There are no racist rubes, under-educated dumb-asses and ultra-resentful Hillary supporters (older, bitter, blue-collar) in the Appalachian areas. Their alleged mindset -- their existence, in fact -- has been completely manufactured by urban media elitists like myself. But if they did exist, they'd all be going for McCain -- let's face it.
The distortions don't stop with guys like me. The Columbia Dispatch's Mark Niquette has quoted another deluded guy, Herman Kaiser, 73, of Martins Ferry, Ohio, saying that he doesn't think race "is much of a factor for younger people, but it will be an issue for his generation." He adds, "Don't let anyone tell you (some people) aren't prejudiced."
Will somebody get in touch with Kaiser and straighten him out? People have to stop ragging on hard-working, rust-belt Americans out there. They have as much of a voice and a vote as anyone else, and it's just mean.
The Page's Mark Halperin has written that Obama "has work to do" with these people. Work? As in an achievable goal?
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on June 9, 2008 at 2:12 PM
comment #1
FNG
says ...
When you look at their policies and beliefs, aren't McCain and Obama basically the same person?
Posted by FNG
at June 9, 2008 3:14 PM
comment #2
supertaster
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"under-educated dumb-asses and ultra-resentful Hillary supporters (older, bitter, blue-collar)..."
...hey...older, bitter, and--judging by the hours you put in--blue collar...that's you, Wells!!
joking...
the racists may vote for McCain, otherwise your assumption that poor, undereducated voters are republican is way off...
...i think if you remove the racist angle from it, you're describing 80% of the bases of both the republican and democrat parts...big cities like New York and Philadelphia are disproportionately minority, disproportionately poor and undereducated, and disproportionately DEMOCRAT...move out to the middle of the country and rural areas are disproportionately white, disproportionately poor and undereducated, and disproportionately REPUBLICAN....the only difference being the number of neighbors each has within a square mile.
Posted by supertaster
at June 9, 2008 3:16 PM
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supertaster
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[Deleted by editor due to crude name-calling and general slander.]
Posted by supertaster
at June 9, 2008 3:23 PM
comment #4
Mark
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When you look at their policies and beliefs, aren't McCain and Obama basically the same person?
Now that's funny. The answer, btw, is no. One believes in fixing the deficit, ending the war, providing affordable healthcare, and balancing the left end of the Supreme Court, and the other wants to provide hot water to dehydrated babies.
p.s., Jeffrey, you're caught up in the 'why' of political voting, when only the 'how' is paramount. Some people didn't vote Kerry cuz he went windsurfing; of course some won't vote for the black guy. what are you gonna do?
Posted by Mark
at June 9, 2008 3:25 PM
comment #5
mrmystery
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You think someone with a functioning cerebral cortex might note that oddly enough 90-plus percent of black voters jerked the lever for Barry instead of Hillary, in spite of their nearly identical voting record on anything civil rights/affirmitave action etc.
is it possible to be a black redneck?
Posted by mrmystery
at June 9, 2008 3:26 PM
comment #6
nemo
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". . . another deluded guy, Herman Kaiser, 73, of Martins Ferry, Ohio, saying that he doesn't think race "is much of a factor for younger people, but it will be an issue for his generation." He adds, "Don't let anyone tell you (some people) aren't prejudiced.""
I'm a full generation younger than Mr. Kaiser, and spent part of my youth growing up next door in Indiana. Every white kid I knew in the 60s was an N-word-spouting racist. I see no reason to think they've changed since the MLK and RFK assassinations.
But I do remember how bizarre it was to talk with white classmates in 1968 who would refer to MLK as Martin Luther Coon with one breath, and express Beatles-mania level enthusiasm for Robert Kennedy with the next breath. There was some serious compartmentalization going on in their heads.
Posted by nemo
at June 9, 2008 3:38 PM
comment #7
Josh Massey
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Thank God there are no bigots in the big cities. The racial harmony in Los Angeles, for example, is just legendary. Boston, too.
Posted by Josh Massey
at June 9, 2008 3:39 PM
comment #8
gruver1
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Say goodbye, everyone, to "supertaster" -- he's insulted his way into HE banishment. It's good banning distasteful guys from time to time. It's like cleaning leaves out of the gutters.
Posted by gruver1
at June 9, 2008 3:41 PM
comment #9
supertaster
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i knew that was coming...nice to see (just a few posts after questioning the ssense of humor of some) that you have a sense of humor yourself...
Posted by supertaster
at June 9, 2008 3:46 PM
comment #10
supertaster
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...sorry Mr. Wells, sorry if i said anything to upset the balance of understanding, enlightenment, and rational discourse you strive so hard to maintain here...my challenge of your views is a blight on the humanist and populist tone you set down at the bottom of the Hollywood Elsewhere hole...and what a beautiful hole it is...
I know you *think* you're doing the right thing by trying to shame and bully people into voting for the best choice for President, but really, what would Obama say of someone like you? he'd probably tell me that my time is better spent at a site where people aren't expected to see the world through the myopic and intolerant viewpoint of the webmaster...at a place where difference in opinion is encouraged and even presented with some style...there might even be a few blue-collar white guys there, too! the horror!
I can't wait until you're paying for their healthcare...
Posted by supertaster
at June 9, 2008 4:33 PM
comment #11
bb
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Oh great, now I have Herman the rube from Martin's Ferry weighing in on the inherent racism of his kind of people. Thank God Herman is above it.
I'm just glad we've dispelled the notion that certain people have to vilify those that happen to disagree with them on political issues. I mean, it used to be that people thought political differences revolved around political philosophy but that notion has certainly been put to rest.
Way to once again elevate the discourse Jeff!
Posted by bb
at June 9, 2008 5:32 PM
comment #12
Mgmax, le Corbeau
says ...
I look forward to Jeff's position paper on Obama's economic policies. I know this stuff can only be a warmup for the deeply substantive examination of what will happen in an Obama administration; no one would decide the entire election on mere style issues.
Posted by Mgmax, le Corbeau
at June 10, 2008 5:29 AM
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Josh
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Apparently, you are racist if you don't vote for or agree with Obamas socialist policies.
Ouch
Posted by Josh
at June 10, 2008 11:54 AM
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D.Z.
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No, you're just racist if you think socialism is ok for corporations, but not the poor.
Posted by D.Z.
at June 10, 2008 3:48 PM
comment #15
jany
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