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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on May 15, 2008 at 9:39 PM
comment #1
EricGilde
says ...
Holy.
Shit.
Posted by EricGilde
at May 15, 2008 10:00 PM
comment #2
Adonis
says ...
Very entertaining... excruciating to listen to... but entertaining.
Not unlike watching Jackass where the huge fat guy is chasing after the little midget.
Thanks for the post, Wells.
Posted by Adonis
at May 15, 2008 10:01 PM
comment #3
hiviper
says ...
Kevin James = MO of entire Fox talking heads.
You put the Rush's and Sean's and O'Reilly's up against anybody who is informed about current events and history, they will lose. They just have the good sense to not get cornered, like this imbecile.
Posted by hiviper
at May 15, 2008 10:09 PM
comment #4
D.Z.
says ...
Speaking of a campaign staff-member working with terrorists...http://www.crooksandliars.com/index.php?s=Jaw
Posted by D.Z.
at May 15, 2008 10:23 PM
comment #5
D.Z.
says ...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/index.php?s=Jawad
Fixed.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 15, 2008 10:24 PM
comment #6
Craptastic
says ...
Matthews is one of the few out there who will actually call people on their bullshit live on the air. He's got his flaws but I love the guy.
Posted by Craptastic
at May 15, 2008 11:21 PM
comment #7
Marty Melville
says ...
So this is the crap the monkeys will be flinging this fall (McCain's outburst/volley today was a more "nuanced" approach and Bush's Nazi remarks were not disappointing in their chimpazee droppings)...
God, this election is gonna be fugly.
Posted by Marty Melville
at May 16, 2008 12:10 AM
comment #8
Walter Sobchak
says ...
There are geniuses and idiots on both sides of the political spectrum, and Kevin James is, quite simply, a complete and total moron. (and I'm saying this as a conservative).
His act on KRLA here in L.A. is a tired old, ratings baiting, endless rant about "eeleeguhl aleeuns". He's a dumb-ass.
There are boneheads on the right, (James, Savage, Hannity most of the time), and there are smart people as well.
Kevin James was a fish in a barrel. Michael Medved or Doug MacEntire on the other hand wouldn't have been as easy pickin's.
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 12:45 AM
comment #9
Walter Sobchak
says ...
By the way, Matthews wasn't that on-the-ball himself. In his (somewhat deserved) self-righteousness over correcting James' lack of history, he falsely state that the U.S.S. Cole incident happened under Bush.
Wrong. October 2000. Under Clinton. (just thought I'd point that out)
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 12:54 AM
comment #10
Mjs
says ...
That was the highlight of my day.
Posted by Mjs
at May 16, 2008 12:54 AM
comment #11
Drew
says ...
It's an amazing piece of television by any standards. James may be a fish in a barrel, but he's a fish who put himself in the barrel... who absolutely begs to be in the barrel. It's bug-on-a-pin, slow-death hilarious.
Posted by Drew
at May 16, 2008 2:48 AM
comment #12
swordandpen
says ...
It's always funny to know how these professional loudmouth pundits just mouth empty rhetoric and really don't know anything about history. They clearly never thought about why they believe what they believe.
Posted by swordandpen
at May 16, 2008 4:01 AM
comment #13
T. S. Idiot
says ...
At what point did all American airheads start using the redundant, ungrammatical "exact same"?
Posted by T. S. Idiot
at May 16, 2008 5:30 AM
comment #14
rockne
says ...
I love that rightie cretins are continuing the march over the cliff in regards to...9/11...and that democrats don't just point out, as Michael Moore did, that 9-11 happened on Bush's watch, while Bush was vacationing and getting his new "ranch" ready. If Democrats had ANY backbone, the thin veil that Bush is hiding behind would fall, and the absolute ridiculous nature of the man would come to light. But...none of the major news outlets...(where middle-america cretins get their news) talk about the administration AT ALL. It's all about Obama and Clinton...hey, guys...there's still an administration f***ing things up royally...but no one talks about that. They're afraid Cheney will use Rendition and arrest them. (And before all you cretins say rendition has always been there...yes, it has, but not in the hands of criminals like Bush and Cheney.)
