comment #1

chicbn872 says ...

The Karl Urban/McCoy poster is the best one of the bunch. That over-the-shoulder glare really sums up that character don't you think?

comment #2

rr3333 says ...

I believe Yelchin was hired when he was able to say 'Nuclear Wessel' somewhat coherently.

comment #3

AndrewOwens says ...

Not only is he young Checkov, he's also young Kyle Reese in T4 - big, big shoes.

comment #4

DavidF says ...

All the talk on the Clone Wars thread - that Lucas sucks, is ruining the franchise stuff - reminds me that I wanna know what the hell is going on with Star Trek.

Delayed until next May? That makes me nervous....that's a looooooong post production.

In the meantime...Yelchin is playing young Kyle Reese? I was cool with every part of the Terminator time travel paradoxes but I must admit, I never understood the Kyle Reese stuff. The time travel has to start SOMEWHERE and how can Connor send Reese back in time if he never impregnated Sarah Connor in the first place....?
Always bugs me that little hangup.

comment #5

Geoff says ...

What a cute little puppy.

comment #6

BlueRaymondBabbit says ...

The most audacious special FX challenge in "Terminator 4 Wars: Future Battle" will be getting Yelchin anywhere NEAR the level of cool that Michael Biehn displayed as Kyle "I DIDN'T BUILD THE FUCKING THING!" Reese. Good luck, youngster.

comment #7

dinovelvet says ...

Yeah seriously, Yelchin as Reese? That's just horrible! And these posters aren't much good either. Will 98% of moviegoers casually glancing at them in a theatre have the slightest clue what these are supposed to be? The Spock one will probably get some recognition, but who out there is going to get that these are supposed to be "new" versions of old characters, or that this is even Star Trek, etc? It just seems like a pointless ad campaign all round.

comment #8

BurmaShave says ...

Your standards for pudgy-faced are, as always, madness.

comment #9

High Chaparral says ...

Michael Biehn: coolest man of the 80s.

comment #10

dinovelvet says ...

With the Terminator thing, I'm guessing McG (that noted visionary) might be planning a three film arc where Reese goes from skinny, nerdy rookie to battle-hardened war veteran. Or then again, maybe its just crap casting.

comment #11

Rich S. says ...

To be fair, Chekov was never exactly the most masculine of the original cast. By Roddenberry's edict, he even wore a wig so he would more closely resemble Mickey Dolenz of the Monkees.

I'm puzzled that they're spending so much time emphasizing characters outside the "Big 3." Exploring the peripheral characters is fine in a TV series, or even a series of movies. But the first two hours needs to establish the basic id-ego-superego dynamic that made the series so popular. Are they really going to spend 20 minutes apiece developing Scotty, Uhura, Chekov and Sulu's back stories? If so, it will be a long slog.

comment #12

Joshua Mooney says ...

BlueRaymond...

Agree 100% about Michael Biehn. Terminator, Aliens, Abyss? Amazing in all three. What the hell happened to him? I heard different things, long ago, and now I can't remember.

"One POSSIBLE future! ... I don't know tech stuff..."
--Kyle Reese

comment #13

PerfectTommy says ...

Rich S. _ I believe with the Checkov character Roddenberry was going for a Davy "The Cute One" Jones look-a-like rather than a Mickey "The Funny One" Dolenz look-a-like.

comment #14

Rich S. says ...

I just checked Snopes and you are correct, PerfectTommy. At least I got the band right. Most people think it's a Beatles wig.

comment #15

Devin Faraci says ...

Yeah, Chekov was there for the teen girls. Definitely molded after Davey Jones. And in the show Chekov was always the youngest/greenest. In that respect Yelchin is perfect.

comment #16

MilkMan says ...

This is a cast fit for the Sci-Fi Channel. Is Greg "Honey, I Blew Up Jeremy Piven" Grunberg in this too?

comment #17

frankbooth says ...

Playing a Navy SEAL in three different movies probably didn't do him much good. Once he got typecast as "military dude," that was pretty much it.

Stuff like Rampage, Jade and Deadfall didn't help, either (though I love the latter just for its "Nicholas Cage misfiring on all cylinders" performance.)

