comment #1

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

"But he's talking to the whole country now -- not just to Democrats"

Now all he has to do is figure out how to talk to the white working class people who make up most of the electorate.

comment #2

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

"Cue John Mellencamp's "Ain't that America?""

Um, breakfast at The Four Seasons? No, I don't really think that is America, actually, though it may be Obama's core constituency.

comment #3

EOTW says ...

I'd like to take this space to thank the likes of Wells and the rest for getting on the Obama wagon. thanks to you, and the zombies who voted for him, you've all but guaranteed a McCain victory come Nov. Count on it. He'll take Obama down, easily, in the vote and become the next Prez. Though, he'll be a one termer and Clinton will run again the next time and pull it out because Obama couldn't this time. Thanks, Wells. "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"

comment #4

Dave Polands Gut says ...

Havent the Dems learned anything from history? The nominate an elitist far left Senator whos anti military?

At least they held to their principles and nominated someone far left. When they lose they will at least have there dignity.

comment #5

vansmith says ...

there's not a four seasons within many miles of that joint, they just glommed the name..

comment #6

LuckyWilbury says ...

Um, that would be the Four Seasons Family Restaurant.

I don't think Greenwood, Indiana, has a Four Seasons hotel:

Associated Press - May 6, 2008 9:34 AM ET

GREENWOOD, Ind. (AP) - Senator Barack Obama began primary election day today by dropping in at a suburban Indianapolis restaurant.

He walked around shaking hands at the Four Seasons Family Restaurant in Greenwood, then sat at the counter and had an omelet, chatting with patrons on either side.>>

comment #7

EOTW says ...

DP's Gut speaks the (sane) truth, and a sobering one. A centrist Dem wins an election, not a crazed, inexperienced nutbag.

comment #8

Dave Polands Gut says ...

Clinton is done. Shes Teddy kennedy now. She'll do her damage from the Senate for the next 15 years. If she couldnt beat a first term senator with ZERO on his resume when she had the buzz, the money and most people wanting a change from Republican leadership she'll never win.

comment #9

EOTW says ...

maybe DPG, but the next time, the Dems are not going to let 2 people split the vote like this, which killed them in this election. there is LITERALLY no reason to give a fuck about this election. It is over and McCain doesn't have to do shit to win the office. I bet he slept in this morning.

comment #10

Rob says ...

It's a shame. The McCain/Clinton debates would have been fun. Barack's just going to get all petulant and pouty while the war hero paints him as a tax-raising peacenik.

comment #11

pauly says ...

Jeff you said it, Thank God!

Even Hillary has to reognize that it's over. Hopefully she will drop out quickly and not drag it out any longer...I would love to see her real reaction to all of this, probably pretty bitter...Bill is in for a tough time at home for the next couple years.

Now it's Obama/McCain...there will be blood! ...or at least new blood.

comment #12

sardine says ...

Hey Jeff, Obama almost squeeked!

Don't thank God....thank the voters, the very smart voters!

comment #13

EOTW says ...

Rob, Obama painted himself into that corner. McCain has to do absolutely nothing to win this election. No effort at all. Face it: The poor, working class of this country (and I am one of them) is NOT going to vote for Obama. I live in the Midwest and work with a mix of whites, blacks and Latinos (and a smattering of others) and NO ONE is voting for that guy or even openly rooting for him. It's a fact, There is a HUGE disconnect between Obama and the poor of this country and he can't bridge it and his color doesn't even matter. His anti-military stance doesn't help him either, when so many of our children are off fighting this war for the rich (Mr. Wells got any sons over there?). Trust me, in the end, the old, white man will win handily and the Dems, again, will have no one to blame but their own. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go off to my ten hour shift at the factory I work at.

comment #14

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

Okay, wrong Four Seasons. (Hey, you never know about thos midwesterners though. The last surviving U.S. Playboy Club was in Des Moines.)

Interesting observation about Indiana. Apparently Obama did do well among white working class voters.... everywhere except the northwest corner, which is in the Chicago media market (where, of course, there was far more Rev. Wright coverage). So there's support for both points of view-- he CAN win whites, but Wright IS the problem still.

comment #15

pauly says ...

