comment #1

George Prager says ...

I think that Kenny is suffering from a new kind of Obsessive Compulsive disorder, where you surf the net looking for things to bum out on.

comment #2

Glenn Kenny says ...

You know what, George? I think you're right. Now the thing is to find some sort of treatment for it.

comment #3

George Prager says ...

What I do is immediately turn off the computer, and if I have to stay at the computer because of work, I look at something that relaxes me rather than something that makes me want to kill somebody. Baseball-reference.com works for me.

comment #4

quitstaringatme says ...

I had to google Emily Gould just to know why she's significant. Turns out, aside from being kind of cute, she's not.

This is the "blogosphere" eating itself.

And to suggest she kill herself, regardless of whatever bullshit Jeff wrote after the jump? Man, there is a lot of evil, fucked up shit on the internet, this chick's not one of them.

Biggest problem with the internet: people are really starting to lose perspective.

comment #5

Glenn Kenny says ...

Okay, I can't say that I'm too unhappy that this thread isn't really catching on. But I'm compelled to say a couple of other things nonetheless:

Thanks, Jeff—not for blogging on this, but your analysis. No, I do not want Emily Gould dead. Yes, the "under a bus" trope was deliberate. Still, I regret putting up the comment. And not just because my wife is about to throttle me over it. Sure, I think Gould's a solipsist of limited talent—she seems capable of writing expository prose that parses grammatically, but that's it. Little insight, wit, critical acumen or vocabulary. I think she' s essentially a "Hills" character with a blog instead of a television show.

And, to echo quitstaringatme and to a certain extent Mr. Prager, so what? It's not my problem or my job. The blogosphere of course in a way encourages much sniping from the sidelines, and perspective does get lost. I do what I do to entertain and hopefully illuminate, and wasting my own and others' time on unconstructive snark does no one any good. Which does not mean, of course, that I renounce constructive snark.

But I apologize—to Gould and anyone else perturbed by my unconstructiveness.

comment #6

T. Holly says ...

You're readers are so out of touch, you shouldn't really experiment like this. Kenny is Grandpa old guard trying to infiltrate and guide the new to be more like the old, to his credit.

comment #7

gruver1 says ...

Wells to quitstaringatme: Why are you alluding to my having written something that suggested Gould do herself in, or words to that effect? You wrote "regardless of whatever bullshit Jeff wrote after the jump," etc. What are you talking about? Reading comprehension skills much?

comment #8

T. Holly says ...

Sorry, "your reader" as in "Jeff's readers." It's a spelling problem, not a vocabulary one -- one of Glenn's pet peeves. Solipsistic, solipsistic -- at first I thought it was a sex fetish.

comment #9

mutinyco says ...

This is excellent.

I'm having flashbacks to the original Texas Chain Saw Massacre, at the end, when the hitchhiker is holding Sally over the bucket, while Grandpa keeps dropping the mallet...

comment #10

George Prager says ...

if you want to read a blog that really knows how to trash idiots, I suggest sadlyno.com

comment #11

Josh Massey says ...

Who? Who? And, who?

comment #12

Zimmergirl says ...

Jeff's explanation of Glenn Kenny's fairly straightforward request seemed weird, lol. Yeah, he was saying: you're annoying, lady, throw yourself in front of a bus.

Sadly, though it pains me to agree, Gould has worn out her welcome in a very combative industry. She'd probably be more palatable if she A) weren't so enamored with her own self, B) hadn't already worked for Gawker where they are vipers and sharks. No one is going to feel sorry for someone coming out of that tank - you dish it, you gotta be able to take it. Or, you know, get thee to a nunnery.

comment #13

Edward says ...

Zimmergirl, you want Gould to go to a whorehouse? You naughty girl you.

comment #14

The Hoyk says ...

Bill Hicks would have no problem telling Emily Gould to kill herself. And there would be no ambiguity about his statement either.

comment #15

Mgmax, le Corbeau says ...

This is why sometimes blogs are the equivalent of the whole bar mitzvah process-- yeah, like privileged young people needed more encouragement to think the whole world revolves around their vapid little opinions...

comment #16

quitstaringatme says ...

Sorry, Jeff, that came across as too mean and dismissive; what I meant by "bullshit" was your analysis of the guy's comment. It just kind of irks me when anyone wishes death on someone for something as silly as running a blog, or whatever sin this girl has committed. I know you didn't say it, I just wish that Joe Internet would start using less hyperbole.

But please, continue with your "HANCOCK HAS TEH WORSTEST ENDING EVAH!!!" posts.

comment #17

Mjs says ...

