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For the usual motives, Manhattan memorabilia collector Keya Morgan has told New York Post reporter Hasani Gittens that he recently brokered the $1.5 million sale of a 15-minute silent stag film showing Marilyn Monroe doing some guy on her knees. Morgan is a reputable collector so authenticity doesn't seem to be an issue. Obviously icky information, especially on a Monday morning, but I'm mentioning it because of a bothersome timeline thing.
Gittens' story says that "the footage appears to have been shot in the 1950s," although elementary logic would indicate the late 1940s. Why would an up-and-coming actress who'd finally broken into the big time, having been cast (most likely in late 1949) in John Huston's The Asphalt Jungle, which came out in May 1950, and then Joseph L. Mankiewicz's All About Eve, which opened six months later, want to risk her reputation by performing in a sordid 16mm sex film? Doesn't add up. Monroe was no dummy.
It's much more likely that this black-and-white quickie was shot in '48 or '49, when Monroe was struggling to make do. That's all I'm saying. Morgan or Gittens didn't think it through. If the film seems to have been shot in the mid to late '50s, which would be confirmed by Monroe's hair being platinum blonde as opposed to her natural light reddish brown (which is how she wore it in until '50 or thereabouts), Gittens should have at least reported this aspect. It's sloppy reporting any way you look at it.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on April 14, 2008 at 9:41 AM
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christian
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Hooray for Hollywood!
Posted by christian
at April 14, 2008 10:35 AM
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Edward
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The things people collect.
Posted by Edward
at April 14, 2008 10:42 AM
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Rich S.
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The description I read of the film was that the guy likely knew they were being filmed (since his face never appears in the frame), but Marilyn did not. She apparently never looks at the camera.
The interesting thing was that Hoover apparently told his guys at the FBI to do whatever was necessary to prove that the guy in the film was JFK or RFK. So, presumably, Hoover believed that the film was made in the late 50s, since I don't think MM's alleged involvement with the Kennedy brothers went that far back.
Posted by Rich S.
at April 14, 2008 10:47 AM
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MilkMan
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I would rather watch the porno Hitler and Eva Braun made in their bunker during the last days of World War 2; the porno that Kevin Costner made with Cal Ripken's wife during the Summer of 1995; the porno that Patty Hearst and the SLA made the day before they robbed Hibernia Bank; the porno Andy Warhol made starring Bob Dylan and Raquel Welch; the porno Stanley Kurick made starring Nicole Kidman and the Australian swimsuit model who played the Naval Officer in EWS.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 14, 2008 10:55 AM
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Edward
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Thanks MilkMan, now I feel dirty and need to go home and shower.
Posted by Edward
at April 14, 2008 10:59 AM
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Cadavra
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Does anyone know what color her hair is? If she's brunette, it's definitely '40s.
Posted by Cadavra
at April 14, 2008 11:04 AM
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Mr. Buckles
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Milkman, do you write for a blog or a site anywhere on the internets?
Posted by Mr. Buckles
at April 14, 2008 11:04 AM
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VoiceOfReason
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Did Kevin Costner really make a sex tape with Cal Ripken's wife?
Posted by VoiceOfReason
at April 14, 2008 11:07 AM
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VoiceOfReason
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never mind: http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/costner.asp
Posted by VoiceOfReason
at April 14, 2008 11:11 AM
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MilkMan
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I used to know a turtle named Mr. Buckles, Mr. Buckles.
And I'm in the process of getting my blog started, although I find it tasteless to promote your blog on someone else's.
Besides, I 'd rather watch the porno Werzer Herzog made starring Dr. Gene Scott and Anne Dusenberry.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 14, 2008 11:14 AM
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Mr. Buckles
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Was the Mr. Buckles the Turtke awesome?
Just to be clear, I will always read HE, but I would also give you a shot.
BTW - the Kevin Costner/Cal Ripken reference is awesome even though most likely a total urban legend.
All who are interested, here is a summary (From Snopes):
Cal Ripken, Jr. was allowing Kevin Costner, the actor, to stay at his house, following the wrap of "The Postman". One day, Ripken left for Camden Yards to play in a game. Somewhere between his home and the stadium, Cal realized that he had left something back at his house, and turned back to retrieve it.
Upon arriving at his home, he found Kevin Costner in bed with his wife, Kelly. Cal then proceeded to beat the crap out of Costner, to the point that Costner was unable to make any publicity opportunities for a time.
Cal then called the Orioles, and told them he wouldn't be coming in to play that day. Upon hearing this, the owner reminded Cal about his streak, telling him The Streak would end if he didn't play that day. Cal told him it was impossible for him to come in, so there went the streak. Reportedly, the owner told him not to worry, because he would take care of it.
That night, the game was cancelled due to "electrical failure" with some lights on the field. The caller said that their was no problem with the lights, that everything else, including the hotels and restaurants that are part of Camden Yards, worked perfectly. The next day, the lights were fixed, Cal was able to play, and the streak stayed intact.
Posted by Mr. Buckles
at April 14, 2008 11:27 AM
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corey3rd
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God bless the internet that allows us to see today's stars banging away in record time and for free! Anyone got the footage of Bea Arthur and Jerry Seinfeld?
Posted by corey3rd
at April 14, 2008 11:44 AM
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christian
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I do have that bootleg scopitone of Marty Allen and Luciana Paluzzi doing a private "Shindig" from 1966. Bidders?
