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I was told last night that Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Bastards script is around 165 pages. So at a minute a page it's not really long enough to be a two-part film, but it's too long to come in at a comfortable 115 to 120-minute length. So right away it's a pickle, even with Brad Pitt playing a major role (as Nikki Finke reported last night). I'll have a copy of this sucker by week's end and then we'll see what's what.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on July 9, 2008 at 10:29 AM
comment #1
nemo
says ...
QT seems like a guy who could riff another 40 pages off the top of his head in a single weekend, if he could ever stop partying with his pal RR.
Posted by nemo
at July 9, 2008 11:16 AM
comment #2
George Prager
says ...
These scripts take too long to write. Didn't Stallone finish COBRA in 8 hours?
Posted by George Prager
at July 9, 2008 11:20 AM
comment #3
JustThisGuy
says ...
165 minutes seems fairly par for the course for Tarantino, as I recall his first three movies all rolled in around the 2:30 to 2:40 mark. At any rate it's a hell of a lot better than having yet another two parter from QT.
Posted by JustThisGuy
at July 9, 2008 11:20 AM
comment #4
PhilipGalasso
says ...
I think it'll probably clock in somewhere around 2.5-3 hours, if only because too much after that we're talking two movies, and I don't think anyone wants that at this point. I'm really curious how the script reads compared to other scripts of his. How specifically written is the action? Stuff that would often be one or two lines describing a gunfight in an average script are much more detailed in a Tarantino script, I would think especially here.
Posted by PhilipGalasso
at July 9, 2008 11:23 AM
comment #5
Mgmax
says ...
So he shoots a 165-minute version and cuts it for release to 140 or 150, plus some deleted scenes for the DVD, how is that any different from most movies these days?
Posted by Mgmax
at July 9, 2008 11:28 AM
comment #6
D.Z.
says ...
There's no way Pitt's going to be in a geek fantasy movie. The reason he works with directors like the Coens, Gilliam, and Fincher is that they actually give him meatier roles than he can normally get in Hollywood. I don't count "True Romance", since that's technically Tony Scott.
Posted by D.Z.
at July 9, 2008 11:32 AM
comment #7
Arizona Joe
says ...
Back in more decorous times, an out-of-wedlock birth was considered a scandal. Thus, a bastard was "inglorious" by definition. "Inglorious Bastards" is an oxymoron.
Would not a better title have been "Glorious Bastards?" Knocking off that extra syllable makes the title sound better, to my ear.
The title betrays Tarantino's dearth of literary precision. I don't find him as clever as others.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at July 9, 2008 11:38 AM
comment #8
Richardson
says ...
DZ - Pitt works with those directors because he wants to be more than a pretty boy. And he does movies like 'True Romance' and 'Snatch' because he likes those sorts of movies. I am totally sure he would work with Tarantino, it's more of a question whether Tarantino would want to work with somebody who is a modern day movie star. That doesn't seem like his style. But companies will surely feel like it's a safer bet if he does.
I'm kind of shocked that Pitt is working with Aronofsky again.
Posted by Richardson
at July 9, 2008 11:39 AM
comment #9
Noel Murray
says ...
Given that Tarantino's talked about wanting to contemporize the WWII action sequences, there's a good chance that some of those pages could have a scene that reads "They shoot at each other" which will take up 10-15 minutes of screen time.
On the other hand, knowing Tarantino, there could also be 5-minute dialogue scenes that take up 20-odd pages.
Still, I'm pulling for a single film here. I thought the tightened version of DEATH PROOF was terrific; the longer DVD version was a trial.
Posted by Noel Murray
at July 9, 2008 11:41 AM
comment #10
Richard_Stone
says ...
There's slim hope for a lean mean collaborative movie since someone besides Weinstein will be funding this puppy. I doubt most studios will be eager to fund Tarantino's self-indulgence as is after Death Proof tanked.
Posted by Richard_Stone
at July 9, 2008 11:42 AM
comment #11
T. S. Idiot
says ...
Since most of those fighting in WWII were under 30, is Pitt too old?
Posted by T. S. Idiot
at July 9, 2008 11:44 AM
comment #12
Arizona Joe
says ...
I meant to say, "Inglorious Bastards" was a something of a double negative, and a redundancy.
"Glorious Bastards" is an oxymoron, and thus more catchy.
Posted by Arizona Joe
at July 9, 2008 11:49 AM
comment #13
DavidF
says ...
Arizona Joe - It's not Tarantino's title. As referenced here a few days ago, it's based on a 70s film.
And Noel said what I was going to say which is basically that I suspect page-a-minute calculations are probably out the window with Tarantino.
Posted by DavidF
at July 9, 2008 11:49 AM
comment #14
Rich S.
says ...
Arizona Joe, not to be picky, but you did bring up literary precision. Do you not mean "redundancy" rather than "oxymoron?"
Posted by Rich S.
at July 9, 2008 11:50 AM
comment #15
Mgmax
says ...
"Since most of those fighting in WWII were under 30, is Pitt too old?"
By the standards of what, The Longest Day?
Posted by Mgmax
at July 9, 2008 12:04 PM
comment #16
The Bandsaw Vigilante
says ...
Re: Jeff's "[It's] a pickle" comment --
That's a good thing, then, I take it?
(I'm not as up on my old-timey "Gen-W" argot.)
