comment #1

p.Vice says ...

You gotta keep it beatin' for all the hoppin cretins

comment #2

D.Z. says ...

Edwards is still full of it, though:

Edwards also praised Clinton, saying "we are a stronger party" because of her involvement, and "we're going to have a stronger nominee in the fall because of her work."

He said Clinton is a "woman who is made of steel. She is a leader in this country not because of her husband but because of what she has done."

More at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_el_pr/obama_edwards;_ylt=Av8F2UO8u1590GMmgWurzNms0NUE

comment #3

rockne says ...

Has anyone seen the monkey shirt the cretin in Georgia created? There's a pic of Curious George eating a banana and underneath it says: Obama '08.
Seriously. This guy was so blindly racist...and he was telling the boys to get off his property...people will never cease to amaze me...this type of thing would die and only live in cretin-land were it not for the insatiable need for news. This guy should not be on the news saying: "It's not racist...I saw the ears and the hairline and I just thought it was a good likeness...
Again, I would vote and fight for Mr. Wells idea of utopia instead of the shit-hole cretin mess we're in now.

comment #4

Jay T. says ...

Even if Hillary Clinton loses, her and her husband carry a lot of weight and it wouldn't be smart of Edwards to diss her.

As for your previous bashing of Edwards, do you remember when I said it's entirely possible he already agreed to endorse Obama and the two of them decided it would be best to save that as a late boost when/if Obama needed it? No proof this is so, but it's not that far fetched...

comment #5

CinemaPhreek says ...

So, I guess all those "Who cares about Edwards" posts of a few weeks back was just childish rantings that he wasn't conducting himself how YOU thought he should?

From everything I've read, Edwards cares about his issues and like any smart person should, he wasn't about to piss on someone who might help him address them. As long as Clinton had a shot, he had to bid his time.

comment #6

Josh Massey says ...

Edwards showed true character and bravery by speaking his mind when the outcome was so in doubt. Bravo, good sir!

comment #7

D.Z. says ...

Jay: He didn't have to trash her, but he sure as hell can come up with a statement people actually believe.

Phreek: I doubt Jeff cares about Edwards being agreeable as much as showing some backbone. I gotta agree more with Josh, though.

comment #8

royalonemn says ...

Edwards: the Opportunist.
And the Obama Campaign is such a calculating machine themselves. I wouldn't trust David Axelrod as far as I could throw him. Same old political wolf in sheep's clothing.
At least the Clintons don't try to disguise there ambitions and deceit.
Black man who will NOT be voting for the lying, manipulating cult that is Obama!

comment #9

Edward says ...

I spent four good years in the mountain state. Drank me some fine moonshine and smoked me some awsome weed. Great folks live there.

comment #10

D.Z. says ...

royal: "At least the Clintons don't try to disguise there ambitions and deceit."

"I did not have sexual relations" isn't disguising anything?

"Black man who will NOT be voting for the lying, manipulating cult that is Obama!"

What will he do without you, Mr. Elder?

comment #11

vp19 says ...

I like John Edwards -- he was initially my first choice for the nomination, as he seemed more progressive on economic issues than either Obama or Clinton -- but this move, now? John, you've gone to the parimutuel window while the horses are in the homestretch.

comment #12

ElstonGunnAICN says ...

I'm from WV and believe it or not, there are actually some progressive intellectuals in the state. Narrow-minded generalizations help no one.

comment #13

Josh says ...

Way to be on the ball Edwards. He couldnt do this last week before North Carolina? He couldnt do this before West Va? Maybe Super Tuesday?

That John Edwards. Still the King of the Frauds.

comment #14

lionsfan says ...

"Downmarket racist rubes" is really a pretty dumb, snobbish thing to say.

Or do you also associate Senator Rockefeller with this crowd, Jeff? (You are, however, welcome to the former Klansman who remains a WV Senator.)

comment #15

CinemaPhreek says ...

"'Downmarket racist rubes' is really a pretty dumb, snobbish thing to say."

Very much so - until you see the multiple brazen admissions by those not-so-intellectual-progressives that they just weren't going to be voting for any "coloreds" in this or any other century and no amount of scorn would suffice.

comment #16

tommysunshine says ...

OMG! Anybody read the NY Times piece this morning about the Republican plight. Made me want to crack open the cyanide.

McCain's been having a bumpy ride lately but I for one have not torn up my ticket to get on board the straight talk express. Obama says some nice things but the bottom line is it's just cute nonsense to try and be a spirit of the age and get elected. It's the new new old politics, a glitteringly wrapped empty box.

My man McCain on the other hand will help the poor improve their livelihood and prevent the rich from getting oppressed. He's the only one of the three who doesn't put ideas before people.

comment #17

CinemaPhreek says ...

tommysunshine - what a perfect name for someone who goes around attempting to convince everyone Obama has come to River City selling trombones while ignoring oh-so-unstraight talk of his guy.

I could tell you to go back to 2000 and see how Mr. Straight Talk handled being slandered by his opponent.

Or how about in the last couple of weeks where he hugs the man who did it one week, then bemoans one his policies the next. Yet, when it counted, never made any sort of stand against him that counted.