Now that it's Obama/McCain, people will start to clearly see the differences between the D's and R's...and at this point in history, the D's have the momentum. Obama was hurt a little bit by Hillary dragging this out so long, but now he'll be able to focus on the real opponent, and I think he'll do well.

Also, the fact the the Dem's have been having record turnout for most of the primarys is a good sign for them...

comment #16

Krazy Eyes says ...

I guess it's easier to self-justify being a racist towards a fake Muslim than it is to be towards a real Christian, black man. Dumbass indeed.

comment #17

Krazy Eyes says ...

EOTW Says: "It's a fact, There is a HUGE disconnect between Obama and the poor of this country and he can't bridge it and his color doesn't even matter."

I don't know about that. Poor blacks seem to be voting for him in record numbers or do they not count as the "poor" in your mind?

comment #18

Zimmergirl says ...

And the next President of the United States is.....John McCain!

comment #19

J. Huff says ...

I grew up in Greenwood, IN...I don't know this restaurant well, which is on the other side of town from where I lived, but I can definitely tell you it's not a part of any upscale franchise or hotel chain. This was definitely a stop at a local diner.

That said, where he went in Greenwood is a curious thing. The restaurant is on the nicer side of town, definitely not in a lower-class neighborhood and situated where more of your folks have a BA or BS at least. It really was playing to Obama's strength among the slightly more educated. That's not a bad thing, but it's not a hole in the wall on the east side of town either. Greenwood is a small place and really an Indy suburb more than anything, but there are definite lines of demarcation of wealth. It's also very white.

All that said, I think most people from Indiana are flabbergasted that their vote actually makes a difference in a presidential primary. Usually it's decided long before the candidates reach the state.

comment #20

Walter Sobchak says ...

Time to start the McCain hatin'!

(I heard he's in favor of kitten torture)

comment #21

lehigh says ...

The discourse here is pretty shoddy.

A crazed inexperienced nutbag?

Obama will spend more time talking about his humble roots - single mom/food stamps - and that should contrast nicely to a long term senator who's living off his wife's beer fortune.

He'll narrow the gap with the white working class, and if he keeps growing his support, he'll change the map for Dems for a generation, rather than fighting over an ever shrinking piece of the electoral pie (florida, ohio) to squeak it out.

If he pulls off his plan, Hillary and other dems will owe him a big thanks.

comment #22

Mr. Muckle says ...

I'll echo what someone said in the previous thread on this topic: It's the MEDIA who are largely responsible for the dumbass contingent. The government itself does a half-assed job of education, but what other function does serious media have than to educate? Instead, they've grown into trumped-up gossip mongers. Hardly a serious bone to be found among them. Hence, idiot thoughts like the phony-Muslim idea get a grip, not to mention that nothing is essentially wrong with Islam in the first place, except for the misguided fanatics of which there are a multitude in our own home-grown religions.

Now this Jeffrey Wells guy here, he's part of that same media. In general, the stuff he writes about (entertainment) is not the least bit serious, but he does manage to poke a bit of worthwhile commentary in here now and then, which the dumbass readers (whoever they might be) don't like, of course.

Anyway, go Obama. Happy day.

comment #23

lehigh says ...

"Clinton has won white men in 13 states. Obama has won white men in 10 states"

Also, it's worth noting that Obama earned his overwhelming advantage among the black vote.

He only shot up in the polls in South Carolina after he won milquetoast, lily-white Iowa. Most blacks were waiting to see whether he had a chance with white voters.

He got the black vote when he creamed Hillary and Edwards in Iowa. Remember that the next time some gasbag tries to minimize Obama's appeal to little ethnic slices, and hint that somehow his supporters are out of the mainstream.

comment #24

gruver1 says ...