Can someone tell me...why if the Vice President takes control of NORAD just before 9-11...the only time that has ever happened in our history...does it get buried in USAToday on like the ninth page in a small blurb? History will hide what these cretins have done.
As was stated above, this is going to be a FUGLY election. Simply because democrats are weak and the media is complicit.
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 5:57 AM
comment #15
Walter Sobchak
says ...
Hey rockne, I'd love to read your manifesto some day. Post it somewhere I can see it, or just scrawl it onto the back of a brown paper bag and mail it to me. (just remember, do NOT use a post office within ten miles of your "home".... they're watching us...constantly)
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 8:18 AM
comment #16
tommysunshine
says ...
Am I awe at Kevin's sense of history? No.
Do I like his bellicose style? Not particularly.
Does he have good points to make about Obama and Clinton? Yes,
Is he on the side of the angels? Definitely.
Posted by tommysunshine
at May 16, 2008 9:06 AM
comment #17
rockne
says ...
Ahhh...Mr. Sobchak pulls out the tried-and-true O'Reilly "shut up you're crazy" defense. Nice one.
tommysunshine: If you mean he brings up a good point that he doesn't want to bomb the entire world without TALKING to people first, then yes.
But I'm sorry, I forgot. Left and right cretins...(though more right than left) just want to use bombs to enforce our might. Sorry. Lost my place there a moment.)
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 9:17 AM
comment #18
rockne
says ...
Sorry, Tommy Sunshine...I realize you may be a cretin, so you may not get that last idea, I wasn't really clear enough:
If you mean he brings up a good point that Obama doesn't want to bomb the world without first TALKING to people before he decides to bomb...then yes...the ignorant James is on the mark. Unfortunately, as it seems you may very well be a cretin, then he came up with a completely different point all together and this post is worthless to you and...yeah...
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 9:22 AM
comment #19
tommysunshine
says ...
Rockne, it's bad enough that you are so resistant to original thought. To then be so inarticulate- you write like Burma Shave on acid- is a real shame.
You are unable to express anything coherently but I feel your pain.
Posted by tommysunshine
at May 16, 2008 10:07 AM
comment #20
Mr. Buckles
says ...
Tommy,
Do you have a grasp of what diplomacy means?
Are you aware that both Gates and Rice have acknowledged the need to have diplomacy with Iran.
Get... this... straight, diplomacy does not equal surrender, does not equal appeasement, does not equal weakness.
Posted by Mr. Buckles
at May 16, 2008 10:14 AM
comment #21
rockne
says ...
Hey, maybe I am Burma Shave on acid...think about it...
Would you have broken the vase if I hadn't said anything?
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 10:17 AM
comment #22
Mgmax
says ...
"he falsely state that the U.S.S. Cole incident happened under Bush. Wrong. October 2000. Under Clinton."
But Bush could have prevented it if only he'd read the briefings! --D.Z.
Funny British piece on the Obamessiah:
"It's fairly clear now that, with the near-certain nomination by the Democrats of Barack Obama everything is in place for the media to indulge in one of the greatest, orgiastic media fiestas of hero-worship since Elvis Presley.
"You will not see a finer example of the genre than the cover story of this week's Newsweek, which was entitled “The O Teamâ€Â. This rhapsodic inside account of Senator Obama's campaign reads a little like a cross between Father Alban Butler's Life of St Francis and the sort of authorised biography of Kim Jong Il you can pick up in any good bookshop in Pyongyang.
"Mr Obama is portrayed throughout as an immanently benevolent figure. Not human really, more a comforting presence, a light source..."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article3941450.ece
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 11:02 AM
comment #23
Mgmax
says ...
Rockne, really, nobody listens to unparagraphed rants of indignant rage. I can tell just by looking at the mass of text that you hate Bush and think all Republicans are ignorant scum. To which there's really only two responses, lighten up and grow up. Someday you'll have opinions of your own and they'll be an amalgam of right, left, up and down that can see good and bad on all sides. Even if they're 80-20 to one side, at least you'll have thought them through and you won't dismiss the other side as pure, despicable evil, which to any intelligent person says everything about you and nothing about them.
