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Fair Question

Both The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan and Daily Kos's "rickrocket" wondered aloud today about the origin of John McCain's "cross in the dirt" story, which the presumptive Republican candidate repeated yesterday during his Saddleback Church discussion segment. Sulllivan and "rickrocket" aren't making firm claims, but they're both noting that the story is remarkably similar to one recounted by Alexander Solzhenitsyn in The Gulag Archipelago (or perhaps in Burt Ghezzi's The Sign of the Cross -- one or the other).

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on August 17, 2008 at 7:58 PM

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mutinyco says ...

McCain = Mr. Hand

Posted by mutinyco at August 17, 2008 8:35 PM

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James Rocchi says ...

It's not really a story -- unprovable, untracable, and irrelevant. What drove me up the wall watching the Purpose-Driven forum was contrasting the two candidates. Asked "What's 'Rich?'," one candidate had an answer -- $250,000 -- and kicked off a discussion of taxes, their role in a civilized society, how there's a collective obligation by those society has helped to return some resources to help others. The other candidate? Called us "his friends," and noted how he wanted "everyone to become rich" and generally not answer the question at all. And the former is seen as indecisive and ethereal while the second is seen as folksy and engaged. Uh, what?

Posted by James Rocchi at August 17, 2008 9:47 PM

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LYT says ...

To paraphrase The Incredibles: When everyone is rich, no-one is.

Posted by LYT at August 17, 2008 11:12 PM

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Ogami Itto says ...

John McCain was a POW?! Why hasn't this been mentioned before...?

Posted by Ogami Itto at August 18, 2008 6:41 AM

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Josh says ...

mccain blow the doors so far off obama on sat that his spin is mccain fudging details from his years long prisoner of war stay?

That they can never prove or should even dare go into??

sad

Posted by Josh at August 18, 2008 7:40 AM

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storymark says ...

Josh,
If all of McCain's supporters have your keep verbal skills, Obama is gonna do just fine.

Posted by storymark at August 18, 2008 7:42 AM

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storymark says ...

Damn, that would have made so much more sense with the word "Keen" instead of "keep".

Must use preview. Must use preview.

Edit button, Wells, wave of the future.

Posted by storymark at August 18, 2008 7:44 AM

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Count Thread says ...

Dozens of veterans serving with John Kerry question the details of his purple hearts, his "seared in his memory" non-trip into Cambodia, etc. = vile and disgusting "Swiftboating".

This, however, is a "fair question."

Got it-- thanks, Jeffery Zelter.

Posted by Count Thread at August 18, 2008 9:15 AM

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ryanv says ...

this hokey cross stuff's been around since Constantine saw one in the sky. it's just become like remaking Rio Bravo over and over again, to lesser and lesser results.

and this Warren guy...a golden calf for a new generation. Not even Falwell was as ego driven as this little schmuck. Shocking revelation I know, but I get the sense this little guy's realized he can make a lot more money and get a lot more ink for himself if he tones down the James Dobson stuff and mixes in 3 parts Oprah branding to replace the vitriol that limits the classic, "you're all going to hell" meme of a televangelist from capturing a mass market.

Posted by ryanv at August 18, 2008 9:18 AM

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Joshua Mooney says ...

I don't know about McCain ripping off Solzhenitsyn. But here's what really bugs me:

"Yesterday in Pittsburgh, Sen. John McCain professed his love for the Steelers to KDKA-TV. Asked what first comes to his mind when he thinks of Pittsburgh, McCain chuckled, "the Steelers. I was a mediocre high school athlete but I loved and adored the sports but the Steelers really made a huge impression on me particularly in my early years."

And then McCain told a rather moving story about his time as a P.O.W. "When I was first interrogated and really had to give some information because of the pressures, physical pressures on me, I named the starting lineup, defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron mates."

"Did you really?" asked the reporter.

"Yes," McCain said.

"In your POW camp?" asked the reporter.

"Yes," McCain said.

"Could you do it today?" asked the reporter.

"No, unfortunately," McCain said.

Here's one reason he likely couldn't do it today -- the Steelers aren't the team whose defensive line McCain named for his Vietnamese tormentors. The Green Bay Packers are. At least according to every previous time McCain has told this story. And the McCain campaign just told ABC News that the senator made a mistake -- it was, indeed, the Packers."

"A mistake." RIIIIIIGHT.

Posted by Joshua Mooney at August 18, 2008 9:49 AM

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T. S. Idiot says ...

Since the Steelers were famous only for mediocrity until the 70s, the reporter should have known the old gent was not being quite truthful. I look forward, however, to his telling voters in north Florida that the Buccaneers were his favorite team when he was a boy.

Posted by T. S. Idiot at August 18, 2008 10:26 AM

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Joshua Mooney says ...

Hey T.S.: Don't forget John Baker's hit on Y.A. Tittle in '64! One of the best sports photos ever. Otherwise, you are quite correct about the Steelers.

However, I have a new theory about McCain's story: Every Commie prison camp/gulag employed one fellow whose job it was to go out and silently draw a cross in the dirt, thus confusing and possibly disarming the Christian prisoners. And years later, when they were recalled and recounted, all but one such memory would be dismissed as a plagiarized lie. Pure Red psy-ops. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline evil Godless genius!

Posted by Joshua Mooney at August 18, 2008 10:50 AM

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Count Thread says ...

I guess this guy's a fabulist, too.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGZiOGI3OTQ3YWMxYzFhM2UyYTk3NzJiYTM4MGNiY2U=

Seriously. . . LAME.

Posted by Count Thread at August 18, 2008 1:43 PM

comment #14

Joshua Mooney says ...

"John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."

Hey, Count Thread? Why don't you pass the time with a game of solitaire?

Posted by Joshua Mooney at August 18, 2008 1:58 PM

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D.Z. says ...

I'm just wondering when Johnny is going to speak out about our Prez endorsing a country which doesn't allow people to have Bibles. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080817/ap_on_re_as/china_bibles_confiscated

Count: It's not any more "fair" than the "Obama is a Muslim" meme the righties have been trying to spew.

Posted by D.Z. at August 18, 2008 7:38 PM

comment #16

Terry McCarty says ...

ryanv wrote:
and this Warren guy...a golden calf for a new generation. Not even Falwell was as ego driven as this little schmuck. Shocking revelation I know, but I get the sense this little guy's realized he can make a lot more money and get a lot more ink for himself if he tones down the James Dobson stuff and mixes in 3 parts Oprah branding to replace the vitriol that limits the classic, "you're all going to hell" meme of a televangelist from capturing a mass market.

Sort ot like the later Oral Roberts who used the catchphrase "Something good will happen to you today."

Posted by Terry McCarty at August 19, 2008 1:02 AM

comment #17

Mgmax says ...

See: Peale, Norman Vincent

You've always been able to do better as a preacher in America promising country club membership for yourself than damnation for your neighbors.

Posted by Mgmax at August 19, 2008 7:42 AM

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