Wells to Obama dissers: What can I say? Your perceptive and intelligent discourse is really quite refreshing. I have felt much comfort and pride in HE over the past three and three-quarter years, but to provide a forum for such astute political analysis -- especially those statements embracing the donkey wisdom of America's frightened and huddled bubba class -- just makes me beam with satisfaction. Embracing the McCain-Clinton line that Obama's vision, fair-mindedness and intelligence is elitist, and declaring that McCain, a seemingly decent fellow but yesteryear's decrepit warhorse who wants to keep the ship on its present course both economically and in Iraq has it in the bag...wow. Hollywood Elsewhere -- a place where particular people congregate! Thanks, guys. Be happy in the sinkhole that you're living in, and please feel free to spread the illumination.

comment #25

nemo says ...

A lot of comments claiming it'll be McCain in a walk. And because? Well, because it's obvious! The country so obviously yearns for a third term of the Bush administration.

comment #26

Dave Polands Gut says ...

If you know anything about McCain is that he is his own man and the "Bush 3" tag wont stick on him. This is a guy who has pissed off conservatives for a decade.

McCain wants the liberals to use that on him so he can fire back that hes the only candidate running who is bi partisan.

And hes got major pieces of legislation with his name on it proving that point.

Whats Obama have that proves hes bipartisan?

comment #27

Mark says ...

No worries, Jeffrey. Not only is the nomination over, the general election is over. McCain's got too much pride to go dirty, and Obama has already weathered the worst. Plus Obama's got the educated and wealthy vote, and he plans on raising their taxes to boost the middle class. Plus offer affordable healthcare to the lower class. And I'm pretty sure anyone who believes that McCain can connect better than Barrack has never heard McCain give a speech.

Dis ting's hova.

comment #28

D.Z. says ...

Mgmax: "Now all he has to do is figure out how to talk to the white working class people who make up most of the electorate."

I think you're confusing him with McCain.

"No, I don't really think that is America, actually, though it may be Obama's core constituency."

America on vacation, maybe?

EOTW: "thanks to you, and the zombies who voted for him, you've all but guaranteed a McCain victory come Nov. Count on it. He'll take Obama down, easily, in the vote and become the next Prez. Though, he'll be a one termer and Clinton will run again the next time and pull it out because Obama couldn't this time."

Yeah, Hillary was such a shoe-in that she couldn't even win a campaign in which she originally had the edge. And as for McCain taking down Obama? He can't even take down Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. Sure, he's the winner in the GOP race, but he's got the least financial and political support of the Republicans.

"McCain has to do absolutely nothing to win this election. No effort at all."

The polls say otherwise.

"Face it: The poor, working class of this country (and I am one of them) is NOT going to vote for Obama."

Then have fun continuing to be poor.

"It's a fact, There is a HUGE disconnect between Obama and the poor of this country and he can't bridge it and his color doesn't even matter."

Yes, because Obama doesn't know what it's like to come from a humble background. Oh, wait...!

"His anti-military stance doesn't help him either, when so many of our children are off fighting this war for the rich (Mr. Wells got any sons over there?)."

What anti-military stance is that? Not nuking Iran?

Dave: "Havent the Dems learned anything from history? The nominate an elitist far left Senator whos anti military?"

As opposed to an elitist conservative who spends like a lefty and who screws his own soldiers with squalid hospital conditions? But, no, Obama is not anti-military. He's anti-stupid people running the military.

"At least they held to their principles and nominated someone far left. When they lose they will at least have there dignity."

But when your party loses, it won't even have that to
console them.

Rob: "Barack's just going to get all petulant and pouty while the war hero paints him as a tax-raising peacenik."

Yes, Obama is going to look dumb next to a guy who can't come up with his own talking points.

comment #29

D.Z. says ...

Dave: "McCain wants the liberals to use that on him so he can fire back that hes the only candidate running who is bi partisan. And hes got major pieces of legislation with his name on it proving that point."

Too bad he didn't support MLK Day. He got booed for that one when he *apologized*. Imagine how well he'll talk his way out of it during a debate.

comment #30

alan says ...

The comments here are hilarious. People predicting the certain outcome of the presidential election in May = lol. People predicting that the Republicans will win in a landslide given all the events of the last 8 years = superlol.

Though it's far too early to tell, if anyone is going to win this thing in a landslide, it certainly won't be the Republican.

comment #31

MattyCurtis says ...

