"Whatever it is, it's winning"

The Cloverfield 2 trailer (i.e., the one that preemed iin theatres last weekend in front of Beowulf) is up. Great stuff. No monster glimpses -- just the old throaty Godzilla roar, lots of herky-jerky photography, lots of running around Manhattan. Helicopters, subway tunnels, walls collapsing..."what's that?" Underneath the monster-movie trappings, producer J.J. Abrams isn't trying to hide the fact that it's basically a 9.11 revisiting. "Whatever it is, it's winning."

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on November 19, 2007 at 2:38 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

There ya go, Jeff! It's a fantastic trailer altho a little 9/11 resonance goes a long way.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 2:59 PM

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Caustic712 Author Profile Page says ...

Does anyone know if Giuliani is doing press for it?

Posted by Caustic712 Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:00 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

Booyah!

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:01 PM

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Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

It's true about the 9/11 undertones. That must have been a part of the concept/discussion. We all saw that amazing footage that day captured by individuals....so try and take a little of that and blend it with Godzilla.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:15 PM

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p.Vice Author Profile Page says ...

I think the other day someone called this The Godzilla Witch Project. Pretty apt, although it certainly looks like a working example of the less-is-more principle. I just hope it ends with the entire city being nuked, protagonists included.

Posted by p.Vice Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:20 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Damn, p.Vice beat me to it.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:32 PM

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Dave Author Profile Page says ...

I think the most subtle 9/11 parallel I spotted was when they're in the convenience store, looking out through the glass but seeing nothing as there's dust/debris obscuring the windows. I knew quite a few folks who ducked into stores and shops as the towers came down who described it just like that (plus, we've seen footage of that before-- the French guys' documentary, I believe).

Posted by Dave Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:33 PM

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robbery Author Profile Page says ...

Brooklyn hipsters and their camera phones save the world!

Posted by robbery Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 3:53 PM

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arch451 Author Profile Page says ...

The movie is about 9.11? That's a bit of a stretch. Is any disaster movie that takes place in Manhattan from now on about 9.11? Is Spielberg's War of the Worlds about 9.11? Is the Towering Inferno about 9.11? Don't impose your connotations on other people.

Posted by arch451 Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 4:23 PM

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jimjonesiii Author Profile Page says ...

Looks better than "The mist", another movie about 9.11.

Posted by jimjonesiii Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 4:25 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

Yes, Spielberg's War of the Worlds was about 9/11, just as the original one was about the Cold War. Don't impose your blinders on other people.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 4:32 PM

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Daniel Tayag Author Profile Page says ...

Don't know if anyone has seen this yet.

Hilarious spoof trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBOyG5Bgduk

Posted by Daniel Tayag Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 4:50 PM

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Feathers McGraw Author Profile Page says ...

Spielberg specifically said that his version of War of the Worlds was largely inspired by his being separated from his family on 9/11 and unable to get to them. And there's deliberate 9/11 imagery woven through the entire thing.

Posted by Feathers McGraw Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 4:57 PM

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Jay T. Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, man, this looks good... the action scenes remind me of Children of Men in that raw, highly realistic way.

A lot of people are going to throw up in the theater, though, by the looks of it. Not that I care personally. ;)

Posted by Jay T. Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 4:59 PM

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Jay T. Author Profile Page says ...

Giuliani: "If you vote for Hillary Clinton, this movie will come true."

Posted by Jay T. Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 5:01 PM

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actionman Author Profile Page says ...

I hope we never see a full glimpse of the monster. That'd be cool. Love the trailer, can't wait.

Posted by actionman Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 5:39 PM

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Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page says ...

You'll wait the whole movie to see it, and at the end, the monster will turn out to be Jodie Foster's dad.

Posted by Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 5:55 PM

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giantman Author Profile Page says ...

I suspect that anyone that lived through Pearl Harbor, anytime they see a movie about planes bombing ships think, "Oh shit, another movie about Pearl Harbor." And I don't say that in jest, 9/11 is part of our consciousness now, so anytime someone blows up something in New York, sure, it'll remind us of 9/11. Doesn't mean it is inspired by it, sometimes its just fun to blow up New York. Not for real mind you. No, seriously Homeland Security!! I said that in jest, a joke!?? You remember humor?