Like this week's pander on the environment. Mr. Straight Talk was pretty fucking silent on it until very recently. I will give him credit though - can't believe he can say what he says about Kyoto accords these days with straight face. Maybe that's what the "Straight Talk" really refers to...

comment #18

D.Z. says ...

tommy: "McCain's been having a bumpy ride lately but I for one have not torn up my ticket to get on board the straight talk express."

Yes, five more years of war and recession. I can't wait.

"Obama says some nice things but the bottom line is it's just cute nonsense to try and be a spirit of the age and get elected."

He should promise victory in 2013 like McCain.

"My man McCain on the other hand will help the poor improve their livelihood"

You mean the same poor he helped rip off during the Keating scandal?

"and prevent the rich from getting oppressed."

Yes, those rich Tibetans, Burmans, and Sudanese really have it rough.

comment #19

D.Z. says ...

BTW, enough already with the "Obama can't win" meme! If Republicans are losing ground in districts where they were *popular*, explain how the hell a "respectable" guy like McCain going to be President.

comment #20

Mgmax says ...

Obama can't win, but fortunately neither can a Republican, so it evens out.

God, how many more months of this?

comment #21

tommysunshine says ...

Sad fact is Mgmax that if an election was held tomorrow, McCain would probably lose and we would be right back in January '93 with a democrat nightmare unfolding before our disbelieving eyes.

comment #22

D.Z. says ...

tommy: "McCain would probably lose and we would be right back in January '93 with a democrat nightmare unfolding before our disbelieving eyes."

Yeah, a robust economy and a country at peace are really nightmarish...

comment #23

Mgmax says ...

Tommy, see the difference here is, I'm not a Republican. I'm a classical liberal, believing in limited government, individualism, equality before the law, the scientific method, free markets, that man has certain inalienable rights among them life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, long slow kisses that last three days...

So I don't regard the Clinton years as our long national nightmare of sleaze. I think Clinton's foreign policy helped lead to 9/11, as did Bush's in those early months, but I don't believe in the perfect ability of government to do ANYTHING, so I suppose even if the Gorelick wall hadn't kept the FBI and CIA from sharing info, we probably wouldn't have stopped it. I mean, if somebody's determined to get you and keeps trying, one of these days, they probably will. But anyway, the Eisenhower Republicanism of the Clinton years seemed pretty good to me, arguably better and freer economically than the Johnsonian "compassionate conservatism" of big-spenders Bush and the Congress of the last eight years. And while Clinton was a reckless horndog and deserved all the humiliation he got, the idea of impeaching somebody for that kind of stuff was just asinine. Frankly, if we were really going back to that kind of moderation with a side of scandal, I'd be okay with it. But we're looking at the probable election of a left-center big government liberal seeking to throw money heedlessly at everything from global warming to illegal immigrants. Or if McCain doesn't win, then Obama might turn out to do some of the same things. So I see the nanny state getting bigger and encroaching our lives in more and more ways, but unfortunately, I don't see anybody running on the ideas I prefer, and so our inevitable slide into a state of being wards of the state (before the Chinese finally come and annex the whole country) can only be decried, not prevented, in this election cycle at least.

comment #24

bb says ...

If Edwards had any less backbone he'd be classified an invertebrate.

And after Obama's expression of outrage today, he's proving to have the thinnest skin in presidential campaign history. How is the guy going to find time to be president when he spends all his time with his panties in a twist?

comment #25

D.Z. says ...

Mgmax: "I think Clinton's foreign policy helped lead to 9/11,"

Yes, warning Bush about Osama was his fault

"so I suppose even if the Gorelick wall hadn't kept the FBI and CIA from sharing info,"

The only info those organizations were ever good at sharing was tax information of anti-war protesters.

"we probably wouldn't have stopped it."

Yeah, being warned months in advance just wasn't enough time.

"And while Clinton was a reckless horndog and deserved all the humiliation he got, "

You mean he deserved it, because he wasn't a Republican horndog like Craig.

"But we're looking at the probable election of a left-center big government liberal seeking to throw money heedlessly"

Those trillions in debt we're in is so much more fiscally responsible.

"from global warming"

I know, because it doesn't exist, even though Bush admitted it does, and had to make the polar bear an endangered species because of it.

"to illegal immigrants."

Who cares if they do the jobs we don't want to do ourselves, and if they intentionally get paid less for it than an American, because we threaten them with deportation? Let's kick them out when we don't need them anymore. Oh, wait, the Southwest originally belonged to them.

bb: "And after Obama's expression of outrage today, he's proving to have the thinnest skin in presidential campaign history."

You don't seem to get that It's tough enough being black, but that it's worse being black and being called a traitor. Just ask MLK.

"How is the guy going to find time to be president when he spends all his time with his panties in a twist?"

I imagine everyone who hates him will be in the hospital suffering from coronaries when they find out he wins.

comment #26

Mgmax says ...

Damn, the DZ-bot is back, just responding to phrases automatically with the standard boilerplate instead of trying to actually fathom what someone is saying. Thus he winds up making refutations... which agree with my original arguments, and doesn't even realize it.