The only way this Star Trek thing is gonna work is if it has deliberately bad effects, foam rubber rocks and green, antennaed go-go dancers. If they try to make it "gritty," it will completely suck.

comment #18

tophertilson says ...

Yelchin strikes me as good casting. Was Chekov some sort of manly stud/hero and I missed it?

The bit of casting that fills me with dread is John Cho. Nothing against the man, but why did they cast a Chinese-American actor to assay a Japanese-American role? Much was made of Sulu's ancestry, to say nothing of George Takel's. I still maintain to this day that the casting of all those Chinese actors in MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA was part of what sunk it. The look and the energy were just....off.

comment #19

PerfectTommy says ...

Thanks, Rich, but it's not exactly the kind of thing though I can say I'm proud to know off the top of my head.

It does seem wierd that this film will feature characters that should vary in age and stations in their careers all together in one place at this time before their tour together on the Enterprise.

(Shouldn't Spock be on the Enterprise with Capt. Christopher Pike while Kirk is first officer on another Starship while McCoy is practicing medicine on some farming planet while Scotty is working for a new warp engine design while the youngersters are at the Academy? Again, I'm not proud of what I spend much of my time thinking about.)

comment #20

MoisesChiu says ...

@tophertilson:
John Cho is Korean, not Chinese. Your argument stands, just correcting a detail.

comment #21

High Chaparral says ...

"Playing a Navy SEAL in three different movies probably didn't do him much good."

Ever listened to Michael Bay's commentary on The Rock DVD? I'm sure there's a bit where he talks about how Biehn had real difficulty getting into the role. Very strange given his previous roles.

comment #22

bildeaux says ...

For you Michael Biehn guys, go back and watch Planet Terror. He was great in that role and also hammed it up awesome in the Thanksgiving trailor.

comment #23

Mgmax says ...

"Delayed until next May?"

Well, that is the next summer after this one. If it can't make Xmas, it's pretty much got to be summer.

comment #24

Rothchild says ...

Biehn must be a drunk or an asshole because that guy is still super talented.

comment #25

tophertilson says ...

Thanks MoisesChiu.

comment #26

Rothchild says ...

Actually, I think Biehn was put in movie jail after the basketball scene in Art of War, now that I think about it.

It was pushed back because Paramount thought it should be positioned as a summer blockbuster. I still think the movie is a big risk, but I have faith in JJ and I love Kurtzman and Orci.

comment #27

rr3333 says ...

Lets get things straight ... Biehn was always an exaggerated B Movie actor.

Lets not forget, Biehn's big roles were in Cameron movies. Cameron always hired his buddies.

comment #28

The Bandsaw Vigilante says ...

Whatever happened to the "Rule of Biehn"?

Smooth-shaven = goodie, facial hair = baddie. Did I just dream this rule? Was he not evil in JADE? Doesn't he have a 'stache in THE ABYSS and DRAGON SQUAD?

It used to be so simple -- Biehn and Paxton working as a team, the rest of the universe sleeping easy...

comment #29

Rich S. says ...

Perfect Tommy, I know that Bruce Greenwood is playing Pike in the new movie, but in what capacity, I don't know.

The rumors I've heard about the plot do not fill me with confidence. It sounds like they're going to chuck most of the original series' continuity to get Spock, Kirk and McCoy together at Starfleet Academy. And the time travel thing has been done to death.

comment #30

The Bandsaw Vigilante says ...

Here's something else funny -- Biehn does K2; Paxton goes up the same mountain in VERTICAL LIMIT. They know they belong together.

comment #31

Rich S. says ...

Oh, and Bandsaw, I'd not heard the Rule of Biehn, but it makes sense. It sounds like the Kevin Kline Corollary. Clean shaven=serious part. Mustache/beard=wacky.

comment #32

dangovich says ...

Cameron extracted some solid-to-great performances from otherwise middling actors like Tom Arnold.

comment #33

Richardson says ...

"Delayed until next May? That makes me nervous....that's a looooooong post production."

Keep in mind, they were arguably the highest profile film shooting during the writers guild strike and, on top of that, the director is a member of the WGA who was outspoken in his wholehearted support of the strike.