Jeff, you'd probably get marginally better discourse here if you didn't come off as such a pompous jackass in the posts that start off each comments section circle jerk. It'd be good to remember that one can be a passionate supporter without being an obnoxious twit. Your posts show no awareness of that lesson.

comment #32

Mark says ...

Thank you, Alan. A Republican landslide is the only thing guaranteed not to happen. Although Obama's base of blacks and voters under 30 have not historically been uber dependable, McCain has absolutely no base. None whatsoever; no Christian conservatives, etc. If Hilary would have won, she would have at least given him a tangible base of anti-clinton votes.

comment #33

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

Yeah, count me in the pro-McCain faction (mostly sorta kinda) who nevertheless thinks the odds favor a President Obama pretty strongly.* What I think is clear is that it's his to win (if he manages to get back to being the postracial hope of all) or piss away (if he stays a Farrakhan-tinged urban machine hack, which as a constituent of said machine, I know he's had a tendency to be).

I hope Obama can rise to be who he has painted a pretty picture of, but as of yet, not lived up to being. I hope his supporters can avoid losing it for him with their insufferable attitudes, too.

* And frankly not a bad thing. The Dems have had eight years of mockery and irresponsibility; it will be good for them to actually have responsibility for our defense and welfare, and not merely the luxury of sitting on the sidelines saying everything that has been done has been done all wrong.

comment #34

loprds says ...

EOTW you are an ignorant twat.

comment #35

Jack Price says ...

It just occurred to me that "elitist" is the new "flip-flop"

(i.e. a popular buzzword for people who think merely gleaning the headlines is enough to keep themselves afloat in puffy water-cooler conversations about politics)

comment #36

dangovich says ...

Boy, the neocons, Bush apologists and general ignoramuses are in a cranky mood today.

Me, I'm looking forward to watching McSame spend the next six months defending the policies of the most unpopular president in recent U.S. history.

comment #37

iamwhoiam says ...

While i'm very much for Obama and thinks that he can be a great president, i just can't see America electing a black president.

comment #38

hardlanding says ...

Jeff: as for the "Dumbass Amendment" (which I would heartily support), would you still be so inclined if you found out that the "dumbass demographic" who couldn't pass the test skewed heavily democratic? I'm just wondering if you truly want a smarter electorate, or if you're just trying to diss republicans by inferring that every ignorant rube is a right-wing racist. (This is an honest question, I'm not trying to turn this into a reverse insult.)

comment #39

iamwhoiam says ...

Forgot to add: EOTW you are a real piece of work.

comment #40

Craptastic says ...

Wells, you should know this more than anyone else: Nine times out of ten, the audience reflects the content.

comment #41

Movie Watcher says ...

Can you imagine how much cash Obama is going to raise? I can see 70 million a month online once the general campaign starts. McCain can't comptete with that. The other day, Ole Johnny MaC was out to kiss up to the conservatives about putting right-wing nuts on the supreme court. What a joke! The scary thing is, he could win. With Fox news/Rush, and all the other assorted knuckleheads on the blogs, it's gonna be quite a show. Hillary has to go. Once that happens...wait, I can hear the republican attack machine, switched off since 2004, starting to fire up.

comment #42

MovieBob says ...

If you're a liberal, a political moderate or even just NOT a hardcore religious-right conservative; you need to be thanking ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that John McCain is the Republican nominee. Do you have ANY idea what kind of bullet you've dodged?

The Democrats ONCE AGAIN have thrown away a nearly sure thing by refusing to play tough and live in the real world. ONCE AGAIN letting a contingent of naive, idealistic little brats hijack the party. Barack Obama seems to be a nice man and, when he grows up, he might be something pretty formidable. But right now, this year, he's damn near the most unelectable candidate since George McGovern. Not only is he going to lose - massively, by a margin of over 40 states - to McCain, he would lose that badly to ANY of the previously-likely Republican nominees.

