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A remake of Abel Ferrara's Bad Lieutenant will begin shoting in the late summer with Nicolas Cage reinterpreting Harvey Keitel's coked-out, self-destructive Manhattan cop and -- talk about a curious but totally dynamite call -- the great Werner Herzog directing. Inspired! I love it sight unseen.
The only uh-oh is that it's being partly slapped together by the very "bad" (in a manner of speaking) Israeli producer Avi Lerner, who's long been regarded as more of a wheeler-dealer in the Dino de Laurentiis-Eli Samaha-Giancarlo Perretti tradition of movie-producing by way of an Oriental rug salesman mentality. The more respectable Edward R. Pressman is also a producer on the film. Nobody pushes Herzog around, but the general rule-of-thumb is that a movie is only as good and smart as the lamest link in the chain.
Has this rule ever been proved wrong? Yes -- when legendary schlockmeister Willam Castle helped produce Roman Polanski's classic Rosemary's Baby.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on May 14, 2008 at 9:36 AM
comment #1
lazespud
says ...
Let's hope Cage's schlong doesn't make an appearance. Still having nightmares about Keitel's from the first one.
Posted by lazespud
at May 14, 2008 9:59 AM
comment #2
Mr. Buckles
says ...
Dud, wtf? This art house cult hit doesn't need another master.
I'd much rather see Howard Stern's Porky's.
Posted by Mr. Buckles
at May 14, 2008 10:08 AM
comment #3
Rich S.
says ...
de Laurentiis also produced Michael Mann's Manhunter, Cronenberg's The Dead Zone, Pacino's Serpico and Law's Danger Diabolik! So he's not all bad.
Posted by Rich S.
at May 14, 2008 10:09 AM
comment #4
MickTravis
says ...
Sure Herzog bodes well. And Cage will bring his Cage-iness to it.
But, seriously, why?
The original is such a weird, wild, strange fucking thing that it shouldn't spawn a remake. What's next? "A Clockwork Orange" ? "Repo Man" ? "Putney Swope" ?
I'm just sick of having to qualify the movies I like, as in: "I like 'The Vanishing,' but I mean the Dutch version, not the Jeff Bridges fiasco."
Couldn't they just tell a similar story and call it something else?
Posted by MickTravis
at May 14, 2008 10:11 AM
comment #5
JD
says ...
Did you just call it "Law's Danger Diabolik"? Try Bava's Danger Diabolik (no offense to John Phillip Law, but he's no auteur). As for William Castle, it's a real stretch to compare him to a heartless, tasteless producer. His films had style and wit to burn and anyone familiar with both Polanski and Castle -- including Polanski himself -- can see the influence of Castle (in a good way) on the great Rosemary's Baby.
Posted by JD
at May 14, 2008 10:14 AM
comment #6
Rich S.
says ...
Sorry, that Law comment was a bit of a non-sequitur, wasn't it? I of course meant no disrespect to Bava. I was shooting for a rather whimsical punctuation to the sequence. I see I succeeded marvelously.
Posted by Rich S.
at May 14, 2008 10:18 AM
comment #7
Rich S.
says ...
Oh, and Castle's Homicidal is a seriously fun, whacked-out piece of work.
Posted by Rich S.
at May 14, 2008 10:19 AM
comment #8
actionman
says ...
Very, very, very mixed feelings on this. I LOVE Herzog; the man is a genius. The original Lieutenant is Ferrara's masterpiece, and it's just crazy to think that it's being remade. I love Cage when the material is right, and on paper, this sounds like a role he could really nail. I am still stunned that Herzog is even contemplating a remake. The Avi Lerner connection is indeed troubling, but maybe this film will be the exception to his rather shitty resume.
Posted by actionman
at May 14, 2008 10:23 AM
comment #9
berkguru
says ...
complete joke to remake this
the original is a classic and is still very captivating
pointless
although Cage is a good choice and does give a very underated performance in 8MM
what's next - a remake of Goodfellas
Posted by berkguru
at May 14, 2008 10:29 AM
comment #10
bagelfilm
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Ferrara is a filmmaker who faces his religious ghosts; Herzog on the other hand does not believe hence "Bad Lieutenant" done by him is without soul.