So, for a variety of reasons, the movie was not legally able to be re-written as it was being shot to accomodate what was shot. In light of that, I'm not surprised they need a little more post-production to polish everything.

Anybody else seriously suspect that Captain Kirk is not a timeless character that can be passed around a la James Bond, but was only great (to the extent that he's great at all) because Shatner embodied the character perfectly? 'Cause I do.

comment #34

PerfectTommy says ...

Along with the Law of Biehn and the Kline Corolary, the Robin Williams Amendment:

Bearded: Crappy Drama

Clean Shaven: Crappy Comedy

comment #35

MilkMan says ...

Kevin Kline had a moustache in Consenting Adults, which was wacky in spite of it's intentions to be a serious, adult thriller, albeit one with some of the most gratuitious crane shots in film history.

comment #36

Mgmax says ...

"Perfect Tommy, I know that Bruce Greenwood is playing Pike in the new movie, but in what capacity, I don't know."

Damn, it should be Ray Liotta, I always thought he looked a lot like Jeffrey Hunter.

comment #37

Mgmax says ...

Shatner, like Charlton Heston, is one of those actors who you can't decide if they're great or terrible, but it doesn't matter because they burn with a 1000-watt intensity either way, and that's what lights up the screen. (Some might argue that Tom Cruise belongs in that group, too.)

The main reason all the later Treks have been borderline somnolent is because they don't have Shatner chewing scenery by the gross ton at the center. The first Trek was all bright primary colors, the later ones are all beige and burgundy.

comment #38

Edward says ...

I love Star Trek and will be among the first to see the new trek, but frankly I've laughed a lot at the awful acting of William Shatner and the cheesy sets. But maybe that was part of the charm of the show

comment #39

Mgmax says ...

PART?

comment #40

C-PhreekII says ...

The casting for this is all over the place. The biggest plus is they got the main three, especially Quinto (although, he should have been older). The big surprise was seeing Pine and remember back to Shatner in his Trek days prime, not the schlubby TV pitchman.

But this next batch of 2nd tier guys is pretty bad. The worst is Pegg, as much as I am a fan of Spaced and SHAUN, Scotty is a robust Scotsman from Orkney, not a dweeb from Edinburgh.

Shows the usual lack of balls over at Paramount, who must have been nervous about a cast of young unknowns and obviously insisted "Well, if we can't have Shia for Spock, can you put that Chinese guy from HAROLD & KUMAR as Sulu? Matt Damon is too old for Kirk? What about that twink my assistant moons over from Huff!?"

comment #41

alen says ...

He is a very great man. I was told that he offer many helps to a Herpes girl on a H site" STDpal com". Really?

comment #42

Rich S. says ...

Shatner, Heston, Connery, Wayne. "I'm not an actor! I'm a movie star!" And, quite frankly, the movies could use more of them these days.

comment #43

The Bandsaw Vigilante says ...

"But this next batch of 2nd tier guys is pretty bad. The worst is Pegg, as much as I am a fan of Spaced and SHAUN, Scotty is a robust Scotsman from Orkney, not a dweeb from Edinburgh."

Actually, Scotty's supposedly from Aberdeen (per "Wolf In The Fold" and other episodes...yes, I know this; I feel the deep, deep shame).

comment #44

frankbooth says ...

"...the later Treks have been borderline somnolent..."

This is probably unfair, though I've never been able to stay awake through one long enough to say for sure.

comment #45

BurmaShave says ...

Aw c'mon, INSURRECTION is special in a really goofy way.

comment #46

Ogami Itto says ...

"But this next batch of 2nd tier guys is pretty bad. The worst is Pegg, as much as I am a fan of Spaced and SHAUN, Scotty is a robust Scotsman from Orkney, not a dweeb from Edinburgh."

Actually, Scotty's supposedly from Aberdeen (per "Wolf In The Fold" and other episodes...yes, I know this; I feel the deep, deep shame).

NERDS!!
-- Ogre, Revenge of the Nerds

comment #47

Herry2008 says ...

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comment #48

Count Thread says ...

"Aw c'mon, INSURRECTION is special in a really goofy way."

