Similar Obama Lead

The new Times/Bloomberg poll, released an hour and three quarters ago, says Barack Obama is currently holding a 12-point lead over John McCain, 49% to 37%. Throw in Ralph Nader and Bob Barr and Obama holds 15-point edge. That 15 point lead Obama had in the recent Newsweek poll seems less eccentric now. Whites are evenly split between the two -- 39% and 39%. 11% of former Clinton supporters (bitter) have gone over to McCain's side.

Posted by Jeffrey Wells on June 24, 2008 at 3:45 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Replace Nader with Ron Paul, and I'll agree. But Obama winning because of Perot-like competition isn't going to seem that impressive, unless he can seal the 2012 election the way Clinton did in '96.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 4:05 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Well, actually, now that I think about it, the result would be more of a slap in the face of the Republicans, since they'd be losing to themselves, and not just some random Independent.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 4:15 PM

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SaveFarris Author Profile Page says ...

Both this and the Newsweek poll use the registered voters metric instead of the much more reliable likely voters.

Posted by SaveFarris Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 4:32 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

I doubt it's a huge difference for likely voters, especially since prices keep going up.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 4:54 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Affirmative action, Republican style? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/justice_inquiry_hiring

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 5:38 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Yes DZ, I agree Obama won't be a two term President until he wins in 2012.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 6:59 PM

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jc Author Profile Page says ...

Hey D.Z.

Does getting 49% of the vote in 1996 constitute "sealing the deal"?

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe1996/summ.htm

Perot ran twice, Clinton never got 50% of the popular vote.

Posted by jc Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 7:51 PM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

jc: Well, if Perot hadn't run, it probably would have been a landslide for Clinton. That might not necessarily have been the case in '92, though. But if you're going to be technical, the vote wasn't "popular" anyway, since it was a low turn-out that year; and what Clinton really won was the majority of the people who showed up for that election.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at June 24, 2008 8:25 PM

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at June 25, 2008 1:29 PM

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bb Author Profile Page says ...

Polls tell you what people think people think. Don't think that means much.

Posted by bb Author Profile Page at June 25, 2008 1:39 PM

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martindale Author Profile Page says ...

Gallup shows the race tied, and rasmussen shows a slim lead for Obama.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by martindale Author Profile Page at June 26, 2008 1:03 PM

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