And yes, I'd feel the same way about an anti-liberal rant and ranter.
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 11:08 AM
comment #24
tommysunshine
says ...
I'm not some RNC stooge. Far from it. But it has to be noted that America hasn't actually been governed all that badly under Republicans the last 28 years. Bush sr could have done better re economy and current Bush messed up abit over Iraq. But you shouldn't discount the domestic harmony in his first term.
There's a reason the GOP keep getting asked back to watch over America. They do the best job. Fact. Any utopian liberals who don't like that- sorry that's how it goes and you just have to deal with it
Posted by tommysunshine
at May 16, 2008 11:12 AM
comment #25
dangovich
says ...
...current Bush messed up abit over Iraq.
A bit?! A bit?!
The mind boggles.
Posted by dangovich
at May 16, 2008 11:24 AM
comment #26
rockne
says ...
A bit???!!!!
A bit??!?!!!!!
Domestic harmony?
Holy hell...those are original thoughts?
MGMAX:
Sorry, I'll remember to
make
more
paragraphs
so it's easier for you to read.
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 11:33 AM
comment #27
rockne
says ...
Oh, and Mr. Max:
Before you label people, I ranted plenty over Clinton's awful choices in the white house and his ridiculous lying about it, when we all found out he was lying.
I have indignant rage over the cretins in the white house and the cretins who believe Bush messed up "a bit".
So telling me I'm anti-republican is yet again, the enitre "Shut up, you're crazy."
Bring up something about spineless democrats, I will rage about them.
Was this easy enough for you to read?
Did I separate enough?
Let me know
Cause we're all here for you
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 11:38 AM
comment #28
Mjs
says ...
"Bush messed up abit over Iraq. But you shouldn't discount the domestic harmony in his first term. "
"a bit". Are you fucking kidding me? I guess you haven't lost a child in that idiotic war. Wow, you're more than a bit out of touch.
"There's a reason the GOP keep getting asked back to watch over America. They do the best job. Fact. Any utopian liberals who don't like that- sorry that's how it goes and you just have to deal with it"
And if we don't, are you just going to take your ball and go home? Nice try. Republicans play dirty, it's true. And many Americans are just plain stupid. That's why they have won, not because they earned it. Bush Jr never actually won an election, so that point of view is a joke.
Posted by Mjs
at May 16, 2008 11:47 AM
comment #29
Jay T.
says ...
For the record, Matthews asked if the U.S.S. Cole incident happened under Bush, implying he thought that but wasn't sure of the date.
Man, it's so great to see a windbag like Kevin James get embarrased, and now it's the hottest video on the web. Gotta love it...
Posted by Jay T.
at May 16, 2008 12:07 PM
comment #30
CinemaPhreek
says ...
Saying Kevin James is on the side of the Angels is like saying Hitler was a vegetarian.
Posted by CinemaPhreek
at May 16, 2008 12:11 PM
comment #31
Walter Sobchak
says ...
Jay T. - "for the record"... watch it again... after asking, both Matthews and Green agree that it happened under Bush... "yeah, yeah, it happened under Bush"
and just checking.... you do realize Hitler was a vegetarian, right? or is that your point?
And fellow righties, listen up... there is NO defending Kevin James... he's an ignorant dork...he doesn't do our side ANY favors.... and there's a pretty good chance he's a racsist as well... (I get hit with his lame schtick when I hear his promos on KRLA...you can almost hear Medved and Prager sigh in disbelief that they have to share radio bandwidth with him)...
Yes, rockne, I am a cretin.... so is Jay T., so is Mjs, so is Mgmax, so is D.Z., so is Jeffrey Wells, etc, We are ALL cretins.... and we're EVERYWHERE.... why don't you join us, rockne?... be one of us.... it won't hurt a bit...
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 12:28 PM
comment #32
Mgmax
says ...
Dear MJS,
Yes we know, we live in the worst economy ever, we killed millions ending the lawful democratic peaceful rule of Saddam H., and Halliburton Cheney shot Enron Prescott Bush Nazis, but apart from that, how are things?