Riiight. . . evil interestellar plastic-surgery addicts led by F. Murray Abraham. Riiiight.

I'm still astounded that thing got greenlit. After First Contact, I thought, "Hey, this Star Trek thing might actually have legs." But Insurrection killed it, and then Nemesis buried it (that movie is such a top-to-bottom remake of Wrath of Khan, Nick Meyer should have sued John Logan for plagiarism).

Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic about this. No reason for that, but hey, it could be fun. As long as they do some sop to explain how they ret-con everything (especially the "everybody knows everybody already while they're young" bit, which is stupid/lazy on paper). (I still don't get how Nimoy is in this-- is it a reboot? A time-travel story? The past changed somehow so the future is different?).
Of course, that "troika" at the top is what is going to hold it together-- I can buy Qunito as Spock, Chris Pike has big shoes to fill, but the real outlier is Urban-- decent actor, but Bones needs to be the perfect foil for both, and I've never seen Urban display that kind of charisma (maybe less the Georgia country doctor and more the Southern cavalier/cad? But that'd step on the Kirk-is-the-biggest-alpha-male-in-the-galaxy vibe. . . )

Oh, and the feh with you all-- Simon Pegg as Scotty is brilliant. It's the *character* that counts, and Pegg has got it.

comment #49

C-PhreekII says ...

The problem is they decided to half-ass this thing instead of either trying for a re-tooling (ala Galactica) or finding an entire cast that embodied the essences of the original cast. Why only go with a few that actually resemble their earlier counterparts instead of every one? It's the SUPERMAN RETURNS mess all over again.

Think Thread has his definitions of character mixed up, because the bottom line is that the chief engineer is the leader of his department and Pegg is just not that guy. He didn't need to be a old school man like James Doohan. Quiet, thoughtful LaVar Burton gave off a leadership vibe that was more like a nurturing camp counselor yet you can still see people would follow him.

Will be interesting to see how Abrams and Co. made this concept work. Seems they only have two choices: first voyage under Kirk (which makes the choices of Pine and Quinto too young) or some sort intersecting stories structure with them only coming together at the very end (with Kirk and McCoy off adventuring together while Spock serves under Pike with the rest).

PS - And the nerds ate cheerleader pussy during the carnival, so what's you're point?

comment #50

C-PhreekII says ...

Tried to catch that you're/your error, but Wells finally got around to enabling the block to keep posters from double or triple posting the same entry.

comment #51

BurmaShave says ...

"evil interestellar plastic-surgery addicts led by F. Murray Abraham. "

How does that not sound special in a really goofy way? How cold your heart must be! haha

comment #52

rr3333 says ...

Amazing how a thread like this gets the NERDS to come out of hiding.

Contrary to the contrarians, I think in JJ Abrams hands, this should be good. He's very talented. MI3 was excellent.

comment #53

Richardson says ...

I only just saw the picture, but if that's Anton Yelchin, he looks like he should be playing young Julien Bashir more than young Pavel Chekov (who was, frankly, already really really young to start -- is he going to be like the kid in 'Galaxy Quest'?).

comment #54

DavidF says ...

Richardson - that's exactly what I was thinking: He looks like Alexander Siddig.

As someone said above, the problem with the posters is that the characters just aren't that iconic. Spock is recognizable, because he's Spock. If I didn't know about this movie already I'd never guess Pegg is Scotty or Pine is Kirk...maybe Uhura and Sulu are obvious once you've figured out the context.

Beyond that, I don't see what these posters say except "It's Star Trek! With unrecognizable people!" And maybe that's what they're going for but only a super nerd is gonna grab these and hang em on the wall like, say, that first poster of Anakin Skywalker with Vader's shadow on the wall...

An iconic shot of the new Enterprise under construction, like in the teaser, would have been more gripping and more indicative of what's coming, IMHO.

comment #55

AuggieBenDoggie says ...

After some initial trauma, I'm ok with a reboot. My one gripe of it is, why not just start with Kirk getting command and the first mission of the Enterprise, why start with the awful Starfleet Academy concept that's been kicking around Paramount for over 25 years. Ugh.

comment #56

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