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Cloverfield [BLU-RAY] (Paramount Home Entertainment, 6.3.2008) Disguised under deliberately goofy, yet deliciously edible-sounding, aliases such as Cheese and Slusho, Matt Reeves' Cloverfield was produced and rushed into theaters under an equally appetizing shroud of secrecy. From last year's incredibly elusive Super Bowl ad to the film's viral marketing campaign, Cloverfield had everybody scratching their heads and drooling in anticipation. Aside from the as-yet untitled title and the Blair Witch-ian visual style, the film's biggest appeal was the enigmatic creature who was last (un)seen hurling the decapitated head of the Statue of Liberty onto the crowded streets of New York City. All we knew about the mysterious beast was that it was big and angry. Now that the highy-anticipated project has come and gone, one question has fortunately been answered: Cloverfield was a major success. (continued)

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HE reader Dan Revill has passed along a frame capture of Aaron Eckhart's post-disfigurement Harvey Dent, taken from the high-def Dark Knight trailer. "Judging from the slight scarring seen, I'm gonna say that's not fire-induced," Revill says. "Unless [fire] leaves him charcoal faced." Down with that. I've always been an acid-in-the-face type of guy.


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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on May 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Thought I noticed something. The gun certainly indicated it was post. Awesome.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:19 PM

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Mr. Gittes Author Profile Page says ...

In the new trailer, doesn't the Joker throw Maggie Gyllenhaal off a building? Anyone else catch that?

Posted by Mr. Gittes Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:22 PM

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Jason Author Profile Page says ...

It would never happen, but if ever they rebooted Indiana Jones, I think Eckhart would kill as Indy. He has the same broad-shouldered physicality and roguish affability as Ford. Somebody needs to find this guy a great action role.

Posted by Jason Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:32 PM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

Jason, many people have thought that about Eckhart for a while now. In The Company of Men was over 10 years ago, and it's strange that his sensitive-biker dude in Erin Brockovich didn't prove to be a bigger breakthrough. Unfortunately, after that he did Nurse Betty and Possession, two films that failed to break out of the arthouse sector. I don't know if he was offered bigger projects, but I have to imagine he turned down other stuff to continue working with Neil LaBute.

I guess Thank You For Smoking is another one that got full use of his charisma, but that didn't manage to breakout either. And we know how well The Black Dahlia did.

I agree with your assessment, and the difference between him and Harrison Ford is that Eckhart is a MUCH better actor.

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:42 PM

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NickF Author Profile Page says ...

I'm surprised that they left they Rachel tossing frame in the trailer. It clarifies why Batman is "sad" according to the Jokerized trailer and why Dent is out for revenge.

Posted by NickF Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:42 PM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

A big assumption there, Nick. Just because Rachel may get thrown off a building doesn't mean she's not rescued.

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:45 PM

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Aladdin Sane Author Profile Page says ...

Thanks for posting my grab Jeff! Glad it was of some service.

Posted by Aladdin Sane Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:50 PM

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Jeffrey Kunze Author Profile Page says ...

To anyone's who read the script, Rachel does indeed die at the hands of the Joker at about half-way through the film.

Posted by Jeffrey Kunze Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:52 PM

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Wiggumx Author Profile Page says ...

Thanks Jeffrey! Now please spoil the rest of the movie, too, idiot! Maybe, for your next act, you can come over and tell my kid there's no Santa Claus!

Posted by Wiggumx Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 3:57 PM

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Jason Author Profile Page says ...

Jeffrey, you're like Rex Kramer, Danger Seeker, in the Kentucky Fried Movie. You better run fast, squirrel.

Lazarus, I think Ford is a fine actor, versatile in comedy and drama. My only misgiving about him is his narrow and utilitarian view of his screen persona that led him into his "Wife Force One" rut.

Posted by Jason Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 4:14 PM

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storymark Author Profile Page says ...

I'd like to extend Mr. Jeffrey Kuntze a big Fuck You.

Posted by storymark Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 4:27 PM

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actionman Author Profile Page says ...

I have a feeling that The Dark Knight will be a masterpiece.

Posted by actionman Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 4:32 PM

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Josh Massey Author Profile Page says ...

To anyone who read this thread, Jeffrey Kunze is a royal twat. And damn near illiterate, given his sentence structure.

Posted by Josh Massey Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 4:37 PM

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alynch Author Profile Page says ...

Fuck You Jeffrey Kunze. It's people like you that give child rapists a bad name.

Posted by alynch Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 4:47 PM

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scooterzz Author Profile Page says ...

wells -- why not delete the kunze comment before it ruins things for someone else (you've certainly deleted comments for less)...

Posted by scooterzz Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 5:17 PM

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Jeffrey Kunze Author Profile Page says ...

Take it easy guys, I was obviously JOKING, you fanboys take everything so seriously. I don't even know if the script is out there to read and if I did I certainly wouldn't read it and spoil it for everyone.

Once again, I was just joking, curious to see if you guys would actually take me seriously.

