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christian says ...

Settle for what the cynics tell us?
So we shouldn't listen to Jeff?

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Geoff says ...

"...and then I woke up."

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Dan Revill says ...

I'm loving how Wells who seems to me to be pretty anti-religious - especially Christianity - is all doe eyed for the born again Obama. Not that I mind. I'm pretty taken with the dashing Senator too.

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le corbeau says ...

Man, if you want to get your Hillary hate on, read Victor Davis Hanson's piece on Bill's arguments for her at Pajamas Media. Here's the climax, which is cruel but not, I think, unjust:

"5.It would be cruel, but understandable to ask amid these long encomia on Hillary’s character, her talent, and her morality—prefaced by Bill’s commentary that he almost alone realized her singular gifts, why in the world, then, did he spend over thirty years trying to escape her in almost every way imaginable? Why if she walked on water, did he find company, carnality, conversation with Paula Jones or Gennifer Flowers, or feel the need to talk trash and more with Monica? In other words, he is asking the voter to take on a partnership, a political marriage if you will, that he, mutatis mutandis, never would or has. It reminds me of the last time I bought a Chevy S-10. The local Selma salesman went on at great length about its reliability, its power, and economy, its great price, and then I asked him whose small, like-sized Toyota Tacoma was parked nearby and was it for sale? No need to tell you to whom it belonged."

http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/victordavishanson/

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christian says ...

Whoda thunk a war-mongering neo-con could pile on so much Clinton hate? Hanson's defense of Bush reveals all one needs to know about his insight into the human psyche.

"That is, by standing nearly alone in the Middle East, by never wavering in the face of unprecedented venom, and by weathering everything from Abu Ghraib to the televised beheadings, Bush has established himself a man of principle who welcomes the chance to offer unpopular but needed solutions to real crises."

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rr3333 says ...

What a sad state of affairs that in this country we cant find just one truly great candidate.

Hillary's full of it. Obama's too young (and who the hell is this guy, really??). McCain's too old. The rest are just posers ...

Then again, we have the great W as our 2 term president.

Sad Sad Sad

comment #7

Dave says ...

I'm conflicted. I *like* Obama. He comes off as a personable fellow. What the Clintons are doing to him now is wrong-- it was wrong back when they did the shit to Republicans, so it's still wrong now. The sooner you guys rid yourself of them, the better.

That said. . . Obama is empty. Rhetorically empty. It's all platitudes. Delivered nicely, yes. But scratch the surface, and there really is nothing there. Or what IS there is the same stuff Hillary! and Edwards feed us. More taxes, more entitlements, more "us vs. them," more socialism with a happy face. MORE government, not less.

From a personal standpoint, I like that Obama represents a chance to take the Democratic Party away from the seedy slime of the Clintons. From a policy standpoint. . . it's just more of the same old shit.

I mean, for God's sake, Ted Kennedy? There are only two reasons why he'd endorse Obama, and neither are good for Obama: Ted dislikes the Clintons (a little late to the party, but thanks), or Ted loves Obama's policy platform (with friends like these. . . ).

BTW, the best line of the weekend was Ramesh Ponnuru's:

"[Caroline Kennedy] says that Obama could be a president like her father. I assume that means that he'll be overrated, not that he'll bring us to the brink of nuclear war."

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K. Bowen says ...

Isn't it funny that we have a Republican president with a strong record of appointing minorities, and a Democrat ex-president out there race-baiting the electorate, trying to get his wife elected to his old office, and generally doing a George Wallace impersonation?

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christian says ...

What's less funny is how that same Republican President ignored a state full of minorities as they drowned in a sea of neglience.

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le corbeau says ...

Whoda thunk a war-mongering neo-con could pile on so much Clinton hate?

Whoda thunk you'd throw names rather than engage the issue?

Isn't it funny that we have a Republican president with a strong record of appointing minorities, and a Democrat ex-president out there race-baiting the electorate

Isn't it funny there are people who find this amazing? The Democratic party has always loved black people. Oceania has always been at war with Europa.

What's less funny is how that same Republican President ignored a state full of minorities as they drowned in a sea of neglience.

What party was the governor of Louisiana from, Christian? What party was the mayor of New Orleans from? What party is the newly elected governor from?

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christian says ...

Well Mgmax, if you want to quote a neo-con hack like Hanson (and go peruse his archives just to see how wrong he was about pretty much EVERYTHING in regards to Bush and Iraq and the economy) to make some kind of heady anti-Clinton point, you might as well quote Rush Limbaugh.

And since you Repubs convinced America that Bush was the right guy to be in charge of "real crises" then I would expect more from him than to appoint cronys like Brownie, ignore the warnings of breaching and be fucking around on a guitar as America's worst natural disaster was in progress.

It's called leadership and if the crooked Dems of Louisiana didn't show it, neither did our ineffectual hands-off Commander In Chief. But is that news to anybody anymore?

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rocco says ...

whew, what a non-sequitur...christian, you're starting to make Helter Zelter look lucid. Relax, don't get so hysterical...

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christian says ...

I responded to Mgmax's posts, Rocco. How is that non-sequitur, hysterical or DZ like? But good job carrying the weight.

And at what point should one not get uptight over the fuck-ups in charge? It was okay for us to be called traitors and America-haters by the right wing brain-trusts but now we're supposed to chill? Did you miss it when they were hysterical?

I know you're a moderate and everything's relative and Bush is just a dude and Carter was worse than Nixon and Obama will deliver us from evil and all, but...come on. Take a stand.

And when I think of Rocco, I think of Joe Flaherty from SCTV's "Days of the Week."

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rocco says ...

Eh, wha's buggin the dog???

What's less funny is how that same Republican President ignored a state full of minorities as they drowned in a sea of neglience

Irrelevant and inflammatory.

Christian, it's not your hatred of Bush that's irksome, it's the monotony...we all know you hate Bush, he's almost out, there's nothing you can do...you're like the friend who talks about nothing but football and getting laid...that's the guy who doesn't get invited on the ski trip.

I'm not for Obama, but I'm giving him a chance to convince me...same with McCain, although I had written him off a few years ago when it was evident he had become just another republican bootlicker.

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rocco says ...

cutting and pasting I left out:

I usually look forward to your comments and dig your passion, but sometimes it overcomes your intellect and *I'm* supposed to be the hot-blooded Italian.

comment #16

christian says ...

"Yeah, I'm crazy all right.
Crazy like a snake!"

comment #17

christian says ...

And Roccco, it's an election year. I despise Bush policies and his administration; they should be held accountable. And since they're trying to fuel a war against Iran among other ongoing horrors, it's your lack of outrage that's more irksome. You're like the friend who shrugs his shoulder at impending disaster...because he's going on a ski trip.

And if you're giving McCain a chance, why would Bush bother you? Just get ready for more war war war. Maybe then you'll get angry. And you'll wonder who let the dogs out.

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