Sincerely,
Mgmax
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 12:37 PM
comment #33
Mjs
says ...
mgmax,
Your gibberish, I suppose, is meant to be some sort of strange sarcasm. You bore me, sincerely.
Posted by Mjs
at May 16, 2008 1:08 PM
comment #34
D.Z.
says ...
tommy: "Does he have good points to make about Obama and Clinton? Yes,"
So Reagan selling weapons to Saddam, Qadaffi, and the Ayatollah is fine, but Obama talks to Ahmadinejad and Raul, and it's appeasement...
"But it has to be noted that America hasn't actually been governed all that badly under Republicans the last 28 years."
Let's see: two instances of rising gas and food prices, four recessions, illegal campaign activities, the Savings and Loan bail-out, Alaska being wrecked by the Valdez, New Orleans no longer existing, Saddam gassing Kurds and Osama getting the training he needed to blow up the WTC. Yep, not bad at all.
"There's a reason the GOP keep getting asked back to watch over America. They do the best job. Fact."
They don't get asked; they force themselves on us through negative campaigns and voter disenfranchisement.
Mgmax: "But Bush could have prevented it if only he'd read the briefings! --D.Z."
Clinton prevented the Millennium Bombing when he'd been warned about it. He also caught the perps behind the WTC and Oklahoma City Federal Building bombings. the only thing Bush did was kill a million Iraqis, turned Afghanistan into another war-zone and looked the other way when Yemen freed one of the perps behind the Cole bombing-probably because of the oil connection.
"all Republicans are ignorant scum. To which there's really only two responses, lighten up and grow up. Someday you'll have opinions of your own"
Those aren't opinions; those are facts.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 16, 2008 1:46 PM
comment #35
rockne
says ...
Oooookkkaaaaayyyyy.....
Mr. Max:
I should really end this, but your ridiculous posting is too good to pass up.
And I will attempt to do this resonably, with many breaks so you can keep up.
1. No, it isn't literally the worst economy ever. But it is one of the worst, most precipitous drops of wealth in the short history of our great country.
Mr. Cheney is on record saying that "Deficits don't matter." Well, not to people who profit most from them.
Please check out this website to see just where his ties are: (not complete, I feel, but a good start): http://mapper.nndb.com/start/?id=22532
There is documented proof that the distance between poor and rich is getting wider...yadda, yadda, yadda, but I know you're already not listening, because this is reasoning something out.
2. Your own Mr. John McCain told us our boys would never have to go to another country for oil again....huh? We went to Iraq for the oil?
Well, according to your cryptic comment...we took care of a warlord who hurt his people. No love for Africans, Mr. Max?
3. That last thing.........what the hell does that mean? You're so removed from the world as it is, you only see it as your limited dogma allows.
Who needs to grow up now?
Hope that was enough breaks for you.
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 1:46 PM
comment #36
Mgmax
says ...
It's a lovely spring day. I'm going to make trenette with pesto, green beans and new potatoes.
I also have to bake a few things for the May Fair at the kids' school tomorrow. Cranberry orange bread, maybe.
Maybe I'll watch one of the silent Ozu films Criterion just put out. Or read some of William Lee Miller's Lincoln book. (That's the sort of thing that makes you realize how small our differences really are, by historical standards.)
It's a lovely day. There will be many between now and November 4.
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 2:22 PM
comment #37
Mjs
says ...
mgmax
You're a really shitty writer, and debater. Could you have less backbone?
Posted by Mjs
at May 16, 2008 2:59 PM
comment #38
D.Z.
says ...
Mjs: It's tough for him to admit that the Iraq war is draining resources which could stop people in Sudan and Myanmar from getting slaughtered.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 16, 2008 3:05 PM
comment #39
Mgmax
says ...
From the letters column of BROADWAY ELSE-WHENCE by J. Pierpoint Wells, 1901:
Sirs,
Whither the sparrow? Does he care whether Mr. McKinley or Judge Parker wins the election? He cares not. Let us take from him a hint of such sang-froid, and stop comporting ourselves like vulgar tradesmen from the swarthier lands.
yrs, Maxwell
* * *
Maxwell--
Fie upon you! Will you not defend the blackguard McKinley, with whom you seem to have such unnatural congress?
