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Both shots created by photographer/Photoshopper Jill Greenberg, whose work is on the cover of this month's Atlantic, whose editor has apologized for Greenberg's Dracula makeover.
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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on September 15, 2008 at 5:41 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Knew there'd be shit since I got my copy of the Atlantic last week. I figured he might have just taken a bad photo, anyone notice how bad Obama looked on the cover of Time recently?

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 5:48 PM

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PoisonSkin Author Profile Page says ...

nah he's zombieMcCain

http://zombiemccain.com/

Posted by PoisonSkin Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:00 PM

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frankbooth Author Profile Page says ...

Not particularly clever, and not helpful. Just more ammo for the "dirty libruls are smearing a good man" crowd.

People like Greenberg may as well be working for McCain's campaign.

Posted by frankbooth Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:01 PM

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bmcintire Author Profile Page says ...

The picture on the left (what with the harsh lighting and low camera angle) looks a bit sinister, but worlds better than the multi-light-source glob of shining wax they went with for the actual cover.
The vampire shot, apart from being sophomoric (and truly unappealing to look at) will more than likely cost her future work with anyone but The Huffington Post.

Posted by bmcintire Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:01 PM

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Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page says ...

As much as I like the photoshopped pics, who the hell would ever hire this person to photograph them after this, knowing it might happen again?

Posted by Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:24 PM

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buster Author Profile Page says ...

There was a great line in "Mad Men' that applies here; the episode where they were reviewing copy for Mohawk Airlines: "stop writing for other writers".

It's not "dirty libruls" smearing a good man, it's stupid, smug liberals happy to hand this election away. Seriously, who is the audience for this shit but people who are already voting for Obama? What is this self-medicating bullshit going to accomplish but getting the right even more riled up??

I don't know who's worse ... the "hussein" hyterics or the actual Obama supporters who would rather share a wink with their compatriates than actually win a damn election.

Posted by buster Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:33 PM

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Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page says ...

I am the audience for "this shit".

I'm not a Republican or Democrat. Just an impartial observer. (and or the record, you ALL sound like idiots....how long till this frigging thing is over?).

I do like the funny pictures though.

Posted by Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:39 PM

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frankbooth Author Profile Page says ...

What country are you posting from, Gordie?

Posted by frankbooth Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:51 PM

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ZayTonday Author Profile Page says ...

I'm trying to remember who said that line "Gotta keep your sense of humor".... Oh yeah, it was John McCain, in response to a question regarding his thoughts an the lie-ridden Jerome Corsi hatchet book; "The Obama Nation".

Posted by ZayTonday Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 6:56 PM

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Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page says ...

Stupid, pointless and childish.

Right when the media was starting to call McCain and Palin on their bullshit & lies, along comes Greenberg to throw them a lifeline. Her unprofessional (and probably actionable) stunt will allow them to make her the center of attention just when the financial crises was going to make many people wonder "You know, maybe having someone who's pretty smart in the White House might be a good idea."

Nice going, you witless idiot.

Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 7:25 PM

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Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page says ...

frankbooth-

I'm not sure what the point of your post is. It almost sounds like you're suggesting that I'm not entitled to live in America without being a registered voter, which would just be silly.

As a non-voter, I'm in the majority here, by a vast margin, so maybe you should leave.

There's only one political party in this country. They're called The Government. The only thing a two party system is good for is ensuring that nothing will ever get accomplished. It only works of course, by getting all you rubes to buy into it, which is, apparently shockingly easy (which is, I'm assuming, because you enjoy being lied to and patronized and at the same time have no constructive outlet for your anger?)

My life will not change in any measurable way whether Obama or McCain wins, just as my life is no different today after 8 years of Bush than it would have been under Gore.

Posted by Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 8:09 PM

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MickTravis Author Profile Page says ...

What planet are you posting from, Gordie?

Posted by MickTravis Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 8:32 PM

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Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page says ...

Gordie, if one of 'em starts a war with Russia, your life will change a lot.

Posted by Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 8:52 PM

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Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page says ...

If one of them starts a war with Russia, none of us will be missed. Just a bunch of angry, self-involved, humorless, greedy, egotistical meat heads who's main purpose is borrowing money to buy things we don't need.

Maybe it's time someone pulled the plug.

Posted by Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 8:56 PM

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p.Vice Author Profile Page says ...

I think that just about wraps up this conversation.