Posted by bagelfilm
at May 14, 2008 10:36 AM
comment #11
berg
says ...
my claim to fame other than my natural good looks is that I saw this film on its opening weekend in NYC ... friday, midnight, playing exclusively at some gotham twoplex, next to (also exclusive) Aladdin. The theater had a marquee display with some bondage type imagery, hand cuffs and the poster (?) ... I have only seen BL theatrically but evidently the Schooly D song that plays all throughout the film is not on the dvd version because the rights to the sample from LZs Kashmir were not cleared ... I can't imagine that film without that song ... Cage is at his best when he is over the top, I hope he wears a bear suit for the masturbation scene
Posted by berg
at May 14, 2008 10:37 AM
comment #12
lazespud
says ...
To Bagelfilm:
It sounds like you're trying to be profound in some way; sorry though, your statement is ridiculous. His version may suck, it may even be "without soul" whatever that means, but it would because of about 1000 different reasons before him "not believing".
When I think of the White Diamond, Little Dieter Needs to Fly, Invincible, Kasper Hauser and other great works by the guy, a profoundly deep "soul" is definately among the descriptors I would use.
Posted by lazespud
at May 14, 2008 10:47 AM
comment #13
CinemaPhreek
says ...
Oh, yeah, exactly what we need - another over-the-top, wild-eyed, chewing-the-scenery-down-to-a-nub Nic Cage performance. Keitel grounded that role and gave the film the impact of a two by four between the eyes of the audience. The character's excesses were all he needed, not wild histrionics.
Just picture Cage from FACE/OFF and you can see where he will take the character: straight into cartoonland.
Posted by CinemaPhreek
at May 14, 2008 10:57 AM
comment #14
corey3rd
says ...
Herzog needs to do a documentary about all the crap that went down while they were making Bad Lt. I had a long talk with someone who worked on the set. They were really doing drugs during the takes. The only thing faked was the crack. Zoe really did shoot up heroin. Harvey was in the middle of an emotional meltdown since right before shooting Lorraine Bracco had run off with Edward James Olmos. One of the girls in the stationwagon scene is Harvey's babysitter. Abel would wander off during rehearsals and the AD and DP would shoot the scene. Abel would wander back, look at the playback and approve. The fact that this film got completed is a complete miracle.
Herzog shouldn't remake another man's madness.
For scenery Nick Cage to think he can do better is BS. How many people give a crap about his Wickerman flick?
Posted by corey3rd
at May 14, 2008 10:58 AM
comment #15
frankbooth
says ...
Next up: Scorsese remakes Eraserhead.
Yes, it's offensive to say Herzog's films have no soul, but I see what Bagelfilm is getting at. Ferrara's Catholicism informed the film to such a degree that it almost impossible to imagine it without it. Herzog's take will probably be more of an existential "human beast" kind of thing. Who knows? Maybe it will be interesting in its own right.
I love Herzog's Seventies films deeply, and can watch Aguirre, Kaspar Hauser, Woyzek, Stroszek and Nosferatu over and over. Every time I get in a new relationship, I make my current girlfriend watch them, and it's a good litmus test for compatibility.
But yeah, this is very weird. His best recent films have been docs. His last film was based on a doc he'd already made. Now he's looking to an inferior artist (Ferrara has made some good films, but his body of work is hardly comparable) for inspiration.
What was that line about Lou Reed in Trainspotting?
(Flame away, you bastards, I'm ready for ya!)
Posted by frankbooth
at May 14, 2008 11:09 AM
comment #16
115thDreamer
says ...
Wow....love Herzog, love Cage....but yes, this seems like a shaky idea. There's just no need to remake films that have that one-of-a-kind, all-the-stars-aligned type of feel to them. The original is some sort of corrosive masterpiece that really shouldn't be touched, I feel. Forgot about possibly seeing Cage's member - what do you do about the scene where he pulls over the two teenage girls? Sure Cage is dark and edgy and all, but a guy who still does the 'movie star' thing from time to time is really going to recreate that scene and then do "National Treasure 3" right after? I"m not seeing it. Again - Herzog = awesome, Cage = awesome, but...let's leave our cult classics alone.