Posted by christian
at April 14, 2008 12:16 PM
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Rich S.
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As long as you keep those Frankie Avalon/Carol Channing outtakes from Skidoo! to yourself...
Posted by Rich S.
at April 14, 2008 12:53 PM
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figaso
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This what we talkin' about?
http://fantasti.cc/videos/permalink/megarotic/Marilyn_Monroe_Porno/89263/?&id=89263&title=marilyn%20monroe&n=1
Brunette I'd say---
Posted by figaso
at April 14, 2008 1:14 PM
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Hickenlooper
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Jeff's comments make sense because Marilyn would NEVER have done anything like this in the 1950s? Absolutely not! Then how do we explain the platinum hair? Easy. IT'S NOT MARILYN! I remember hearing about this film in the late 1980s from a fellow journalist, at the time, in New York. It appears no one has done their homework on this story. From what I recall from my conversation the footage was dismissed because the woman in question turned out NOT to be Marilyn but a look-alike. It was apparently shot in the 1950s when they were trying to capitalize on Marilyn's rising popularity. Wow, some guy just wasted 1.5 million bucks. All he had to do was a little research.
Posted by Hickenlooper
at April 14, 2008 1:17 PM
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colby
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Is Lindsay Lohan going to recreate this too?
Posted by colby
at April 14, 2008 1:27 PM
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D.Z.
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"Monroe was no dummy."
If that were true, wouldn't she be alive today...?
Posted by D.Z.
at April 14, 2008 1:39 PM
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The Hoyk
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I thought Hugh Hefner had bought this footage years ago - that's what was stated when clips were shown at the defunct Hollywood Erotic Museum a couple years back. Unless of course we're talking about a different stag loop.
Posted by The Hoyk
at April 14, 2008 2:08 PM
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Edward
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D.Z., unless you subscribe to the theory that MM was executed by the mob, the feds...
Posted by Edward
at April 14, 2008 3:30 PM
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Zimmergirl
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Apparently the FBI had the film in order to "prove" it was a Kennedy's dick (that you should see). And according to the guy who saw it, Marilyn never looks at the camera, meaning, she didn't know she was being filmed. Anyone who knows anything about Marilyn knows that she was never all that stable, especially sexually, and was spiraling out of control after her marriage to Arthur Miller fell apart - I mean, christ, the Misfits was 1960, right. Here's to wishing it's JFK or RFK on the clip.
Posted by Zimmergirl
at April 14, 2008 3:34 PM
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p.Vice
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1.5 mil for a Marilyn blowjob movie? Maybe I'd go that high for double-penetration, but a blowjob's just not exploitive enough to demand that kind of coin, rarity factor included.
Posted by p.Vice
at April 14, 2008 3:53 PM
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Ogami Itto
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"This what we talkin' about?
http://fantasti.cc/videos/permalink/megarotic/Marilyn_Monroe_Porno/89263/?&id=89263&title=marilyn%20monroe&n=1
Brunette I'd say---"
If that's really a copy of the 40s/50s stag, then the woman in it isn't Monroe -- and that guy ain't one of the Kennedys.
Posted by Ogami Itto
at April 14, 2008 3:58 PM
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pm123
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Bruce Conner - "Marilyn Times Five" A brilliant film, like everything Conner ever did...
Posted by pm123
at April 14, 2008 4:24 PM
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BurmaShave
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DZ you're an awful person.
Posted by BurmaShave
at April 14, 2008 4:47 PM
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corey3rd
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what's wasting $1.5 million on a stag film. How much cash got burned on Monkeybone?
Posted by corey3rd
at April 14, 2008 7:44 PM
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americanrat
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There's a William Manchester book in which he recounts that Marilyn Monroe was fascinated with pornography and the idea of being in a pornographic movie. If I remember the passage correctly, she even conjectured that by 1975 or so it would be acceptable for mainstream actresses to perform in porn.
Posted by americanrat
at April 14, 2008 8:38 PM
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D.Z.
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Edward: She didn't seem like the type the mob would have a vendetta against, unless they were really killing her to scare off JFK. But I'd imagine he'd want some payback, if that happened.
Posted by D.Z.
at April 14, 2008 11:32 PM
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Mgmax
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Ogami-- the other supposed Marilyn videos are either a 50s Playmate named Arlene Hunter (who looked a LOT like her) or the stripper Candy Barr (whose resemblance was much more vague).
Back in the day some video seller helpfully put all the supposed star porn on one VHS tape and a friend of mine bought it. Apart from the actual known porn or softcore stars, the only one I thought was at all likely to be the person advertised was Chuck Connors. Most didn't pass the common sense rule (e.g., the "Barbra Streisand" one had to hold her face in an awkward position since she only really looked like her from one direction).
Posted by Mgmax
at April 15, 2008 7:57 AM
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Mgmax
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"and that guy ain't one of the Kennedys."
Plus, you missed a chance to say "And that guy is no Jack Kennedy."
Posted by Mgmax
at April 15, 2008 7:59 AM
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storymark
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p.Vice:" Maybe I'd go that high for double-penetration, but a blowjob's just not exploitive enough to demand that kind of coin..."
Well, after being asked repeatedly, I guess we all now know one thing p.Vice likes.
Posted by storymark
at April 15, 2008 9:39 AM
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Adonis
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Here's the real question: Does Wells email the owner of this stag film to ask for a nice freeze frame to add to his collection?
Posted by Adonis
at April 15, 2008 9:34 PM
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