Posted by p.Vice Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 9:12 PM

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Jack Price Author Profile Page says ...

"Our great war... is the spiritual war. Our great depression... is our lives."

Am I right Gordie or am I right?

Please, knock off the childish Tyler Durden B.S. for a second and try backing up some of your comments about "The Government" with anything other than lazy blanket statements that have no foundation in deeper analysis.

I'll accept apathy only if the person advocating it has done even a modicum of self-exploration into why they feel this is the only way. Anything less and it's just more shortsighted ignorance, which we're already drowning in.

Posted by Jack Price Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 9:15 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Lachance you are a true selfish twat and I hope the fires in which you burn one day are especially slow.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 9:20 PM

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buster Author Profile Page says ...

What we have here is a nihilist masquerading as an existentialist.

You're right, Gordie. You could light yourself on fire right now and in about a hundred years there will be no evidence of your existence. And in a few billion yeas when the sun swells to a red giant and engulfs the earth there will be no evidence of our existence at all (save for the radio waves and junk we've expelled into space).

Those of us who are well off may not be materially impacted, that 's an astute inference ... but what about the people on the fringes? Sounds like you've led a nice life and god bless you, but you take for granted the fact that your mother cuts the crust off of your bread and makes your bed.

Posted by buster Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 9:25 PM

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Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page says ...

Say what you want. I'll outlive you all, judging by the anger you're all carrying around, especially that Burma fellow.

Posted by Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 9:47 PM

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MickTravis Author Profile Page says ...

Gordie doesn't care about anything. I swear, he just hasn't been the same since that summer he saw that dead body. Thirty years ago.

Now here's this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U1-OmAICpU

Posted by MickTravis Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 10:15 PM

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MovieBob Author Profile Page says ...

"Gordie, if one of 'em starts a war with Russia, your life will change a lot."

If there's a war with Russia, neither of them will have "started" it.

That's the single scariest thing that most of America still hasn't quite woken up to yet: We don't get to decide when the wars start anymore.

If the Russians move on an ally of ours, or if Iran nukes the Israelis, or if the Israelis decimate Iran to prevent nuking, or if Al Qaeda gains control of Pakistan's nuclear stockpile... we're at war, and there isn't anything any president or voter can do about it.

Posted by MovieBob Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 11:08 PM

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Major Calloway Author Profile Page says ...

Sounds like you've led a nice life and god bless you, but you take for granted the fact that your mother cuts the crust off of your bread and makes your bed.

Oh, I seem to remember a certain young man who said, "The world is a big theater-in-the round as far as I'm concerned, and I'd love to watch it spin itself into oblivion."

Wait, maybe that was Buster...

Posted by Major Calloway Author Profile Page at September 15, 2008 11:38 PM

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Gnome de Guerre Author Profile Page says ...

Gordie's right in a way. Neither of the 2 major parties has fielded their most qualified people to lead this country. I don't ave a good sense of either McCain's or Obama's leadership abilities. I've gotten a taste of their personalities, and of some of their decisions, but I don't have much insight into how they make decisions, nor how they solve problems. If I wrote a job listing for POTUS and took resumes and applications, neither of these two would be in the top. FUCK! Isn't that just... tragic?

So with the choice of undercooked fish or overcooked chicken, does it matter? Does it *really* matter? Will Obama be able to do anything that'll truly improve healthcare? Education? The trajectory of American power over the next 20 years? Will McCain? We've just gone through one of the worst (so far)... it'll take more than mediocrity to pull us back onto the horse and make it gallop in the right direction. Not saying it can't be done, and maybe even by Obama or McCain, just saying there's been zero evidence either of them is up to it. ZERO EVIDENCE.

Posted by Gnome de Guerre Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 12:01 AM

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Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page says ...

We don't get to decide when the wars start anymore.

Not forging a military alliance with countries that have decades-long civil wars with Russian-allied dissidents would be a pretty good start, though.

Posted by Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 12:07 AM

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Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page says ...

Also...

If the Russians move on an ally of ours

They already did, and thankfully we are not yet at war.

Posted by Luke Y. Thompson Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 12:10 AM

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D.Z. Author Profile Page says ...

Gnome: "Neither of the 2 major parties has fielded their most qualified people to lead this country. "

Yes, because Obama is so much more unqualified than a guy who's never once been a success in his entire life.

Posted by D.Z. Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 12:29 AM

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Craptastic Author Profile Page says ...