Posted by 115thDreamer
at May 14, 2008 11:22 AM
comment #17
BurmaShave
says ...
I can see where all the concerns are coming from, but hopefully in this we will get a more BRINGING OUT THE DEAD style Cage.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 14, 2008 11:22 AM
comment #18
actionman
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His performance in Bringing Out the Dead is the most underrated of his career and completely mesmerizing, just like the film. Awesome, powerful stuff.
Posted by actionman
at May 14, 2008 11:31 AM
comment #19
AH
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Has the credit crunch gotten so bad that even low-budget indie films are being remade? I can understand going for brand recognition when a company is spending $50 million plus on a movie. However, following the same policy for a, $10 million, if that, movie is a sure sign of the apocalypse.
Posted by AH
at May 14, 2008 11:34 AM
comment #20
Hickenlooper
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It may be fashionable in some circles to poo-poo Avi Lerner, but the reality is he allows his filmmakers' creative freedom. I did a picture for him ten years ago, 'The Big Brass Ring' (an adaptation of the Orson Welles screenplay) and my experience with him creatively was sensational. Yes, Avi makes a lot of B-style movies, but those pictures have given him the financial security to be one of the few remaining sources of capital in the independent fllm world. While all the others are imploding, Avi is able to do what he wants, like financing the Herzog picture. In Orson Welles' lifetime no one would touch 'The Big Brass Ring' yet in the end Avi would because both he and Boaz Davidson are at heart true film lovers. They are also smart businessmen but they appreciate talent and they always put their money where their mouth is. They are an unpretentious group and I would be happy to work with them anytime, anywhere.
Posted by Hickenlooper
at May 14, 2008 11:42 AM
comment #21
George Prager
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RESERVOIR DOGS and BAD LIEUTENANT came out the same week, I think. Richard Price famously said something like "I think Tarantino is just kidding, but Abel Ferrara is a sick puppy."
Posted by George Prager
at May 14, 2008 12:10 PM
comment #22
Bocephus
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You guys are talking about this like it's going to be a typical pointless Hollywood remake, and about Herzog like he's some kind of typical hack director. He wouldn't pick the material if he didn't have some excellent ideas for it.
People were just as skeptical when we learned he was making Rescue Dawn. And it turned out to be terrific. Not his best film but still an important addition to his dazzling catalog.
And to refer to any of his work as being "without soul" is outright blasphemy. I've learned more about the human soul from Herzog than I have from any other filmmaker. Actually, I believe that would be a 4-way tie between Herzog, Bergman, Bresson, and Errol Morris.
"Oh, yeah, exactly what we need - another over-the-top, wild-eyed, chewing-the-scenery-down-to-a-nub Nic Cage performance. "
I agree wholeheartedly. Ghost Rider and Wicker Man might have been huge turds, but thanks to Cage at least they were both barrels of laughs.
Posted by Bocephus
at May 14, 2008 12:17 PM
comment #23
Rich S.
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Just think if Klaus Kinski was still alive and was starring in this instead of Cage (okay, he'd be 82, but still). The mind reels.
Posted by Rich S.
at May 14, 2008 12:54 PM
comment #24
York "Budd" Durden
says ...
>I've learned more about the human soul from . . . Herzog, Bergman, Bresson, and Errol Morris.
Spot on.
Posted by York "Budd" Durden
at May 14, 2008 1:00 PM
comment #25
televisiontears
says ...
corey3rd -
The Wicker Man remake is one of the best films to watch with a slight buzz and a few good friends. Every single frame is packed with accidental hilarity, and many of us still quote it heavily ("Killing me won't bring back your goddamn honey!" "How'd it get burned?!"). Don't get me started on the last act jammed with The Cage beating on as many women as he can.
Some choice moments:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mbb5lxGFmXI&feature=related
Give it a couple years and it'll be a dorm room stoner classic. Good times.
