Posted by Jeffrey Wells on February 16, 2008 at 5:13 PM

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Walter Sobchak Author Profile Page says ...

So who's keeping score here?

How many times Hillary has cried-

How many times Obama has gallantly come to the aid of a swooning woman-

Posted by Walter Sobchak Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 5:34 PM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

What would be so wrong with having a President who cried? I'm for Obama, but is Clinton so horrible?

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 5:36 PM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

What would be so wrong with having a President who cried? Is Clinton so horrible?

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 5:36 PM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

Sorry for the double posts. I just don't understand how to work this here internet thingy.

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 5:39 PM

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Wrecktum Author Profile Page says ...

Did Maggie Thatcher ever cry?

Posted by Wrecktum Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 6:22 PM

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gruver1 Author Profile Page says ...

I've never read a good Maggie Thatcher biography, but I suspect she was a bit less calculating and opportunistic than Hillary Clinton. I suspect that Thatcher was who she was, and it played more or less naturally.

Posted by gruver1 Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 6:27 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Edward: I'd prefer a President who doesn't shed crocodile tears.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 6:29 PM

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Walter Sobchak Author Profile Page says ...

I slogged though both of Thatcher's auto-bios, "Path to Power" and "The Downing Street Years" because I'm a fan.... both were rather dry to say the least, especially the first... (i.e. "...then I began my four year row with Ian Slough, Chancellor of the Haberdashery and Chief Councilor of Chipwhich, at the time the most powerful politician in Eastern Dipwick...")

Some good bits in "Downing Street", though.... especially her Reagan interactions.


Posted by Walter Sobchak Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 6:47 PM

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JoeGreenia Author Profile Page says ...

Turturro in Miller's Crossing - "I'll just squirt a few and you'll let me go again."

Posted by JoeGreenia Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 7:38 PM

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Spicer Author Profile Page says ...

Oh dear God, is she crying again? I guess it plays to the uneducated women. I think it's shameless, manipulative, I'll-do-anything pandering.

Posted by Spicer Author Profile Page at February 16, 2008 8:25 PM

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SpinDozer Author Profile Page says ...

'I suspect that Thatcher was who she was, and it played more or less naturally.'

All British women undergo a transformation late in life which changes their girlish twitter into a manly baritone.

Posted by SpinDozer Author Profile Page at February 17, 2008 8:01 AM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

Spin, I find it very hard to believe that Margaret Thatcher ever had a girlish twitter. But maybe she was a hottie way, way back when. I get cold, unpleasant chills just typing this.

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at February 17, 2008 10:32 AM

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SpinDozer Author Profile Page says ...

"Reece also did much to remake Margaret Thatcher. His intuition, reinforced by studies of audience reactions to her television performances, led him to believe that she was seen as "uncaring". It was a combination of her hair, clothes and "that voice". He worked to soften her image. He hired a National Theatre coach to teach her to practise humming exercises in order to lower and deepen her voice, advised on clothing, accompanied her to her television and radio interviews, and made sure that she avoided combative interviewers who would make her strident."

Obituary: Sir Gordon Reece

Don't remember where I heard it, but Thatcher's pre-leadership voice was described as "girlish".

Posted by SpinDozer Author Profile Page at February 17, 2008 10:40 AM

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