Mjs
* * *
Sir--
Name the hour, and we shall settle this with horsewhips. For, in your self-seriousness and hotheaded temperament, you have most certainly shown yourself to be that part of the equine anatomy for which it was designed.
yrs,
Maxwell
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 3:12 PM
comment #40
Mr. Buckles
says ...
MGM,
I don't dislike McCain but I am going to pukeif he continues to get a free pass on the maverick label or that he bucks party conventions. The link to the Times Online piece is fantastical really.
McCain got to this point by doing exactly the opposite if you haven't been paying attention. All the major points where he once challenged positions, he's come back into line like a good liitle school boy (taxes, abortion, torture, Hamas, campaign finance reform, etc.).
Just sayin' is all.
Posted by Mr. Buckles
at May 16, 2008 3:34 PM
comment #41
dinther
says ...
Why does everyone assume that James somehow got "smacked down"? He scored major points with the Republican base, shouting and namecalling as he did.
Republicans pride themselves on their ignorance; to them, the one who shouts the loudest wins, right? Finesse, details, "knowledge" is for wussies. So is conceding that your enemies are human. Much better to see the world in podalities, in black and white and us versus them, good and evil. We've had seven years of Republicans telling us this is the way the world is, and look -- things are MUCH better now.
James is probably at home right now in his basement, watching the clip repeatedly, masturbating to the sound of his own voice.
Posted by dinther
at May 16, 2008 4:16 PM
comment #42
Mgmax
says ...
This is like lefty self-caricature day.
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 5:20 PM
comment #43
D.Z.
says ...
Mgmax: So McCain's a lefty, too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzDBi2nURNk&feature=related
Posted by D.Z.
at May 16, 2008 6:23 PM
comment #44
Walter Sobchak
says ...
Such sporting fun!
(policy and debate aside)
It's a hoot knowing that right now Mgmax has a sly, bemused grin on his face while the lefties ("don't call us Liberal!") on here are grinding their teeth, turning beet-red and blasting steam out of their ears in vessel-bursting anger.
(this is usually where D.Z. points out something goofy, such as how it's the United States' fault that Myanmar won't allow relief aid in...)
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 6:40 PM
comment #45
Walter Sobchak
says ...
Come on, D.Z. Don't let me down.
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 6:44 PM
comment #46
JaySmack
says ...
The really sad part is this deranged @sshole is the more articulate of the Obama-bashers.
This interview proves how irrational the Obama-hater have become.
"Why do you hate Obama?"
"...He's WEAK! He's Un-American! He's...He's...He's a Muslim!!!"
"Bush is 'weak.' Rev Wright is 'un-ameircan' and Casey Kasem is a muslim. Want to tell me why you hate Obama?"
"F*ck you, he's a muslim! And this is America! I can hate anyone I want to! And the reason I hate him is because...because...because I just DO!"
Behold, the wisdom of the anti-Obama crowd. They hate him because they just do.
Posted by JaySmack
at May 16, 2008 6:54 PM
comment #47
frankbooth
says ...
"I'm going to make trenette with pesto, green beans and new potatoes."
And hog jowls! Don't forget the hog jowls!
Posted by frankbooth
at May 16, 2008 6:56 PM
comment #48
Mgmax
says ...
It's a hoot knowing that right now Mgmax has a sly, bemused grin on his face while the lefties ("don't call us Liberal!") on here are grinding their teeth, turning beet-red and blasting steam out of their ears in vessel-bursting anger.
