, as opposed to hauling your ass where? If you don't like it, I'll pay you.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:24 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

That's nice. It's the kind of guarantee you'd hope to see coming from someone who is pretending to have been involved in the story stage.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:28 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

You mean Ian Sinclair, who BTW, is first to comment (and under his real name) at Klye Smith Online. Go figure.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:34 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

Wait a minute T, why are you campaigning for Bukkakewulf all the sudden? I thought you were kind of against it.

And which ending are you talking about regarding Michael Clayton? Are you talking about the climax or are you talking about the cab ride?

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 3:36 PM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

You're an adult male -- this movie was made for you and it's a watershed, turning-point, event, so you sort of have to. I just want to see it get ripped to shreds for being mysogenistic, pandering to an underage crowd and lying about heroes coming home.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 4:09 PM

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Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page says ...

Ok, ok. Beowulf. IMAX. 3D. I just realized The Bridge has IMAX so I'll drive across town and see it there instead of City Walk.

Posted by Craig Kennedy Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 4:24 PM

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MovieBob Author Profile Page says ...

For what it's worth, I just say it in "regular" theatre 3D and it worked just fine. Also, the movie REALLY kicks ass. The mocap animation style still isn't exactly where it NEEDS to be to really work, but you can see clearly here what the possibilities are for the future. But more importantly, the script and most of the acting is really dynamite, well-done, grownup stuff. It's just a damn, damn, DAMN good movie.

Posted by MovieBob Author Profile Page at November 15, 2007 10:22 PM

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Sarcastig Author Profile Page says ...

If you thought that review was funny, check out Nick Schager's one over at Slant. Less crude, but more effective, intelligent, and funnier.

Posted by Sarcastig Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 3:45 AM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Ebert's review is also very, very funny.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 5:26 AM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

bigfan0808, aka WealthyRomance, aren't you the hack who gives people herpes, AIDS and computer viruses?

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 7:40 AM

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scooterzz Author Profile Page says ...

one of the crowds i saw this with was laughing out loud at the whole 'austin powers' aspect of how many ways they could hide our hero's manhood.... and along those lines, when i read the poem a million years ago, i took 'fighting naked' to mean 'without armor' (not actually naked).....
having seen the movie in both 3-d versions, i've gotta say that imax is, hands down, the way to go.....

Posted by scooterzz Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 8:59 AM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

scooterzz' a both way-er and he won't even confirm what I keep harping about. Maybe it's too "kiss and tell" for him. Maybe "hands down" is some kind of cheekiness, like Black Snake Moan's "it's hotter down south." Consider the issue to be strictly a post-production tech, digital resolution issue, not a purient one, and reconsider indulging me on the litmus test detail, as if we were filmmakers testing it in a screening room in Hollywood on N. Serrano Ave. in the not to distant future.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 10:48 AM

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scooterzz Author Profile Page says ...

t-- what exactly is a 'both way-er' and what exactly am i supossed to confirm? (you do tend to harp though...i'll give you that)....

Posted by scooterzz Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 11:17 AM

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Ian Sinclair Author Profile Page says ...

T. Holly is just a blowhard with little breath.

Posted by Ian Sinclair Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 11:29 AM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

In the IMAX version, when Jolie was on camera (in all her scenes), did you, like I, clearly see her nipples beneath her gold paint? Since you, like Roger Avary have seen it in IMAX and Real 3-D, you can weigh in, if you're capable, on the issue -- it's not purient. Thanks.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 11:29 AM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

pru·ri·ent

Thanks for correcting me Ian.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 11:38 AM

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T. Holly Author Profile Page says ...

I'll let it go, because I'm either parsing things too much or being too futuristic for you. Anyway, you're a writer, not a filmmaker. There are more important issues to me, such as: it's really not cool to embarrass actresses. I read somewhere Jolie said she was excited to work with Zemeckis and gave him carte blanche, and she was surprised with the results given that she thought she was going to be a lizard. I don't know how much of that is true, but I don't think it's trivial to wonder about how actresses feel about the technology, or the visual differences across platforms or about test screenings (which Roger said they couldn't do.) Sorry, I'm a good listener, I'll try less hard, next time.

Posted by T. Holly Author Profile Page at November 16, 2007 12:57 PM

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dd Author Profile Page says ...

I'm sure the effects are fantastic and all but I just don't want to see half-naked men roll around and fight. Call me a homophobe, but I just won't watch it. I don't need to see oiled up dudes in loin cloths.

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