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Cloverfield [BLU-RAY] (Paramount Home Entertainment, 6.3.2008) Disguised under deliberately goofy, yet deliciously edible-sounding, aliases such as Cheese and Slusho, Matt Reeves' Cloverfield was produced and rushed into theaters under an equally appetizing shroud of secrecy. From last year's incredibly elusive Super Bowl ad to the film's viral marketing campaign, Cloverfield had everybody scratching their heads and drooling in anticipation. Aside from the as-yet untitled title and the Blair Witch-ian visual style, the film's biggest appeal was the enigmatic creature who was last (un)seen hurling the decapitated head of the Statue of Liberty onto the crowded streets of New York City. All we knew about the mysterious beast was that it was big and angry. Now that the highy-anticipated project has come and gone, one question has fortunately been answered: Cloverfield was a major success. (continued)

"W" Script Profiled

ABC News entertainment writer Marcus Baram has profiled Stanley Weiser's W screenplay, which Oliver Stone will begin shooting later this month, in some detail. At the end of the piece he quotes Bush's former press secretary Ari Fleisher (who denies, amazingly, that Bush used salty language), myself and University of North Carolina at Wilmington history professor Robert Brent Toplin, who wrote "Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11: How One Film Divided a Nation."

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on April 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM

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Richardson Author Profile Page says ...

This is an April Fool's joke, right?

"The first scene, in which Bush and his advisers brainstorm different terms to describe their global enemies, from "Axis of Hatred" to "Axis of Unbearably Odious," "

" Drinking vodka mixed with orange juice out of a trash can at the DKE frat house"

or pretty much any line of dialogue quoted in that article.

Posted by Richardson Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 11:50 AM

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Aguirre Author Profile Page says ...

has to be a joke. sure the dialog is superbly silly, but it's the traditional biopic structure (which methinks would be a horrendous decision) that is the dead giveaway. if not, this film is gonna be worse than a 3rd W. term.

Posted by Aguirre Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 12:03 PM

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actionman Author Profile Page says ...

Wells....you read the script...is this a joke or not?

Posted by actionman Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 12:25 PM

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Terry McCarty Author Profile Page says ...

"The first scene, in which Bush and his advisers brainstorm different terms to describe their global enemies, from "Axis of Hatred" to "Axis of Unbearably Odious," "

Sounds like a Monty Python sketch.

Posted by Terry McCarty Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 12:39 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

"Sounds like a Monty Python sketch."

Axis of the Meaner-than-Idi-Amin-though-not-Quite-as-Naughty-as-Hitler.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 12:44 PM

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corey3rd Author Profile Page says ...

after watching Bush's War on Frontline, I think these terms were bounced around by the marketing mavens that control Bush speak. These were the guys who had to junk "Operation Iraqi Liberation."

Remember that this is an Ivy League school - those kids can afford to buy a garbage can full of orange juice - unlike the garbage cans of Purple Jesus that my state school provided.

Posted by corey3rd Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 12:50 PM

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Bilge Author Profile Page says ...

If this is not a joke, then the finished film certainly will be.

Posted by Bilge Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 12:56 PM

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Richardson Author Profile Page says ...

"but it's the traditional biopic structure"

I was going to argue that it's too non-linear to be traditional, but I guess that is the new trend, isn't it?

I was thinking that it sounds as if it's blatantly aping 'Nixon', only with really horrible dialogue.

But, honestly, I hope that the entire project is an April Fool's joke. There was a time when I would see anything with Stone's name on it, and I will still argue the merits of his work, even as late as 'Any Given Sunday'. But everything about this project sounds like it's just a desperate bid to recapture the controversy button Stone once had his finger on.

Posted by Richardson Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 1:02 PM

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Richardson Author Profile Page says ...

"after watching Bush's War on Frontline, I think these terms were bounced around by the marketing mavens that control Bush speak. These were the guys who had to junk "Operation Iraqi Liberation." "

That's not close to comprable. Even the guys who thought going to war with Iraq was a good idea could not have thought that "Axis of Unbearably Odious" was a good idea.

As Walter Matthau once said, "That dog won't hunt."

"Remember that this is an Ivy League school - those kids can afford to buy a garbage can full of orange juice"

Granted, but when a description of the script describes him as drinking screwdrivers "out of a garbage can", in an already questionable article, the phrasing alone makes it sound like a joke.

Posted by Richardson Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 1:05 PM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

I'm skeptical this can be a good movie and was getting more worried reading the article - until it came to the point it was obviously a joke.

The depictions of W's relationship with his dad and Rumsfeld (afraid to attack Iraq?!) are at odds with the people in Bob Woodward's books on Bush.

I was 100% on to the joke by the time I read, "When he hears about French Prime Minister Jacques Chirac's desire to give weapons inspectors 30 more days to work in Iraq, Bush explodes: "Thirty days! I'd like to stuff a plate of freedom fries down that slick piece of s--'s throat!"

Funny, though.

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 1:06 PM

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SmilingPolitely Author Profile Page says ...

April Fools, bitches!

Posted by SmilingPolitely Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 1:12 PM

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corey3rd Author Profile Page says ...

You do not drink the entire garbage can. You just mix them up in the garbage can. Did you not go to college?

people do throw out dumb words in hope that somewhere there's that little mcnugget of genius that can be retooled for the big idea.

Posted by corey3rd Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 1:24 PM

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Richardson Author Profile Page says ...

"You do not drink the entire garbage can. You just mix them up in the garbage can. Did you not go to college?"

I agree with your experience, you do not drink the garbage can. That's why saying that he is drinking from the garbage can strikes me as ridiculous.

"people do throw out dumb words in hope that somewhere there's that little mcnugget of genius that can be retooled for the big idea."

I can't tell if you're arguing that (a) it's going to be in the real script / movie, or (b) that it's a plausible detail to include in the script / movie.

Either way, I would strongly disagree if the consensus hadn't already agreed with me that the script as described is a joke.

Posted by Richardson Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 3:23 PM

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York "Budd" Durden Author Profile Page says ...

I knew this was a joke when it came to the Rummy stuff. He was talking about going into Iraq from moment one of this misbegotten administration.

Unless of course Stone has been paid off with a lifetime supply of shrooms and doses and tequila to whitewash the whole thing into some kind of black comedy/earnest biopic.

Posted by York "Budd" Durden Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 3:29 PM

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Armin Tamzarian Author Profile Page says ...

only skimmed this article, but it seems to match up pretty well with my recollection of the draft i read last month. overall, i found the script to feel kind of a like a decent TV movie -- well-written but nothing too controversial or illuminating. not something you'd necessarily trek to the cinema to see.

Posted by Armin Tamzarian Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 3:29 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

The War, Inc. trailer got uploaded. Looks ok, but once again, Team America got there first. http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2008/STUVWXYZ/War-Inc/trailer.php

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at April 1, 2008 4:00 PM

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Alfredo Author Profile Page says ...

Hey guys! I was just watching this horrible Stanley Kubrick film and heard this crappy bit of dialogue: "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" Has to be an April Fool's joke, right? I mean no one could be that stupid! Oh wait...

Posted by Alfredo Author Profile Page at April 2, 2008 11:35 AM

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