HIllary Death Watch

Slate's new "Hillary Death-Watch" feature, written by Christopher Beam, Chadwick Matlin and Chris Wilson. They estimate she has a 12% likelhood of winning the Democratic nomination, and they consider this rating "generous."


Posted by Jeffrey Wells on March 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM

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JaySmire Author Profile Page says ...

I'm now starting to firmly believe that Hillary staying in the race is doing major damage to the democrat's chances in November. And if she pulls out the nomination I don't think we are going to see a democrat in the white house next year-- and that is a shame.

How do I know this? Because when someone like my wife, who several months ago was a firm Hillary supporter, not only switches over to Obama--now says if he doesn't get in she's voting for McCain--that's an issue. She isn't alone. I've heard that from many. I'm someone who hasn't voted for a republican candidate for anything since Bill Weld for governor back in 94, and I'm starting to think the same thing. I don't like how Hillary has handled things in the past several weeks and I'm not sure I could vote for her now if she got the nomination.

Hillary needs to understand--it isn't about hanging in until the bloody end anymore. She needs to get out to preserve the democrat vote. Every day she stays in the risk of McCain getting more votes increases. Did you ever think in a million years that guy would be our president? Well guess what--the chances are very real. Hillary bows out now, she may have a chance some day. She doesn't and she can forget about it forever. I don't even want to see her as the Vice President choice.

Posted by JaySmire Author Profile Page at March 28, 2008 4:19 PM

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christian Author Profile Page says ...

"now says if he doesn't get in she's voting for McCain--that's an issue. "

It's an issue of petulance and what the Koswhacks would disparage as "purity trolling." Any Democrat who would vote for McCain doesn't have a firm political alignment to begin with. It's the same Democrats I knew who voted for Bush in 2000 over Gore.

Posted by christian Author Profile Page at March 28, 2008 5:08 PM

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Posted by K. Bowen Author Profile Page at March 28, 2008 6:34 PM

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JaySmire Author Profile Page says ...

The issue is between a duechebag and a turd sandwich. And if the dueche gets in we may be better off with the turd sandwich.

Posted by JaySmire Author Profile Page at March 28, 2008 8:38 PM

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Zimmergirl Author Profile Page says ...

"How do I know this? Because when someone like my wife, who several months ago was a firm Hillary supporter, not only switches over to Obama--now says if he doesn't get in she's voting for McCain--that's an issue. She isn't alone. I've heard that from many. I'm someone who hasn't voted for a republican candidate for anything since Bill Weld for governor back in 94, and I'm starting to think the same thing. I don't like how Hillary has handled things in the past several weeks and I'm not sure I could vote for her now if she got the nomination."

Don't fret. This thing was over when McCain won the nomination. The majority of Americans may be just too afraid to abandon the old guard during a war. The in-fighting has done damage to the party - not just Hillary's side, the Obama supporters have been so sickening and strident in their hatred of her they've soured folks on Obama even. So yeah, stick a fork in it. White guy gets it. Again.

Posted by Zimmergirl Author Profile Page at March 28, 2008 9:44 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

christian: "Any Democrat who would vote for McCain doesn't have a firm political alignment to begin with. It's the same Democrats I knew who voted for Bush in 2000 over Gore."

If Gore did a better job at not being a Bush-lite and separating himself from the Lewinsky scandal, he would've easily won. Christ, how can a guy who had a better economy than Bush's dad to boast of blow it so easily?

Zimmergirl: It ain't over 'til it's over.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at March 28, 2008 10:08 PM

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Balthazar Author Profile Page says ...

Speaking of a Death Watch (from Nikki Finke):

I'm told #7 Stop-Loss opened to only $1.6 million Friday from just 1,291 plays and should eke out $4+M. Although the drama from MTV Films was the best-reviewed movie opening this weekend, Paramount wasn't expecting much because no Iraq war-themed movie has yet to perform at the box office. "It's not looking good," a studio source told me before the weekend. "No one wants to see Iraq war movies. No matter what we put out there in terms of great cast or trailers, people were completely turned off. It's a function of the marketplace not being ready to address this conflict in a dramatic way because the war itself is something that's unresolved yet. It's a shame because it's a good movie that's just ahead of its time."

Posted by Balthazar Author Profile Page at March 29, 2008 8:25 AM

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Mark G. Author Profile Page says ...

So, if there is a 12 % chance for world peace should we quit fighting for it or still try our best?

Posted by Mark G. Author Profile Page at March 29, 2008 10:13 AM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Balthazar: Phillippe does not=great cast. And I doubt no one wants to see Iraq war movies as much as no one wants to see uninspired Iraq war movies.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at March 29, 2008 12:58 PM

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