J-O-K-I-N-G

Posted by Jeffrey Kunze Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 5:18 PM

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Mr. Gittes Author Profile Page says ...

OT: Christian Bale needs to bail out of Terminator. I can't believe he's involved with that crap.

Posted by Mr. Gittes Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 5:19 PM

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Wrecktum Author Profile Page says ...

I can't wait for this shite movie to open so that you nerd fanboys (Wells included) will finally stop fucking talking about it.

And when this unremittingly grim, 3 hour S&M fantasy finally underperforms, discussion can continue on the DC comics nerd-forum, where it belongs.

Posted by Wrecktum Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 5:33 PM

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MeekayD Author Profile Page says ...

Getting back to the actual topic of the post, I could've sworn I actually saw in the new trailer a blink-and-you'll-miss-it shot of Eckhart's face being held to the floor with a pool of something he didn't like creeping toward it. The theory would seem to be confirmed.

Posted by MeekayD Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 5:56 PM

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AHFan Author Profile Page says ...

Too bad it was just a joke Jeffrey! I was actually getting even more excited to see this film! Darn! ;p

Posted by AHFan Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 6:11 PM

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Jack Price Author Profile Page says ...

Maybe you all can trigger my memory on this, but has there ever been material specifically shot for a trailer that was only intended to throw off the obsessive frame-by-frame scrutiny of the fanboy demographic? Material so blatantly misleading in alluding to a character's fate, it makes you anticipate one conclusion when the true reality of the film can effectively suckerpunch you?

If not, I'd say that the Rachel-toss would be a terrific intro into this line of mis-marketing. Same for the Harvey Dent/gasoline shot if the acid burn is what really does it.

Like imagine if the trailer for No Country for Old Men ended with an epic standoff between Chigurh and Llewelyn at the motel, or Sheriff Bell firing his gun at Chigurh for that matter.

I'm talking THAT level of manipulation.

Alas, I'm sure that's not the case here, and whatevers in the trailer is in the film. For now, though, I'll treat Ms. Dodson's fall like any one of Mary Jane's innumerable falls... nothing's certain at this point (for us).

Posted by Jack Price Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 6:33 PM

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Aladdin Sane Author Profile Page says ...

Ms Dodson? You mean Rachel Dawes? ;-)

Posted by Aladdin Sane Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 7:42 PM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

Wrecktum, exactly which summer film DOES deserve any kind of extended discussion?

It's probably going to be the most dense thing hitting multiplexes until the fall, no?

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 9:28 PM

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CarloDennis Author Profile Page says ...

Did anyone else spot who's behind the wheel of the car that Batman crashes onto from above?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/daledennis80/Picture1.png

Yeah, it was confirmed he's in the movie long ago, but it's cool nonetheless...

Posted by CarloDennis Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 9:48 PM

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Jack Price Author Profile Page says ...

Alladin Sane - You're right. I was reading the original draft of Batman Begins, and in the first draft her last name is "Dodson." Something didn't seem right about that...

http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Batman-Begins.html

Posted by Jack Price Author Profile Page at May 4, 2008 9:59 PM

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Midwest Doug Author Profile Page says ...

Don't see how it's acid. The trailer shows a bottle spill with stuff that looks like gasoline. Eckhart is lying left-cheek down in the stuff, yelling "No!". If it was acid, he'd be screaming in agony. So I go with gasoline, and the "No!" is him screaming for whomever not to drop the match.

Posted by Midwest Doug Author Profile Page at May 5, 2008 8:27 AM

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Leonardcoenbrothers Author Profile Page says ...

I also heard that the batmobile will lose a wheel, and the Joker gets away.

Posted by Leonardcoenbrothers Author Profile Page at May 5, 2008 8:57 AM

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thorsen1nk Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, fuck you very much Jeffrey Kuntze. I hope your mom gets raped by HIV-positive escaped convicts and your cat gets run over by a bus.

HOWEVER, it is also very uncool for them to include that in the trailer. I am so GD sick of the whole movie being ruined in trailers.

Posted by thorsen1nk Author Profile Page at May 5, 2008 11:47 AM

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thorsen1nk Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, fuck you very much Jeffrey Kuntze. I hope your mom gets raped by HIV-positive escaped convicts and your cat gets run over by a bus.

HOWEVER, it is also very uncool for them to include that in the trailer. I am so GD sick of the whole movie being ruined in trailers. I loved the fact that in Batman Begins, you wouldn't even know it was a batman movie until 1/2-way through it.

Posted by thorsen1nk Author Profile Page at May 5, 2008 11:48 AM

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JasonGeyer Author Profile Page says ...

HUGE SPOILER!!!! in link below.

Might be acid. Might be gas. Not pretty either way:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/litg/2008/0505/dent_tdk.jpg

Posted by JasonGeyer Author Profile Page at May 5, 2008 2:56 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

They've pulled the image at Comic Book Resources, but it's still up at AICN. As Jason said, HUGE SPOILER. But it's exactly what Eckhart was describing in the interview.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at May 6, 2008 6:25 AM

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