Someone told me about a script that tells the story of when Robbie Robertson and Martin Scorsese lived together. It's supposed to be pretty remarkable, but you can't trust the talk. Does anyone know the title or the history of it? If it's real and all it's cracked up to be, does anyone have a PDF they can send along?
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on June 20, 2008 at 9:33 AM
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Monument
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I've never heard of it. Do you know who wrote it? Scorsese?
Posted by Monument
at June 20, 2008 9:55 AM
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George Prager
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Sounds good. That reminds me. Is CARNY on DVD? That was one weird movie. I remember some weird scene where lesbians (one of them was really hot) are hitting on Jodie Foster and she teases them right back.
Posted by George Prager
at June 20, 2008 9:55 AM
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VoiceOfReason
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This sounds really cool. Didn't Marty flatline at one point when they were partying hard back in the day? I hope the script is written really broad like DUMB and DUMBER.
P.S. THE LAST WALTZ sucks. Anyone who admits to enjoying it is clearly over the age of 50.
Posted by VoiceOfReason
at June 20, 2008 10:14 AM
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Monument
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I'm 29 and The Last Waltz is one of my all time favorites. Don't like it, not a fan of the Band, fine, but to say it sucks?
Posted by Monument
at June 20, 2008 10:36 AM
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corey3rd
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half the budget would go to fake cocaine. "Wanna watch another movie, Robbie." "Sure. Have another line, Marty!" CUT!
Posted by corey3rd
at June 20, 2008 10:53 AM
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VoiceOfReason
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Sorry, saying “it sucks†is a little harsh. You’re an old soul, Monument.
I’ll just offer this quote from Lester Bangs regarding The Band: "There they are, so smugly thinking that they're brilliant musicians, just because this guy [Robbie Robertson] can play a solo for 10 minutes that's just scales! It's really pompous."
Posted by VoiceOfReason
at June 20, 2008 11:13 AM
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T. S. Idiot
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Marty made a Stones movie. Hal Ashby made a Stones movie. Wes Anderson, Judd Apatow, and others rave about Ashby: http://tinyurl.com/3l3s4h
Posted by T. S. Idiot
at June 20, 2008 11:14 AM
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Tim
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I, like Monument, am 29. I, like Monument, revere The Last Waltz.
Favorite two performances in that movie:
1) It Makes No Difference -- Rick Danko pouring his heart out.
2) Caravan -- Van the Man just tearing it up.
I've always thought that every great band deserves the "Last Waltz" treatment.
Posted by Tim
at June 20, 2008 11:25 AM
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Arizona Joe
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I never understood Scorcese making a movie about The Band.
The Band always struck me as a bunch of white cats trying too hard to be soulful. They backed Dylan well. Okay.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at June 20, 2008 11:28 AM
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Monument
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When Mavis Staples cites your band as a major influence, you aren't "trying" to be soulful.
And in addition to their work with Bob Dylan, they recorded two of the greatest rock albums ever. Good enough to get Eric Clapton to quit Cream and pursue a different sound.
I know there's no accounting for taste, but come on you should at least no of which you speak.
Posted by Monument
at June 20, 2008 11:56 AM
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nemo
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If you watch Scorsese's documentary American Boy: A Profile of Steven Prince, made the same year as The Last Waltz (1978), you will definitely come away with the impression that no one in Scorsese's circle at that time ever got up before 2:00 in the afternoon.
You also will definitely come away with the impression that there must have been some chemical aids to keeping their vampire rock star hours.
Posted by nemo
at June 20, 2008 12:09 PM
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Arizona Joe
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There's no accounting for taste, right.
Gram Parsons was a much bigger influence on popular music than Robbie Robertson. He just did not experience the hothouse effect of Dylan and Scorcese.
I think I know.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at June 20, 2008 1:24 PM
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GlassFamily
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Make that three 29 year olds who love "The Last Waltz" and The Band. The bit with Muddy Waters kills.
Coincidentally, my friend was talking to me about "The Last Waltz" today too, sending me youtube clips before I read this post. Oh, and he's 29. Guess what he loves?
The only really terrible part of the film is that guy (I can't recall the name) reading a truly awful poem.
And as much as I like Lester Bangs, he also hated Gang of Four but loved Metal Machine Music. So, you know. Grain of salt.
Posted by GlassFamily
at June 20, 2008 1:51 PM
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Monument
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Michael McClure or Lawrence Ferlinghetti, depending on which poem you think was awful.
I love Lester Bangs, but was there ever a music critic who contradicted himself more than he did?
Posted by Monument
at June 20, 2008 2:00 PM
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Arizona Joe
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I saw Gang of Four, and they were not very good on stage. I disliked Metal Machine Music, but loved the concept of it on RCA Red Label.
Lester Bangs in the main, is catholic in his tastes, and extremely knowledgeable.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at June 20, 2008 4:54 PM
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T. S. Idiot
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I saw Last Waltz when it was new with an audience of 40-50. When Neil Diamond came on, every single male got up to go to restroom or concessions.
Posted by T. S. Idiot
at June 20, 2008 6:19 PM
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DavidF
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I'm 33 and I also love the Last Waltz.
I saw Van Morrison do a horrible show about 15 years ago and when I saw CARAVAN I went, "what the hell happened to THAT guy?" It's one of the best rock performances ever and there are several others in the movie including the aforementione single-camera take on Muddy Waters OWNING and the definitve version of THE NIGHT THEY DROVE OL DIXIE DOWN.
I feel like if this movie is ever made it will have more coke than Scarface, make less sense than Inland Empire and, if we're really lucky, will include exciting behind-the-scenes stories from the making of NEW YORK NEW YORK
Posted by DavidF
at June 20, 2008 7:52 PM
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cobhome
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recall seeing an interview with robertson - on MTV - think it may have been part of that classic album series - anyway he talks about living with marty and how they didnt make a good couple -
Posted by cobhome
at June 20, 2008 9:52 PM