Greenberg seems to be a student of Lynch. Those two pics look as if they came straight out of Twin Peaks. Leland Palmer/ Bob.

I say good show, Jill!

Posted by Craptastic Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 1:00 AM

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frankbooth Author Profile Page says ...

You pull your plug first, Gordie. Write back and tell us what you see, and if the view is nice enough, maybe we'll all join you.

Gnome --

Evidence? How can there be, until one of them is elected? It's all conjecture until several years from now.

Clinton was unqualified. Bush was unqualified. Most people now have an opinion over who was better, or at least who was worse.

To put it another way: you've been eating the chicken for the last eight years. If it agrees with you, you know where to get another helping.

Posted by frankbooth Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 1:06 AM

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longrunner Author Profile Page says ...

Your hectoring (you say he will burn in hell because he doesn't want to vote in an American election?!) is not going to change his mind, so just get over yourselves. To each, his own.

Posted by longrunner Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 4:27 AM

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Brian R Author Profile Page says ...

Gordie, the last eight years night not have affected your life much, but the thousands of soldiers and civilains now dead, maimed or metally affected by the fuckwits who've been running your country might have someting different to say. People like you are part of the problem. And I'm not even American - but the decisions of your leaders affect many more people than just Americans.

Posted by Brian R Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 8:59 AM

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Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page says ...

Brian, Do you know what the average enlisted man would say if he heard me pontificating on how we got into Iraq, or whether or not we belong there? He would say "Shut the fuck up, civilian." In other words, if I haven't served, it's none of my business.

To which I say, he's right. It's none of my business. Neither are the casualties of an all volunteer army. You can't have it both ways.

Posted by Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 9:19 AM

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dinther Author Profile Page says ...

Spare me this, "if you haven't served, you can't speak" bullshit.

I haven't given birth, but I can still speak out against policies which unfairly target pregnant women. I make enough money, but can still speak out against policies which hurt the poor.

The problem with the last 8 years is that people like you (Gordie) have been too timid and supine to speak out against things that are plainly stupid and wrong. Soldiers are supposed to execute military policy, not decide whether it is right or wrong.

Posted by dinther Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 9:42 AM

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Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, now I get it. It's not the 40 million some odd morons who re-elected an illiterate moron, it's all me.

Just so you know, George Bush and Bill Clinton are friends. So are Obama and McCain. The only way they can motivate the illiterate cheese-eaters who make up their voter bases is to pretend they dislike each other's politics, which gets all you guys whipped up into a frenzy.

The very act of buying into this WWE roadshow should be embarrassing. But you all seem to enjoy being played and pandered to like children.

I'll vote when there's a legitimate 3rd party candidate, or I won't. Them's my rights.

Posted by Gordie Lachance Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 9:58 AM

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dinther Author Profile Page says ...

Gordio, just a moment ago you were telling people to shut the fuck up about the Iraq war. And now you cast yourself as the victim?

Part of the reason those "morons" voted for Bush was that not enough people spoke out about what a stupid and immoral decision it was. You just posted something saying that they don't have any business commenting on it if they haven't served. So yes, you are part of the problem.

Posted by dinther Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 10:15 AM

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MattyC Author Profile Page says ...

"I'll vote when there's a legitimate 3rd party candidate, or I won't."

Why aren't you voting for Nader, trying to shake things up at least? There will never be a legitimate 3rd party candidate if disaffected voters such as yourself don't, you know, vote for one.

Sitting on the sidelines and saying you'll play ball when everything's fair is the least interesting thing possible.

Posted by MattyC Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 10:40 AM

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Ghost072 Author Profile Page says ...

Boy, there is nothing more annoying than someone standing on the sideline while bitching that the game is stupid. You're just so much more advanced than the rest of us, Gordie, waiting for a non-existent 3rd party to rise. You get all of the told you so's with none of the grief. Way to go, champ...

Posted by Ghost072 Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 10:46 AM

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Ghost072 Author Profile Page says ...

Yeah, what MattyC said! (I really need to refresh before posting, or post a little quicker)

Posted by Ghost072 Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 10:48 AM

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JChasse Author Profile Page says ...

Hey, comic book fans... doesn't McCain look like he was drawn by Alex Ross?

Posted by JChasse Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 12:56 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Wow, JChasse, now that you mention it, you are absolutely right.

Somewhat reminiscent of this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pantufla/114081011/

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at September 16, 2008 1:39 PM

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