Posted by televisiontears
at May 14, 2008 1:00 PM
comment #26
thorsen1nk
says ...
Not only is this a classic, it's only 16 years old. I mean seriously, shouldn't there be at least a 20 year grace period between remakes?
And it's not like the original Bad Lieutenant is even dated. It could easily be set in modern times--only real giveaway is the make of the cars they drive.
As for Cage. Sorry, Keitel NAILED that shit--performance of a lifetime. I can't imagine anyone else. Seriously, can you imagine them remaking Taxi Driver with Nic Cage as Travis Bickle? To me, this is almost the same thing.
PS: Jeff, Edwards just officially endorsed Obama.
Posted by thorsen1nk
at May 14, 2008 3:35 PM
comment #27
Bob Violence
says ...
This will be the most amazing trainwreck in ages. I can't wait.
Posted by Bob Violence
at May 14, 2008 3:40 PM
comment #28
p.Vice
says ...
The only way this ridiculous remake idea would be validated AT ALL were if Klaus Kinski still alive to take over from Keitel. THAT I might watch.
This, not so much.
Posted by p.Vice
at May 14, 2008 4:45 PM
comment #29
The Hoyk
says ...
The sad part about the loss of Schooly D's "Signifying Rapper" from the DVD and cable TV airings of BAD LIEUTENANT is that he didn't even sample the actual recording of Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir." If you listen to the song, it is a recreation of just the first four bars, essentially nothing more than a guitar riff. Zeppelin's management threatened to sue Schooly and his record company, but they probably would have had a good defense in that one cannot copyright a riff - otherwise, the guy who wrote "Hambone" would be a zillionaire and Bo Diddley wouldn't live in a trailer park. However, the record label was small and poor in comparison to Zeppelin's war chest, and the producers probably didn't want to spend the money fighting them, so the song was removed.
Naturally, we as fans felt a huge insult to injury when the "Kashmir" riff showed up, with permission, in Diddy's excreble "Be With Me" in GODZILLA.
Posted by The Hoyk
at May 14, 2008 4:48 PM
comment #30
Strolzy
says ...
They should also redo "A Thousand Clowns" with CG renderings of Jack Lemmon and the protagonist from "Rushmore." Nah. A film with western-era Eastwood locked in deadly battle with Reservoir Dogs-era Michael Madsen/Mr. Goddamn Blonde/Vic Fucking Vega on the other hand would blow minds. Actually both films would. Greenlight these. Get paid doing what you were meant to. Stir minds. Evolve something, evolve more. For fuck sakes, I watched Kalatozov's "I Am Cuba" today and witnessed some of the most stunning camera work probably ever experienced AND THIS FILM WAS MADE IN 1964! Where the modern-day cinematic blood lines to THIS film? Where are the modern Jodorowsky's? The Mizoguchi's? And where the hell are the Ealing Studios of today?! Is YouTube gonna get us there?
Posted by Strolzy
at May 14, 2008 5:41 PM
comment #31
D.Z.
says ...
Youtube took down a hilarious Wicker Man spoof which looked like an ad from Enter the Dragon.
Posted by D.Z.
at May 14, 2008 5:48 PM
comment #32
bb
says ...
Bad Lieutenant was a good film but I was never compelled to watch it again. I remember it as a distinctly unpleasant experience.
But then whenever I see any of Cage's recent films, it is usually unpleasant as well so maybe this will all work out!
Posted by bb
at May 14, 2008 5:52 PM
comment #33
berkguru
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I wonder what sporting event Cage will shoot up his car radio over. Gotta love the Daryl Strawberry meltdowns. Maybe the Yankees choke against the Red Sox from a couple of years ago.
Posted by berkguru
at May 14, 2008 10:11 PM
comment #34
Rich S.
says ...
Speaking of Diabolik, the Orlando Sentinel is reporting that John Phillip Law has passed away.
Posted by Rich S.
at May 15, 2008 11:54 AM
comment #35
corey3rd
says ...
at the end they can have A-Rod race up and attempt to slap the gun out of the killer's hand before he unloads on Nic
Posted by corey3rd
at May 15, 2008 6:03 PM
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