comment #1

MovieBob says ...

And the hits just keep on comin'.

I thought Liberals/Democrats were being, well... "reality-detached" when they decided to fall head-over-heels for Saint Barack; but the notion that "he's an ornery dude" is shaping up as their chief character-assault on McCain is just jaw-dropping in it's disconnect from reality.

I mean, for fuck's sake kids... think about it. Picture the country you're ACTUALLY running in, not the one you wish you were. Think about the popular culture, the people voting, etc. Now think about the image created by the above story, and ask yourself: Does the idea that he frequently conducts himself like the hero of a schlocky mid-1980s Clint Eastwood movie (or mid-90s Harrison Ford movie) make McCain LESS electable, or MORE electable? You know the answer to that.

comment #2

BurmaShave says ...

Am I the only one who's thinking of Frank Drebin beating up the Ayatollah?

comment #3

D.Z. says ...

Bob: "Does the idea that he frequently conducts himself like the hero of a schlocky mid-1980s Clint Eastwood movie (or mid-90s Harrison Ford movie) make McCain LESS electable, or MORE electable? You know the answer to that."

Considering more Americans would currently rather be more diplomatic than start wars, what do you think?

comment #4

The Hoyk says ...

To paraphrase W.C. Fields, there has never been a time in any American man's life when he has not harbored a desire to boot a hostile foreign dignitary in the ass.

McCain just became MORE electable.

comment #5

D.Z. says ...

Hoyk: You really think Americans want a guy who embarrasses us even more than Dubya?

comment #6

The Hoyk says ...

I think there are just enough of them to tip the scales in McCain's favor.

comment #7

D.Z. says ...

When the scales tip against the economy even further, they'll follow Obama.

comment #8

MovieBob says ...

DZ
"Considering more Americans would currently rather be more diplomatic than start wars, what do you think?"

That's what people SAY, man. What they FEEL is another matter. It's who we are as a culture: We, as a collective people, LIKE this sort of thing.

comment #9

K. Bowen says ...

It was a Sandinista. I have no problem. In fact, I kinda like it.

comment #10

Discman says ...

K. Bowen is right. McCain was roughin' up a Commie. This is good for him. Note the source of the story is Thad Cochran, who earlier said he didn't want McCain in the White House because of his temper, but who now endorses the candidate.

comment #11

D.Z. says ...

Bob: "That's what people SAY, man. What they FEEL is another matter. It's who we are as a culture: We, as a collective people, LIKE this sort of thing."

No, we like when it works. We don't like when it just makes us look like cavemen.

Discman: "K. Bowen is right. McCain was roughin' up a Commie. This is good for him."

You seem to forget we're in this mess in the first place because we went after commies with no regard for the consequences...

comment #12

corey3rd says ...

If I want Chuck Norris in the White House, I'll vote for Chuck Norris.

The better story is how McCain keeps insisting that he never said stuff that's easily found on Youtube. Is he lying or does he merely have zero memory of what comes out his mouth?

comment #13

le corbeau says ...

Oh, that brute McCain! We mustn't have a man like that in the White House! How terribly unrefined! What will the French think?

Honest to God, if that's the bunch of pussies Americans have become we might as well stick a picture of Uncle Joe up in every classroom and start each day singin' the Marseillaise! This November, vote like you still got a pair!

I'm Lou Stasiak and I approve this message, you little punk.

comment #14

bents75 says ...

Yeah, a shriveled old man pair, Mgmax.

You really think 5'7", 70 year old grandpa McCain really intimidated a Nicaraguan guerilla with an action like that? Please. I'm sure they had a pretty good chuckle about it at the end of the night. We look like pussies just by sending someone like that there in the first place.

It's just plain silly.

And besides, what part about the word diplomacy don't you understand? If the man can't negotiate without keeping his cool then he is by definition, not very diplomatic.

comment #15

George Prager says ...

Mgmax's comment is so 2003!

The incident brings up McCain's crankiness. Do we really want a cranky President? One who acts like the recovering alcoholic Dad who overfills up his Thanksgiving dinner plate first, wolfs it down and retreats to the den to watch football while everyone else is still eating? They wear out their welcome real fast. Think of Nixon, Truman, Carter, LBJ...it won't be fun. And McCain's a kept man, has been spoiled by his wife. A big spoiled crybaby!

comment #16

le corbeau says ...

Hell no we don't want a cranky president. We want a Mr. Cool president. We want a president who's so cool he makes the rest of us feel like the inferior dweebs we are. I want to feel his Harvard Law Review contempt for me every day, so it's that much sweeter when he dispenses the milk from the government tit and makes me whole again. I want to crawl to him like Bill and Hillary have been made to crawl, and to feel his $500 shoe on my face, and know that he loves me as only he can.

comment #17

George Prager says ...

Sounds good to me.

comment #18

George Prager says ...

