Persistent and Other-Wordly

An interesting observation on the Coen Brothers Wikipedia page, to wit: "Several of the Coen brothers' films feature a character that embodies the archetype of 'unstoppable evil.' In many cases, it is hinted that these characters are inhuman, or feature demonic overtones."

Example #1: Sheriff Cooley (Daniel von Bargen) in O Brother, Where Art Thou? matches the description of the Devil given by one of the characters. He further indicates his otherwordliness when, advised that it would be illegal to hang pardoned fugitives, he sneeringly opines that 'the law is a human institution.'

Example #2: Eddie Dane (J.E. Freeman), the hitman in Miller's Crossing.

Example #3: Leonard Smalls (Randall "Tex" Cobb) in Raising Arizona.

Example #4: Charlie Meadows (John Goodman) in Barton Fink also fit the description of this archetype.

Example #5: In No Country for Old Men, Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) personifies the violence and death in a world that Tommy Lee Jones' Sheriff Bell tries to make sense of...but can't.

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on February 12, 2008 at 11:13 AM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

No Jackie Treehorn?

Paul Newman in Hudsucker also has demonic qualities.

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 11:29 AM

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Sean Author Profile Page says ...

Well, in Hudsucker there's the whole angel/devil thing with Bill Cobbs' Moses and ... and whoever that other character was in the clock tower.

Posted by Sean Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 11:46 AM

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rcpweiner Author Profile Page says ...

I'm not going to say that Peter Stormare in "Fargo" is "unstoppable evil" -- you know, since he's stopped and all -- but he's pretty close to demonic.

Posted by rcpweiner Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 11:59 AM

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Mr. Muckle Author Profile Page says ...

Heinz, the Baron Kraus von Espy scared the hell out of me.

"I'm the CONCIERGE!"

Posted by Mr. Muckle Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:05 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Don't forget Julian Marty (Dan Hedaya) and Loren Visser (M.Emmet Walsh) from Blood Simple. They may not be unstoppable evil, but they sure are hard to kill.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:07 PM

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Beaucoul Author Profile Page says ...

None of the previous characterizations are as implacably or unrelentingly evil as Anton Chigurh, so I don't see any of them as part of the same set.

However, there are plenty of other characterizations of "unremitting evil" outside of the Coen Bros. canon that parallel the one in "No Country."

Perhaps there are too many. That's just one of the problems I had with the movie.

Posted by Beaucoul Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:08 PM

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Jeffrey Overstreet Author Profile Page says ...

I laughed out loud seeing "No Country" for the first time, because I had just thought to myself... gosh, this Chigurh guy's like the Spawn of the Lone Biker the Apocalypse from "Raising Arizona"!

And then, lo... while Chigurh was roaring down the highway, he opened fire on a small roadside animal (a bird, if I recall correctly) just as the motoring Lone Biker blasted away at a bunny rabbit and a lizard. As deliberate a reference as they could have made.

Posted by Jeffrey Overstreet Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:32 PM

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Jeffrey Overstreet Author Profile Page says ...

Also...

All of the Coen films also feature, at some point, an egomaniacal kingpin who sits behind a desk. The Big Desk may be the Coens' most recurrent symbol.

Posted by Jeffrey Overstreet Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:35 PM

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Beaucoul Author Profile Page says ...

hmm...there's also a scene in "o brother.." that shows baby face nelson shooting some cows from a car.

i guess nothing says evil like gunning done wildlife from a moving vehicle.

still, those other characters are played for laughs, whereas anton is supposed to be truly menacing.

nevertheless, i could barely repress a chuckle at that gerbil he was wearing on his head. perhaps he bagged it from some earlier scene.

Posted by Beaucoul Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:46 PM

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Burbanked Author Profile Page says ...

Jeffrey Overstreet: The Chigurh blasting-the-bird bit isn't a reference to Raising Arizona's Smalls; it's directly from McCarthy's book.

Posted by Burbanked Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:48 PM

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Jeffrey Overstreet Author Profile Page says ...

Ah. Well, still, it's still an uncanny connection, no? I wonder if McCarthy was thinking of the Lone Biker when he wrote that. McCarthy and the Coens' sensibilities are so similar, and their conversation in... what was it, Newsweek?... suggested that they've been fans of each other for a while now.

When I read "No Country" for the first time, I kept commenting on how much the dialogue between the characters sounded like a script by the Coen Brothers. I'm surprised they haven't signed up to work together again. (And with yesterday's announcement about the Coens adapting Chabon, they've now got four projects on the horizon.)

Posted by Jeffrey Overstreet Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:57 PM

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Dan Revill Author Profile Page says ...

The Coens are adapting Michael Chabon's The Yiddish Policeman's Union.

I've been meaning to pick up the book for awhile. Guess it just pushed itself up on my list of things to read.

Posted by Dan Revill Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 12:59 PM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

You could also make the argument that John Goodman's character in O Brother is rather demonic.

Or you could accept that most movies have protagonists/good guys as well as antagonists/bad guys and that this article doesn't really have much to say.

After all, don't George Lucas' movies feature, an "archetype of 'unstoppable evil?" What about Disney movies? What about the Die Hard movies, hmmm?

I think you're digging for ideas when you're scanning the Wikipedia bios for something you can riff on...

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 1:00 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

All I know is, if you're a Disney villain, never, ever climb on something above ground level. About 90% of the time, it means your doom.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 1:09 PM

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Beaucoul Author Profile Page says ...

i couldn't help make the connection between tommy lee jones' vo in "no country" and sam elliot's vo in "the big lebowski."

i kept thinking tommy lee jones was going to say something like "the dude abides," at the end of the movie.

Posted by Beaucoul Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 1:25 PM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

Beaucoul, as it's Chigurh who appears to walk off into the sunset, the correct narration would be "The 'do abides"...

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 1:33 PM

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Mark Author Profile Page says ...

Hunter S. Thompson once described the Elevator "But, Buddy" Operator in Hudsucker Proxy as follows: Let there be no mistake in the history books about that. Buzz is an evil man--evil in a way that only those who believe in the physical reality of the Devil can understand it. He is utterly without ethics or morals or any bedrock sense of decency.

Before the review was published, Richard Nixon died, and Thompson transferred the line to Nixon's obit.

Posted by Mark Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 1:52 PM

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Nightswimmer Author Profile Page says ...

Example #6: Kesyer Soze (Kevin Spacey) in "The Usual Suspects". Doh!

Posted by Nightswimmer Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 3:41 PM

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Cadavra Author Profile Page says ...

What did the Coens have to do with USUAL SUSPECTS?

Posted by Cadavra Author Profile Page at February 12, 2008 7:48 PM

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jesse Author Profile Page says ...

I saw it at the Woodstock Film Festival earlier in the month and I was underwhelmed. David Denby wrote a piece on underdramatization in what he called the Cinema of
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Observation where he offered a new criticism of cinematic realism. He argued, in essence, that not enough 'happened' dramatically in films of this ilk. And while W&L isn't exactly like Smart People and other films he referenced, it's not an experimental film either. Yes, we emphasize with her suffering but I needed more there there.

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