So, right now, if things had turned out differently on the Republican side, you COULD'VE be looking at 4 to 8 years under Bush Clone Huckabee or Christian-Fascist Romney. Now? All you've got to do is weather 4 years under the most reflexively-moderate, politically-liberal Republican in the entire Senate (who's NOT going to seek a second term) and then you get a chance to get this RIGHT again 2012.

comment #43

JohnCope says ...

The horrifying notion that Hillary would likely run again next time with a "See, You Should Have Got It Right the First Time" campaign is part of what makes me want to see Obama win big.

Another thing, I have often wondered why no one seems willing to confront these jokers who think Obama is Muslim; not by simply telling them he is not but asking them why being a Muslim should exclude someone from Presidential prospects. As far as I know, no one has ever asked one of these people that question and I would love to see the answer as they (assumedly) would wriggle on the hook a bit realizing that they can't really be seen to believe what they just admitted with such enthusiasm as a reason not to vote for Obama.

comment #44

Bonifer says ...

I am not here to predict the outcome of the November election, but those of you who believe that a McCain presidency is inevitable, I am suggesting that the only inevitabilities are these:

Regardless of who gets elected President, you are going to lose income to someone who sees the possibilities presented by the networked world. Someone more open to learning, more collegial with people whose life experiences are different than their own, and more focused on others than on themselves.

Regardless of who gets elected President, you are going to miss opportunities because you are focused more on outcomes than on process.

Regardless of who gets elected President, you will continue to live in a world of your own creation, a world, judging by the general tenor of your posts, steeped in ignorance, prejudice, cynicism, anger and spit.

Regardless of who gets elected President, you will continue to have trouble finding any reason to celebrate the triumph of the underdog, the coming-of-age of the young, the education of the ignorant, the healing of the ill, or the liberation of the captive.

Regardless of who gets elected President, you will continue to blame anyone and everyone but yourself for your unhappiness.

Have fun.

comment #45

Dzayson says ...

Hey Obama-hating assholes-
What the blue fuck makes you think Clinton would do any better with Bubba voters than Barack? We live in a country with a significant number of douchers- we just have to hope that we can overcome that obstacle in November

comment #46

BurmaShave says ...

I think this case we have the sober less experienced candidate vs. the crazed nutbag "veteran" (Though seriously, point to ONE fucking accomplishment of hers, ever). I think we've made the right choice.

comment #47

TL says ...

"I bet [McCain] slept in this morning."

I bet he did too. Men old enough to remember the League of Nations tire easily.

comment #48

Coltrane says ...

EOTW,
Once again lower income voters like you seem ready to vote against their economic interests. You're actually arguing that a continuation of George Bush economics is good for you?? You need to begin to understand the difference between criticizing foreign policy (as set out by the CIVILIAN leadership) and criticizing the military.

You're just "clinging" to this ridiculous logic that you don't want someone that's smarter than you running the country. Instead, you want someone who misunderstands the issues just like you do.

comment #49

Mark G. says ...

I'm pretty sure the Bush White House will stage some serious foreign drama (insert your thoughts what this could be) just before the election to make sure that the military guy will be voted into the WH...

comment #50

Zac Bertschy says ...

Same 5 Obama-hating republicans show up to spew talking points, what a shock.

McCain has a pretty slim shot at the general, and Hillary would've rallied GOP voters like never before. She is easily one of the most hated Democrats among Republicans and they would've turned out in droves just to vote against her, regardless of their feelings on McCain.

comment #51

D.Z. says ...

Mgmax: "(if he stays a Farrakhan-tinged urban machine hack, which as a constituent of said machine, I know he's had a tendency to be)."

Yeah, he should be above that and vote against MLK Day and support apartheid in S. Africa like John and Ron.

"The Dems have had eight years of mockery and irresponsibility;"

Yeah, they should let New Orleans get flooded, a bridge collapse, and Enron rip off its shareholders.

"sitting on the sidelines saying everything that has been done has been done all wrong."

You're right. They should do something more constructive, like gripe about Whitewater, Vince Foster and Monica Lewinsky.

Bob: "The Democrats ONCE AGAIN have thrown away a nearly sure thing by refusing to play tough and live in the real world. ONCE AGAIN letting a contingent of naive, idealistic little brats hijack the party."