Beats Harvard Business School contempt any day.

A more accurate analogy for McCain would be the cranky dad who, when you complain, talks about putting a roof over your head, food on your plate, etc. I don't think McCain will enjoy the job of President. As President George H.W. Bush said to Ed Koch one day at the White House: "I can't wait to get out of here."

comment #19

George Prager says ...

I touched a nerve. Mgmax is about two presidential terms away from becoming one of those cranky dads.

comment #20

le corbeau says ...

No, George, I'm mocking your batshit attitude toward McCain by writing equally crazy shit. In case you hadn't figured that out yet.

comment #21

George Prager says ...

I wouldn't be responding if I hadn't. It's like Rock'em Sock'em robots.

comment #22

George Prager says ...

This is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vcB7uCqdFk

comment #23

George Prager says ...

The wife U.S. Republican John McCain callously left behind

By Sharon Churcher

Now that Hillary Clinton has at last formally withdrawn from the race for the White House, the eyes of America and the world will focus on Barack Obama and his Republican rival Senator John McCain.

While Obama will surely press his credentials as the embodiment of the American dream � a handsome, charismatic young black man who was raised on food stamps by a single mother and who represents his country�s future � McCain will present himself as a selfless, principled war hero whose campaign represents not so much a battle for the presidency of the United States, but a crusade to rescue the nation�s tarnished reputation.

McCain likes to illustrate his moral fibre by referring to his five years as a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam. And to demonstrate his commitment to family values, the 71-year-old former US Navy pilot pays warm tribute to his beautiful blonde wife, Cindy, with whom he has four children.

But there is another Mrs McCain who casts a ghostly shadow over the Senator�s presidential campaign. She is seldom seen and rarely written about, despite being mother to McCain�s three eldest children.

And yet, had events turned out differently, it would be she, rather than Cindy, who would be vying to be First Lady. She is McCain�s first wife, Carol, who was a famous beauty and a successful swimwear model when they married in 1965.

She was the woman McCain dreamed of during his long incarceration and torture in Vietnam�s infamous �Hanoi Hilton� prison and the woman who faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news.

But when McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries.

When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons

had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.

Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self.

Today, she stands at just 5ft4in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering.

For nearly 30 years, Carol has maintained a dignified silence about the accident, McCain and their divorce. But last week at the bungalow where she now lives at Virginia Beach, a faded seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, she told The Mail on Sunday how McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later.

Carol insists she remains on good terms with her ex-husband, who agreed as part of their divorce settlement to pay her medical costs for life. �I have no bitterness,�

she says. �My accident is well recorded. I had 23 operations, I am five inches shorter than I used to be and I was in hospital for six months. It was just awful, but it wasn�t the reason for my divorce.

�My marriage ended because John McCain didn�t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.�

Some of McCain�s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to �play the field�. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.

McCain was then earning little more than �25,000 a year as a naval officer, while his new father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was a multi-millionaire who had impeccable political connections.

He first met Carol in the Fifties while he was at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis. He was a privileged, but rebellious scion of one of America�s most distinguished military dynasties � his father and grandfather were both admirals.

But setting out to have a good time, the young McCain hung out with a group of young officers who called themselves the �Bad Bunch�.

His primary interest was women and his conquests ranged from a knife-wielding floozy nicknamed �Marie, the Flame of Florida� to a tobacco heiress.

Carol fell into his fast-living world by accident. She escaped a poor upbringing in Philadelphia to become a successful model, married an Annapolis classmate of McCain�s and had two children � Douglas and Andrew � before renewing what one acquaintance calls �an old flirtation� with McCain.

It seems clear she was bowled over by McCain�s attention at a time when he was becoming bored with his playboy lifestyle.

�He was 28 and ready to settle down and he loved Carol�s children,� recalled another Annapolis graduate, Robert Timberg, who wrote The Nightingale�s Song, a bestselling biography of McCain and four other graduates of the academy.

The couple married and McCain adopted Carol�s sons. Their daughter, Sidney, was born a year later, but domesticity was clearly beginning

to bore McCain � the couple were regarded as �fixtures on the party circuit� before McCain requested combat duty in Vietnam at the end of 1966.

He was assigned as a bomber pilot on an aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Tonkin.

What follows is the stuff of the McCain legend. He was shot down over Hanoi in October 1967 on his 23rd mission over North Vietnam and was badly beaten by an angry mob when he was pulled, half-drowned from a lake.
war hero John McCain

War hero: McCain with Carol as he arrives back in the US in 1973 after his five years as a PoW in North Vietnam

Over the next five-and-a-half years in the notorious Hoa Loa Prison he was regularly tortured and mistreated.

It was in 1969 that Carol went to spend the Christmas holiday � her third without McCain � at her parents� home. After dinner, she left to drop off some presents at a friend�s house.