Walter, don't you realize that this is THE MOST important election in American history as we must undo ALL the damage done by that hitlerchimp Bu$h and his evil underwear-sharing Alfred the butler Cheney during seven long years of alienating EVERY country in the world, destroying THE economy, totally wrecking NEW Orleans and doing nothing to help starving PEOPLE in Darfur while at the same TIME turning mothers against daughters and mailmen against UPS drivers through his policies of deliberate unmitigated planet destruction WHICH you'll never hear about on Fawkes Noose because Republiscrotums ARE too dumb, stupid, retarded and evil to share a love for our planet and every creature ON it which is why they all deserve to be burned alive and only the Obama, the blessed Obama, can save us in this time of country and BRING love to our hearts unlike that stone cold bitch Hillareek who is trying to steal the election which is the divine right of the blessed Obama through his father's lineage from the kings of Lesotho, making this the most important election we have ever had and ever will have even though you Repukelicunts will never understand the blessed nature of it and how incredibly crucial it is to reviving hope and love which is why I am in such a hurry that I have to type this without paragraph breaks in the hope that maybe just one of your retard encephalitic maggot-infested shiteating Resputumlicumshots can begin to understand how Edwards, I mean Obama is the one true prophet as predicted by Tom Cruise and has made me the witty, erudite, well-read fellow I am and if you don't understand it then FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 7:12 PM
comment #49
D.Z.
says ...
Walter: Nothing wrong with being a lefty, as http://www.sinistershop.com/Famous.htm will attest. And the fact that Republicans act that way, when they think no one's looking, re-enforces how worthless conservatism is in a real-life situation. As for Myanmar, it's the fault of the Bush-run U.S. continuing to ignore and/or downplay global warming which has led to even more deaths in that region. That, and sending all our forces in the Koreas to Iraq...
Posted by D.Z.
at May 16, 2008 7:18 PM
comment #50
Walter Sobchak
says ...
"This interview proves how irrational the Obama-hater have become.
"Why do you hate Obama?"
"...He's WEAK! He's Un-American! He's...He's...He's a Muslim!!!"
"Bush is 'weak.' Rev Wright is 'un-ameircan' and Casey Kasem is a muslim. Want to tell me why you hate Obama?"
"F*ck you, he's a muslim! And this is America! I can hate anyone I want to! And the reason I hate him is because...because...because I just DO!""
That's a very alarming, damning, telling and eye-opening interview you've transcribed for us, JaySmack
Imagine how alarming it would've been if it had actually happened.
Seriously, what was that, something you overheard on the subway?
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 7:20 PM
comment #51
rockne
says ...
Hey, Mr. Max....ummmm....yeah. Pretty much that's the most thought-out thing you've typed yet...well done. You finally see things clearly.
Oh, you were being fecitious...? Go back to your trailer and jerk off to field and stream while you dream of how the Republicans will fight gay marriage and keep you safe from Liberals who want to take away your guns. Cause we all know those are important issues.
And Sobchak...? Yeah, I'm bursting blood vessels in anger over two hopped-up rednecks laughing to each other cause the "smarties are gettin' all worked up"
Oh, and if I spoke wrongly, and you don't live in a trailer, Mr. Max, then you sure speak below your station.
Posted by rockne
at May 16, 2008 7:22 PM
comment #52
Walter Sobchak
says ...
God DAMN I love you, D.Z.!
Just when I think you might be a no-show BAM!, you knock it out of the park!
So if our troops had not been in Korea or Iraq they might've been able to fight back and kill the cyclone? Okay. I'll buy that.
Posted by Walter Sobchak
at May 16, 2008 7:22 PM
comment #53
Mgmax
says ...
"As for Myanmar, it's the fault of the Bush-run U.S."
Ahh, a perfect note of sublime lunacy to end the evening on. We will leave D.Z. to planning the invasion and the longterm peacekeeping mission; will we be there a hundred years, do you think?
Posted by Mgmax
at May 16, 2008 7:23 PM
comment #54
D.Z.
says ...
Walter: Actually, I said if we acknowledged global warming sooner and we went into Burma the way we went into Bosnia, there'd be less deaths.
Mgmax: Wasn't it whittled down to five years now?
Posted by D.Z.
at May 16, 2008 7:33 PM
comment #55
D.Z.
says ...
Sorry, Bosnia=Yugoslavia. The heat got to me.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 16, 2008 7:35 PM
comment #56
Mjs
says ...
"It's a hoot knowing that right now Mgmax has a sly, bemused grin on his face while the lefties ("don't call us Liberal!") on here are grinding their teeth, turning beet-red and blasting steam out of their ears in vessel-bursting anger."