Posted by The Bandsaw Vigilante
at July 9, 2008 12:04 PM
comment #17
Edward
says ...
To me Jackie Brown is Tarantino's masterpiece. His directorial choices, his writing, the acting and cinematography were all outstanding.
Posted by Edward
at July 9, 2008 12:05 PM
comment #18
MickTravis
says ...
I think -- but have no proof other than having read QT's previous scripts -- that he sticks pretty closely to page-a-minute flow. He's certainly no David Lynch, who can take a 60 page script and stretch it across two hours.
QT tends to know exactly what he wants and seems to cut more than add. With a project he's been working on for roughly 67 years, it doesn't seem likely that he'd suddenly expand a shoot-out from one line to 15 pages. But of course I haven't read the script and won't until after I see the movie (presumably sometime in fall, 2012). I'm even going to avoid the trailers for as long as possible, go in clean.
Posted by MickTravis
at July 9, 2008 12:06 PM
comment #19
Terry McCarty
says ...
George Prager wrote:
These scripts take too long to write. Didn't Stallone finish COBRA in 8 hours?
Judging from the final results, I think Stallone wrote it on one of his lunch hours while shooting ROCKY IV.
Posted by Terry McCarty
at July 9, 2008 12:17 PM
comment #20
corey3rd
says ...
The first reel of Cobra is pure action gold. We used to just run that first reel as a "short." Too bad the rest of the film doesn't stack up to the first act genius
Posted by corey3rd
at July 9, 2008 12:26 PM
comment #21
JD
says ...
Is this the same Jeff Wells who wanted Zodiac to be LONGER... and praised the hell out of the 4-hour Che? Who cares how long the movie is, as long as it's great.
Posted by JD
at July 9, 2008 12:48 PM
comment #22
AllieAnne
says ...
I'd be curious to see the results of Tarantino directing Pitt. I think Pitt's tightest work has been with David Fincher (with the exception being Twelve Monkeys) who is, from various accounts, a perfectionist with a disciplinarian attitude. Tarantino is terrific but maybe he's a little too loose with the reins to pull a great performance out of the sometimes laconic (at least, IMO) Pitt.
Posted by AllieAnne
at July 9, 2008 1:17 PM
comment #23
MickTravis
says ...
The Onion A.V.Club is reporting that shooting is scheduled to start in October and the plan is to fast-track it so the movie can make it to Cannes next May.
http://www.avclub.com/content/newswire/filming_begins_on_tarantinos
We shall see.
Posted by MickTravis
at July 9, 2008 2:03 PM
comment #24
gruver1
says ...
Wells to JD: If a film pays in such a way that a long or longish length is vital to its potency, then let it be as long as whatever. I'm only coming from the fact that the original 1978 version is 99 minutes or thereabouts.
Posted by gruver1
at July 9, 2008 2:12 PM
comment #25
BurmaShave
says ...
Pitt doing this makes absolute sense. And it continues his amazing streak of working with the best filmmakers in the business.
Posted by BurmaShave
at July 9, 2008 2:16 PM
comment #26
Richardson
says ...
"I'm only coming from the fact that the original 1978 version is 99 minutes or thereabouts."
To my mind, it makes a lot of sense. If you're remaking a movie that you consider to be great, making it longer -- piling in more of all the stuff you loved about it -- is one of the few things you can do, unless you're talking about improved special effects. And improved special effects are not guaranteed at all -- I maintain that '34 "King Kong" has more impressive effects than '76 "King Kong".
I'm not saying Jackson's "Kong" wasn't flawed, but it kind of makes more sense to me to remake a great two hour movie as an epic three hour movie than as another two hour movie. Just following the same story beats as the original seems like a boring remake; longer running time means you can explore the world in more depth, and allow for some of those sidebars which, frankly, tend to always be the best part of a Tarantino movie.
Posted by Richardson
at July 9, 2008 2:49 PM
comment #27
BurmaShave
says ...
Also maybe they'll have Pitt laughably understate his age the way Tim Roth did in THE INCREDIBLE HULK.
Posted by BurmaShave
at July 9, 2008 4:38 PM
comment #28
Edward
says ...
Interesting comments about Pitt needing a strong director. I've always thought his performance in Interview With a Vampire to be one note, without any of the nuance the character called for.
Posted by Edward
at July 9, 2008 4:45 PM
comment #29
D.Z.
says ...
Richardson: "I am totally sure he would work with Tarantino, it's more of a question whether Tarantino would want to work with somebody who is a modern day movie star. That doesn't seem like his style. "
He worked with Bruce Willis...
T.S.: "Since most of those fighting in WWII were under 30, is Pitt too old?"
If Hanks and John Wayne can get away with it...
JD: I imagine Zodiac and Che are about the characters, and not the director's favorite movies and shows repeated by the characters.
Posted by D.Z.
at July 9, 2008 10:07 PM
comment #30
BurmaShave
says ...
Edward very true. I rewatched it recently and was shocked at how poor he was in it. Tom was literally acting circles around him. And forget nuance, how about energy? How did he not notice how much fun Cruise, Banderas, Rea and Dunst were having? He keeps it from being a total camp masterpiece, to his eternal shame.
Still, he figured a lot out fast, because the next year he did 12 MONKEYS.
Posted by BurmaShave
at July 10, 2008 5:22 AM
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