Who is Glenn Kenny and why should anybody care about anything that he says? Okay, okay, I liked Premeire magazine but really, who gives a shit about Glenn Kenny? Maybe his wife should throw herself in front of a bus. Thanks.

comment #18

Mjs says ...

Who is Glenn Kenny and why should anybody care about anything that he says? Okay, okay, I liked Premeire magazine but really, who gives a shit about Glenn Kenny? Maybe his wife should throw herself in front of a bus. Thanks.

comment #19

Mjs says ...

Who is Glenn Kenny and why should anybody care about anything that he says? Okay, okay, I liked Premeire magazine but really, who gives a shit about Glenn Kenny? Maybe his wife should throw herself in front of a bus. Thanks.

comment #20

Mjs says ...

Not my fault. God damn it.

comment #21

Zimmergirl says ...

Oh, Mjs - don't you hate it when that happens? There is a little piece of software that can be installed where posters have the option of editing their comments a few minutes after posting them. Sigh. If only.

Whorehouse, well, actually - compared to the kind of shit bloggers do these days whoring seems honorable by comparison. In fact, it kind of holds up against almost every profession. It's direct, honest, public service - if only it were regulated and legal.

comment #22

George Prager says ...

Why is Zimmergirl blogging at 7:09AM?

Anyway. I'm on baseball-reference.com. Did you know that there was a baseball player named Tony Suck?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/suckto01.shtml
A current player named J.J. Putz?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/suckto01.shtml

The 1972 Phillies won 59 games. Steve Carlton won 27(!) of them!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/team/PH/1972.shtml

And are the saddest stats I've ever seen:
Larry Yount:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/y/yountla01.shtml

Brother of Robin. He was scheduled to start. Hurt his arm while warming up.

comment #23

lazarus says ...

Why should you care, Mjs? I don't know, because Glenn has a blog himself that's as insightful and pleasurable a read as anything else out there regarding film?

I don't know why you felt the need to bring His Lovely Wife into it, as she hasn't done anything except voice her disapproval at Glenn's original comments. Which makes your remark even more pointless.

comment #24

mtgilchrist says ...

This is an absurd defense of something that doesn't deserve one. I don't think any reasonable person believes that Kenny actually wants her dead, but regardless, his comments were callous and immature and hyperbolic. If anyone is subscribing to late-June/early-July mind-set it's him, who like so many of my friends and colleagues feels compelled to describe their problems and interactions with a similar level of life-stakes melodrama. So much of what is printed on the internet is completely irrelevant, and while I could barely understand what the hell Gould was talking about in that post (it's personal, uninsightful complainey gibberish), nothing she writes is important enough to solicit a reaction (joking or serious) that she need be thrown (or throw herself) in front of a bus. Which, it should be noted, is not the same thing as being thrown UNDER the bus, no matter how much circuitous logic you throw under there with it. Just as tasteless as it is for Mj above to suggest Kenny's wife be thrown in front of a bus, this is all speech that's beneath us as any kind of serious journalistic or critical community; but if he chooses to write something silly and inappropriate, he IS a professional writer (and a very good one at that), so let him be a big boy and stand up for himself and more importantly stand by what he writes without a revisionist, ten-times-over benefit of the doubt "explanation" that tries to find the softest and sweetest of all possible contexts in which to place his thoughtless comments.

comment #25

Glenn Kenny says ...

mtgilchrist, thanks for the vote of confidence and good faith as per my writing skills. As for your request that I be a big boy—well, I've apologized both on this thread and on the thread at Gould's site. (Which is awaiting "moderation".) I'm not gonna stand by what I wrote, because what I wrote, despite whatever rhetorical defenses I can muster for it, was in fact out of line, ill-tempered, and not really constructive in any way. I'm not trying to mitigate its obnoxiousness. It WAS obnoxious. I was a jackass. And I'm sorry. I don't know how to put it any clearer.

comment #26

Edward Havens says ...

Glenn, here is an idea... just let it drop. Outside of two or three people, including whomever the hell you talking about in the first place, no one is going to remember any of this in a month. We'll be so busy arguing the geo-social and political ramifications of Pineapple Express that we won't even remember all the Wall-E for Best Picture and Heath Ledger for Best Supporting Actor talk, let alone this tempest in a thimble.

comment #27

dd says ...

I don't know why you felt the need to bring His Lovely Wife into it, as she hasn't done anything except voice her disapproval at Glenn's original comments. Which makes your remark even more pointless.

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