Anyway, I for one hope this thing is as good as the trailers. I hope the whole movie is told from regular people and we don't have one single Michael Bay cut-away to the Secretary of the Defense, or the Pentagon, or any of that other crap he likes to do for no good reason.

Posted by giantman Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 6:28 PM

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Geoff Author Profile Page says ...

Doesn't look like 2.39:1 anymore. I remember some people bitching about that.

Posted by Geoff Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 6:33 PM

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le corbeau Author Profile Page says ...

"Spielberg specifically said that his version of War of the Worlds was largely inspired by his being separated from his family on 9/11 and unable to get to them. And there's deliberate 9/11 imagery woven through the entire thing."

Not to mention Vietnam imagery and Holocaust imagery (has there ever been a better visual metaphor for that event than the train full of people being burned alive, racing through a station?)

Posted by le corbeau Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 7:00 PM

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btwnproductions Author Profile Page says ...

Isn't this a January dumping ground release? Why is anyone excited about that?

Posted by btwnproductions Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 8:20 PM

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MovieBob Author Profile Page says ...

If this REALLY IS a shine on "Godzilla" then a metaphorical 9/11 paralell is entirely called for: The original "Gojira," especially in it's Japanese uncut version (which is now out on a gorgeous ultra-affordable US DVD so no serious film fan has any excuse left not to see it) is 100% 'really about' Hiroshima and it's aftermath.

There had been "giant monster rampage" movies before "Gojira" came out in 1954, but NONE of them ever looked or felt like it did and they never looked the same after. Japan taught world cinema what seeing a cityscape obliterated by a destructive force of unimaginable scale had to look like because they'd lived through it - vaporized buildings, fleeing citizens, shaking streets, miles of radiation-burned survivors and all.

The point is, once you actually experience a sensation or event, it tends to change the way your able to re-create something similar artistically. On 9/11 New Yorkers felt the ground tremble under them, buildings shudder around them, fled from dust-clouds and watched as something punched a hole in the skyline. No movie where these things happen, even if it's by force of a giant CGI dinosaur, will ever NOT look or feel quite a bit like it and still feel even a little bit honest.

Posted by MovieBob Author Profile Page at November 19, 2007 9:54 PM

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jeffmcm Author Profile Page says ...

Sure, you can still destroy New York without it being a 9/11 reference. But a handheld video camera movie about people running through the streets of New York while untold horrors happen? I don't think that's a stretch.

Posted by jeffmcm Author Profile Page at November 20, 2007 1:29 AM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

It looks fun, but the only thing that worries me is the fact that during some of these scenes, I think people would more likely be running for their lives, rather than filming something. A journalist, yes. A regular guy, no. That was the one thing that bugged me about the end of Blair Witch, which I otherwise loved. There was no reason for her to be running her camera during that scene.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at November 20, 2007 5:26 AM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

I think the fact that we are back to making movies about a destroyed New York (Cloverfield, I am Legend) shows that we didn't let the terrorists win.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to clear my credit cards for Black Friday. Take that Osama! USA! USA! USA!

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at November 20, 2007 6:29 AM

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Bocephus Author Profile Page says ...

You can see a brief glimpse of the monster in the trailer. No detail, but you see something VERY big moving between buildings. Also, if you look at the creepy scene with the three people's shadows, the lady in the center begins to swell up like a balloon.

Also, you can hear the monster in the final scene of the trailer. It sounds kinda like a dolphin.

I like that the whole movie isn't being shot on a low quality DV, it appears that the character who is taping everything gets himself a decent camera eventually.

Posted by Bocephus Author Profile Page at November 20, 2007 8:26 AM

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hatchetface Author Profile Page says ...

That part of Blair Witch didn't bother me - I think the characters are all so fucked-up and scared at that point that peering through the camera is probably either completely compulsive, or else it makes them feel a tiny bit removed from what's happening in front of them, illogical as that may be.

Posted by hatchetface Author Profile Page at November 20, 2007 3:06 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Personally I hope it's a whale. You know as soon as whales sprout legs they're gonna come fuck with us.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at November 21, 2007 1:51 AM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

Or tuna fish. They will be more pissed.
Sure glad I don't eat 'em.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at November 21, 2007 11:41 AM

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