And yet those are the ones who've usually won the races.

"Barack Obama seems to be a nice man and, when he grows up, he might be something pretty formidable. But right now, this year, he's damn near the most unelectable candidate since George McGovern."

Of course, McGovern was running at the time the Dems were more unpopular than the Republicans. And he had
to deal with a guy who co-opted the Dem platform. So unless we start seeing McCain promising universal health care and an end to the war in Iraq, he won't win.

"Not only is he going to lose - massively, by a margin of over 40 states - to McCain, he would lose that badly to ANY of the previously-likely Republican nominees."

Yes, the Republicans have what it takes to win this year, even though their leader has the highest disapproval rating of any President-including Nixon.

Mark: I was just thinking that, too. But he'll probably blow it in Obama's favor if that happens.

comment #52

Indeed says ...

For a group of people (Obama supporters) who are supposed to be more intelligent than those around them, most of you here simply resort to the standard too-ignorant-to-actually-debate phrases such as:

- righ wing nut

- assholes

- stupid

- ignorant Obama basher

- etc

...as opposed to actually debating. Its weird how automatically someone who doesnt support Obama is either a racist, a high school dropout, or out of touch with reality.

Perhaps some people dont want to vote for Obama because they dont think his policies are in the best interest of this nation, that he does not have the knowledge to address and remedy probably the most important issue facing us today (the economy), and that he really would be more of the same of what we've had over the past 30 years...Democrat or Republican. Dont you guys ever wonder how after all of these huge promises during ANY compaign absolutely nothing of value gets accomplished?

But such deductive reasoning would require something called an open mind. You partisan people are exactly whats wrong with this country when it comes to electing our leaders.

comment #53

last_child says ...

I'm so confused by those who claim that Obama's not electable and that McCain will destroy him in the general.

First of all...unelectable? He's ahead in both the popular vote AND states won. Do you think he won those things in some sort of lottery? AND, if you look at the states he's won, he's putting some states into play that aren't typical Dem states, such as Colorado and Missouri. Sure, HRC won CA and NY, but does anyone really think that Obama won't take CA and NY in the general?

Now let's look at the idea that McCain is going to destroy Obama. In many, many polls, Obama has been beating McCain in hypothetical match-ups...and this is during the time where Obama has been taking nearly constant beatings for having a loony pastor and for daring to suggest that people turn to their constants of religion and guns in times when they are powerless (i.e. "bittergate"). In other words, McCain's been getting a free ride and gushy press while Obama's getting hammered...and Obama STILL frequently beats him in the polls. How do you think McCain's going to hold up once Hillary finally drops out and the Dems turn their attention to McCain? This time right now should really be McCain's peak.

comment #54

sardine says ...

President Obama.

comment #55

dangovich says ...

Indeed: Perhaps some people dont want to vote for Obama because...he really would be more of the same of what we've had over the past 30 years.

Obama wants to withdraw our troops from Iraq. McCain wants to deepen our involvement. I'm not suggesting it will be easy to withdraw, but jeez, that's a pretty big policy difference right there.

comment #56

D.Z. says ...

Indeed: "Its weird how automatically someone who doesnt support Obama is either a racist, a high school dropout, or out of touch with reality."

Even if you're not any of those things, you still can't come up with good arguments against Obama.

"Perhaps some people dont want to vote for Obama because they dont think his policies are in the best interest of this nation,"

Yes, 100 years of occupation and "obliterating" Iran are viable alternatives.

"that he does not have the knowledge to address and remedy probably the most important issue facing us today (the economy),"

He went to Harvard, is a Senator, and yet you keep arguing he doesn't have knowledge.

"and that he really would be more of the same of what we've had over the past 30 years...Democrat or Republican."

No, he wouldn't be the same, because he's not white, and because he can motivate young people.

"Dont you guys ever wonder how after all of these huge promises during ANY compaign absolutely nothing of value gets accomplished?"

He hasn't made any promises, though.

"But such deductive reasoning would require something called an open mind. You partisan people are exactly whats wrong with this country when it comes to electing our leaders."

