comment #1

ZayTonday says ...

No Country for Sound Editing, but Transformers is a lock for Mixing IMO.

comment #2

BurmaShave says ...

One is captured sound and one is created? I dont care if that's true or not, it's what helps me sleep. As long as Kevin O'Connell finally wins.

comment #3

Wrecktum says ...

Sound editing is the equivilant of the director: the creative vision behind the soundscape of the film. The sound mixer is the equivilant of the cinematographer: the technician who can practically put the sound design into a finished product.

comment #4

lazarus says ...

I was under the impresion Sound Editing was Sound EFFECTS Editing, and was responsible for all the extra recorded material in post (including and esp. foley) to supplement the images, whereas Sound Mixing was the controlling of the levels of the various elements, dialogue, score, background presence, and the effects.

Is that incorrect?

comment #5

Matthew Lucas says ...

Sound mixing - the sound design as a whole
Sound editing - how the sounds are created

comment #6

Kristopher Tapley says ...

Actually, yeah, people do know this stuff. Come on Jeff, it isn't that difficult. Sound editors CREATE sounds. Sound mixers re-record them into the film's MIX. Cut and dry.

So if you like the sound of the air gun in No Country, you're digging on the sound editors' work. In fact, most sound work that is appreciated by viewers (or listeners, rather) can be attributable to sound editing. The mix is the overall balance of the design and is a slightly more complicated scenario.

No Country has great sound editing. I do not, however, think it necessarily has great sound mixing.

comment #7

christian says ...

"And don't tell me I'm slow or stupid.
Nobody understand this stuff."

Thank you Karl. Pass the taters.

comment #8

T. Holly says ...

You guys are so stupid; sound editing is the equivalent of doing an up-rez or on-line to the off-line Avid/FinalCut picture edit, EXCEPT that it's done for sound. The act of sound editing is going back to the MASTERS that were recorded during filming and recreating (and making BETTER) the sound edits that the picture editor created in the off-line Avid bay/picture editing room. More specifically, the picture editor's sound work is sent via EDL computer lists to the sound editing room and auto assembled from scratch from the masters and then perfected by the sound editors. There are sub-categories too: adding more sound effects than the picture editor could do and professionally recording ADR or narration. Once this is all done and the sound edits and sound editing is complete, it's delivered to the stage where it's mixed for several weeks or months like music ---dialog, effects and music all just being sound that has to be blended, adjusted and mixed for listening pleasure. WEAR SUNSCREEN AND EARPLUGS, RUBBERS OPTIONAL.

comment #9

Don Murphy says ...

they are two of the three Oscars Transformers will win tonight...

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Iron Man
from the director of ZATHURA

comment #10

Wrecktum says ...

Loved the sound in Transformers. Hated every other aspect of it.

comment #11

Craptastic says ...

I dare any of you to sit through just 5 minutes of this idiot:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/feature?section=on_the_red_carpet&id=5900882

comment #12

T. Holly says ...

i don't think so don

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ic1abd1883d215637999ba07ef6fd98a6

but it's nice to be nominated

http://www.mpse.org/goldenreels/2008awards/2008featurenominees.html

comment #13

Craptastic says ...

Anyone know where I can watch the telecast as a streaming video?

comment #14

corey3rd says ...

WhiiiiiiiFFFFFFF!

Strike one

comment #15

corey3rd says ...

Whiifffffff

Strike Two!

comment #16

corey3rd says ...

Whifffff!

Strike Three on Donny Baseball

Transforms is shut out.

comment #17

T. Holly says ...

Not hard to see, errr hear, why.

comment #18

T. Holly says ...

All editing is supposed to be invisible, but people like to vote for what's noticable, hence Bourne. Notice they all thanked Chris Rouse. Go Marion... not looking your best tonight, must be the stress.

comment #19

erniesouchak says ...

So if someone is credited for "sound design," it's really "sound editing"?

comment #20

T. Holly says ...

Definitely, design is editing -- i.e. taking sound elements from prodction and post production, including source music (but excluding composed music) and cutting/designing them. Editing is everything up until the resultant cut elements are brought to the stage to be mixed (with the music) and with each other for listening pleasure. There's no more cutting or designing once you're mixing, except what the music editor throws together and feeds into the mix as needed on a portable-rig / editing work station. But other than that, there aren't any cutting work stations at the mix, just the monster mixing boards, many hard drives and people with good ears (more than a few who are frustrated musicians).

comment #21

ZacharyTF says ...

Call me stupid if you want, but here is what I've always thought the two categories meant:

Sound Mixing is creating the sounds that are going to be in the movie and Sound Editing is the placement of the sound in the movie.

Now if someone can explain the difference between Album and Record of the Year at The Grammys, my life will be complete! :)

comment #22

T. Holly says ...

You are so completely stupid. What part of my explanation don't you understand, besides all of it?

comment #23

dd says ...

Notice they all thanked Chris Rouse. Go Marion... not looking your best tonight, must be the stress.

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comment #24

dd says ...

Notice they all thanked Chris Rouse. Go Marion... not looking your best tonight, must be the stress.

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