I couldn't be less angry. I have a sly, bemused grin on my face because I know the reason mgmax writes and debates the way that he does. He has no backbone. No guts. He's Trey Parker and Matt Stone without the humor.
Posted by Mjs
at May 16, 2008 10:48 PM
comment #57
Mgmax
says ...
Who was it that was trying to bait me a few weeks ago by posting some thing over and over which I had supposedly failed to respond to, thus proving that I was a chickencon neohawk or something? I've already forgotten the name of the little twerp.
Anyway, if you'd pay more attention, you'd realize that you already got all the response your argument was ever going to get, just in a different form (bemused and amusing rather than ploddingly literal). If that does not satisfy you, please send your request for a refund to:
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Oh, and I would like everyone to note that D. "We bombed a million billion Iraqis!" Z. has just endorsed an aerial campaign to open up Burma. Ah, the firm moral principles of the anti-Bush lefty.
Posted by Mgmax
at May 17, 2008 4:29 AM
comment #58
Mjs
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No backbone. Hopefully you don't live your life that way. Later.
Posted by Mjs
at May 17, 2008 10:58 AM
comment #59
D.Z.
says ...
Mgmax: "Oh, and I would like everyone to note that D. "We bombed a million billion Iraqis!" Z. has just endorsed an aerial campaign to open up Burma. Ah, the firm moral principles of the anti-Bush lefty."
I've got no problems with intervention when interests other than those of our own corporations are threatened. There are many more consistent lefties than myself who will say that what we did in Yugoslavia is as bad as what we did in Iraq, but since we actually accomplished something in the former country, they're wrong. War is always evil, but sometimes it's more legitimate than other times, and that's what counts in the end. If Bush had found WMDs, or just managed to form a stable democratic Iraqi coalition, you wouldn't even be on the defensive right now.
Why do you think that, in spite of all the complaints about depleted uranium and murderous sanctions established by his father, the American people still weren't anti-Gulf War the way they are anti-Iraq War? And how often have people complained about Dresden and Hiroshima and the Japanese-American intern camps, but not about the value of WW2 itself? Hell, I complained about Somalia, and people were making fun of *me*. And even after Truman lost an election to the Korean War, it still didn't hurt his legacy the way Vietnam hurt LBJ's legacy.
So what matters to most people is not whether an armed response is right or wrong, but whether it serves the purpose for which it was intended.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 17, 2008 1:07 PM
comment #60
Mgmax
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Oh bullshit, D.Z., you will never admit to one iota of good news in Iraq or about anything else Bush has ever done.
Mjs-- do you really think this is an effective line of attack? You're accusing me of what-- not standing up for my views here? A more just complaint would be that I can't stop defending them when I'd be better off just ignoring whatever eighth grader is attacking me now convinced of his own Democrat superiority. You know, kind of like now.
Posted by Mgmax
at May 17, 2008 4:07 PM
comment #61
D.Z.
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Mgmax: "Oh bullshit, D.Z., you will never admit to one iota of good news in Iraq or about anything else Bush has ever done."
That's because there is no good news. And Bush hasn't done anything, except play make-believe.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 17, 2008 5:54 PM
comment #62
Mgmax
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Remember when that nuke went off in the container ship in the Port of Seattle in 2003?
Remember the sarin incident in the mall in Houston two days before Christmas 2005 that killed 66 people?
Remember the assassination of Angela Merkel?
That's what Bush has done, and we've all grown too complacent to realize it.
Posted by Mgmax
at May 17, 2008 8:38 PM
comment #63
D.Z.
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"Remember when that nuke went off in the container ship in the Port of Seattle in 2003?"
No, but I remember those civilians murdered from depleted uranium.
"Remember the sarin incident in the mall in Houston two days before Christmas 2005 that killed 66 people?"
No, but I remember the flooded New Orleans.
"Remember the assassination of Angela Merkel?"
No, but I remember the train explosions in Britain and Spain...
"That's what Bush has done,"
So you basically agree with me that he's done nothing.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 18, 2008 3:25 PM
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