It's ironic that you consider yourself open-minded, and yet call *us* partisan.

comment #57

Indeed says ...

D.Z.: Theres no point arguing with you because you make absolutely no sense. And no, youre not right.

If you think going to a good school and having political experience makes you automatically qualified to head up the most important economy in the world, feel free to take a look at George W. Bush.

Dangovich: I agree (and I assume everyone else does too) that it is in our best interest to immediately withdraw our troops from Iraq (and, hey, maybe a few more of the 129 countries our bravest are currently stationed in) however even if this does occur...

- the economy will still be for shit
- public schools will still be worthless,
- we'll still be wasting trillions of dollars on foreign aid that does our nation absolutely no good
- we'll still be borrowing money from Europe to defend Europe
- we'll still be borrowing money from Asia to keep our heads above water.

Yes, Obama is a shiny new penny. Look, he's young! Look, he's black! Look, teenagers and twentysomethings respond to him! At the end of the day, he's still a politician. Like McCain, Hillary, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, etc.

We need more than baby steps at this point. A lot more. A politican that caters to special interests (yes, Obama is one of them) is going to give us more of the same.

comment #58

D.Z. says ...

Indeed: "If you think going to a good school and having political experience makes you automatically qualified to head up the most important economy in the world, feel free to take a look at George W. Bush."

The difference is that Obama actually earned his way into a good school.

"We need more than baby steps at this point. A lot more."

True, but shaking up the party's the only way to make big steps.

comment #59

JaySmack says ...

The dumb bitch known as Tim Russert must be especially disappointed. That worthless sh*tbag has been attacking Obama every day for six months. Old Tim must think the economy is great and gas prices low given how he's never bothered to talk about either of those.
Anyone see him try to restart the Wright flap last Sunday? Out of a 43 minute broadcast Russert spent the first 25 minutes takling about Wright. And his bitching about how Barack needs to kiss white male's behinds. That turd was trying to create opinion rather than inform it. Guess it never occurred to Russert that blacks still vote, and that he should have been asking Hillary why she wasn't trying to get the black vote.
All Russert's hard and dirty work, weeks of trying to sway the election by swift-boating Obama...all for nothing!

And Geroge "the Whore" Stephanopolous has given his all to kiss his former boss's wrinkled corrrupt ass in the vain hope of pulling a Tony Snow and going back to the White House. Poor George... Tony Snow at least prenteded to have something approching objectivity and he did have a little integrity (in as much as a Fox News puke can have integrity) while George is a talentless punk who'll gladly drop his Docker's and grab his bony ankles any time Billary comes calling.

Obama's first act as president should be to ban both George and Tim from the White House and put an interview embargo on ABC and NBC until they fire those two bastards.

comment #60

frankbooth says ...

Republicans have been registering as Democrats to ensure that Hillary gets the nom. They desperately WANT to run against her.

Why is this, EOTW?

comment #61

WinslowLeachtheComposer says ...

I want all of you to go back up and read Bonifer's post.

Twice.

comment #62

bb says ...

The Democrats aren't going to have time to worry about McCain. Anybody that checks out DailyKos or HuffingtonPost (or here) can see that Obama supporters not only hate Clinton, they despise her supporters. The Democratic party is tearing itself apart.

And some believe that Karl Rove is behind it all.

McCain's strategy seems to be stay away from attacks and stay above the fray. I don't expect that to last but he really doesn't have any reason to get in the mud because there's not much room down there right now.

comment #63

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

"Be happy in the sinkhole that you're living in, and please feel free to spread the illumination."

"EOTW you are an ignorant twat."

"We live in a country with a significant number of douchers- we just have to hope that we can overcome that obstacle in November."

"Same 5 Obama-hating republicans show up to spew talking points, what a shock."

"The dumb bitch known as Tim Russert must be especially disappointed. That worthless sh*tbag has been attacking Obama every day for six months. Old Tim must think the economy is great and gas prices low given how he's never bothered to talk about either of those."

Ah, the Obama hopers, cheerful in victory.

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