comment #1

erniesouchak says ...

That might keep it from being a creaky retread, but it won't keep it from being a steaming pile of shite.

comment #2

DavidF says ...

Beverly Hills Cop IV may be the film Brett Ratner was born to direct.
He is king of the mildly-entertaining-but-ultimately-unmemorable-franchise sequel and if there's anything the Beverly Hills Cop "franchise" could use another one of those, it's that.

Tony Scott was too much the auteur to do it right and Landis was trying too hard to capture something that wasn't there but Ratner? I think he'll produce the perfect, unneeded, ineffectual sequel.

My only hope is that Eddie Murphy plays Foley, Taggart and Rosewood. Ronny Cox should still play Bogomill, however.

comment #3

p.Vice says ...

I think Axel should be a corpse in the film, as a metaphor for the creative bankruptcy this lunacy represents.

comment #4

actionman says ...

There is nothing lunatic about a new BH Cop film...get a solid, fun, action-packed, and R-rated script, ditch Ratner, and let Eddie go wild.

Fleming is wrong, though. The Bruck only produced part one and two; he had nothing to do with the wretched part three.

Get Tony Scott back for this.

comment #5

p.Vice says ...

actionman -- If you believe BHC4 will be rated R, or will be anything resembling "fun", I believe Doug Pratt has a bridge to sell you over in the aliens thread.

comment #6

mutinyco says ...

Man-eating ants!

comment #7

actionman says ...

All I made were suggestions. None of what I suggested will happen. So it will probably turn out a lot like Die Hard 4, which fucking sucked.

I'd like to see a Bruckeimer produced, Tony Scott directed, R-rated Beverly Hills Cop IV. That would be awesome. At least for me.

comment #8

Jeffrey Kunze says ...

Actionman is the ultimate optimist and a studio executive's most ideal moviegoer.

Anybody who's been on this site for a few days realizes this.

comment #9

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

I remember when I saw 2... and they made such a point of bringing all the supporting characters and reminding us of their little quirks.

Except I'd completely forgotten all of them in the meantime, and didn't give a shit anyway. It was the epitome of the sequel which is too slavish to its predecessor, determined to deliver exactly what we liked about the first one with diminished returns. Do we really need a 50-year-old Judge Reinhold in this, imitating his 21-year-old self? I can't even imagine the third one, let alone a fourth. Yawn.

What's too bad is that if they hadn't been so determined to do the exact same thing, they could have had a great series with Murphy shaking up a new place each time, and making it totally fresh (well, sort of fresh) with a new cast of characters. The franchise is the star, not anything wonderful about the premise and supporting cast which were both fairly generic.

comment #10

actionman says ...

I am definitely an optimist, thanks Mr. Kunze. Why waste time being a pessimistic asshole? I just want the movies to be good. I want them to accomplish what they set out to do. Is that too much to ask?

The idea of Brett Ratner directing a PG-13 Beverly Hills Cop film is typical and beyond lame. I don't think I am being unreasonable when I suggest that a guy like Tony Scott would do a much, much better job with this material.

comment #11

Craig Kennedy says ...

BH2 was one of the most dispiriting movies I've ever seen. It put me off Bruckheimer for 15 years before I was conned into seeing the first PIrates.

comment #12

actionman says ...

I remember reading various drafts of Cop IV when I was working at Bruckheimer's. They all sucked. It was pretty shocking to be honest. Even the action sequences were lame. And the names that they got to write the various drafts...damn.

He's not involved with Cop IV at this point, however.

comment #13

dangovich says ...

The bet thing they could have done with Axel Foley is pair him up with James Bond.

Isn't it time we officially renamed Brett Ratner "The Final Nail in the Coffin?"

comment #14

frankbooth says ...

Wasn't 2 originally supposed to take place in London? Like Mgmax said, the idea was to put Foley in a new environment each time.

Then Murphy and his hangers-on scouted out the location and he declared the party scene there insufficient to his needs as an artist, so it became L.A. again. At least that's what I recall reading.

comment #15

DavidF says ...

In fairness to BH2, it probably has the best cinematography of Eddie Murphy comedy.

They should ditch Murphy and Ratner go back to the original concept, (a reimagining, like The Hulk):
Sly Stallone is a fucked up Detroit cop.
His buddy in LA is killed.
He goes there and goes on a rampage.

Get Fincher or even Joe Carnahan to direct.

Ditch everything else, but keep Bronson Pinchot.

comment #16

actionman says ...

One draft of Cop 4 that I read was set in London. One was set in Monte Carlo with the Grand Prix as the back-drop. One was set in Detroit and LA. They were all disappointing.

comment #17

frankbooth says ...

"In fairness to BH2, it probably has the best cinematography of Eddie Murphy comedy."

I could never figure out why there was all that smoke and haze in the air in interior scenes. Don't the characters in Ridley and Tony Scott movies ever think to dust, or to open a window?

comment #18

lesterg says ...

Oddly, I think they've had scripts for all three sequels that took place in London. I read a terrible draft of BHC III (in the early 90's) that was set there.

comment #19

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

Well, if that was the case about Murphy nixing London, too bad, though I'm not sure it would even rank in the top ten bad artistic/career decisions he's made.

comment #20

Dublin101 says ...

How about Martin Brest? He needs the work.

comment #21

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

We all need Martin Brest not to work, unless somehow he can recover the filmmaker who made Midnight Run.

comment #22

Movie fan09 says ...

What's too bad is that if they hadn't been so determined to do the exact same thing, they could have had a great series with Murphy shaking up a new place each time, and making it totally fresh (well, sort of fresh) with a new cast of characters. The franchise is the star, not anything wonderful about the premise and supporting cast which were both fairly generic.

Beverly Hills is a vastly different place now than it was in the early 1980s.

I mean, aren't the majority of it's residents rap stars?

comment #23

televisiontears says ...

Aside from Ratner and Murphy, the big problem with this is keeping the title "Beverly Hills Cop". How many goddamn reasons can there be for a Detroit cop to go to Beverly Hills? Just call it "Axel Foley: Something in the Something", and you don't need to weigh yourself down trying to artificially implant a device to get him to L.A.

This is a big problem with sequels. I recently read the "plot" synopsis for the Descent 2, where the main character somehow finds herself back in the uncharted cave in which she witnessed all of her friends die a brutal death. Brilliant. I know there's many more like this, but they escape me at the moment.

comment #24

televisiontears says ...

Apologies, Mr. Blood Vessel. Didn't mean to plagiarize your post.

comment #25

BurmaShave says ...

Wells, occasionally you have a very perfect idea.

comment #26

The Winchester says ...

"I could never figure out why there was all that smoke and haze in the air in interior scenes. Don't the characters in Ridley and Tony Scott movies ever think to dust, or to open a window?"

I was surprised when I finally came out to Los Angeles and discovered that it did NOT look like a Tony Scott film. Surprised, and disappointed.

Here's an idea for the flick: Axel Foley decided to stay in Beverly Hills after the last time. He has to come back to a Detroit the likes of which he has never seen before. And everyone there has paid good money to see Norbit. And now they want their vengeance.

(It involves a lot of kicking in the groin).

Oh, and Arsenio Hall plays every other role, unless Chris Tucker can get out of retirement again.

comment #27

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