It wasn�t until some hours later that she was discovered, alone and in terrible pain, next to the wreckage of her car. She had been hurled through the windscreen.

After her first series of life-saving operations, Carol was told she may never walk again, but when doctors said they would try to get word to McCain about her injuries, she refused, insisting: �He�s got enough problems, I don�t want to tell him.�

H. Ross Perot, a billionaire Texas businessman, future presidential candidate and advocate of prisoners of war, paid for her medical care.

When McCain � his hair turned prematurely white and his body reduced to little more than a skeleton � was released in March 1973, he told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again.

But friends say privately he was �appalled� by the change in her appearance. At first, though, he was kind, assuring her: �I don�t look so good myself. It�s fine.�

He bought her a bungalow near the sea in Florida and another former PoW helped him to build a railing so she could pull herself over the dunes to the water.

�I thought, of course, we would live happily ever after,� says Carol. But as a war hero, McCain was moving in ever-more elevated circles.

Through Ross Perot, he met Ronald Reagan, then Governor of California. A sympathetic Nancy Reagan took Carol under her wing.

But already the McCains� marriage had begun to fray. �John started carousing and running around with women,� said Robert Timberg.

McCain has acknowledged that he had girlfriends during this time, without going into details. Some friends blame his dissatisfaction with Carol, but others give some credence to her theory of a mid-life crisis.

He was also fiercely ambitious, but it was clear he would never become an admiral like his illustrious father and grandfather and his thoughts were turning to politics.

In 1979 � while still married to Carol � he met Cindy at a cocktail party in Hawaii. Over the next six months he pursued her, flying around the country to see her. Then he began to push to end his marriage.

Carol and her children were devastated. �It was a complete surprise,� says Nancy Reynolds, a former Reagan aide.

�They never displayed any difficulties between themselves. I know the Reagans were quite shocked because they loved and respected both Carol and John.�

Another friend added: �Carol didn�t fight him. She felt her infirmity made her an impediment to him. She justified his actions because of all he had gone through. She used to say, �He just wants to make up for lost time.��

Indeed, to many in their circle the saddest part of the break-up was Carol�s decision to resign herself to losing a man she says she still adores.

Friends confirm she has remained friends with McCain and backed him in all his campaigns. �He was very generous to her in the divorce but of course he could afford to be, since he was marrying Cindy,� one observed.

McCain transferred the Florida beach house to Carol and gave her the right to live in their jointly-owned townhouse in the Washington suburb of Alexandria. He also agreed to pay her alimony and child support.

A former neighbour says she subsequently sold up in Florida and Washington and moved in 2003 to Virginia Beach. He said: �My impression was that she found the new place easier to manage as she still has some difficulties walking.�

Meanwhile McCain moved to Arizona with his new bride immediately after their 1980 marriage. There, his new father-in-law gave him a job and introduced him to local businessmen and political powerbrokers who would smooth his passage to Washington via the House of Representatives and Senate.

And yet despite his popularity as a politician, there are those who won�t forget his treatment of his first wife.

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans� rights, said: �I have been following John McCain�s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is � deceit.

�When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

�Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

�This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.�

One old friend of the McCains said: �Carol always insists she is not bitter, but I think that�s a defence mechanism. She also feels deeply in his debt because in return for her agreement to a divorce, he promised to pay for her medical care for the rest of her life.�

Carol remained resolutely loyal as McCain�s political star rose. She says she agreed to talk to The Mail on Sunday only because she wanted to publicise her support for the man who abandoned her.

Indeed, the old Mercedes that she uses to run errands displays both a disabled badge and a sticker encouraging people to vote for her ex-husband. �He�s a good guy,� she assured us. �We are still good friends. He is the best man for president.�

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel � even by the standards of modern politics.

�McCain is the classic opportunist. He�s always reaching for attention and glory,� he said.

�After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.�

* Additional reporting by Paul Henderson in Virginia Beach and William Lowther in Washington

Find this story at www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

comment #24

le corbeau says ...

Short version: McCain threw first wife under the bus!

comment #25

D.Z. says ...

Mgmax: "We mustn't have a man like that in the White House! How terribly unrefined! What will the French think?"

They'll think we're not worth bailing out on Iraq and Afghanistan...

"Honest to God, if that's the bunch of pussies Americans have become we might as well stick a picture of Uncle Joe up in every classroom and start each day singin' the Marseillaise!"

You do realize their Revolution is modeled after our own, right? Also, if you think we're so limp, why don't you prove yourself by enlisting?

"We want a president who's so cool he makes the rest of us feel like the inferior dweebs we are. I want to feel his Harvard Law Review contempt for me every day, so it's that much sweeter when he dispenses the milk from the government tit and makes me whole again."

Yeah, kick-backs to faceless corporations which lobby for no-bid contracts are more in line with the free market.

comment #26

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