comment #1

SpinDozer says ...

I think the Guv's choice in weaponry is the Colt M4, but with the Russians so close, maybe she did do a little foreign exchange.

comment #2

JHRussell says ...

Do you eat beef, Jeff? Another "large grazing animal" killed for the table. How about chicken? Pork products? Does the killing of these animals keep you from eating them?

comment #3

figaso says ...

Just like us humans, big game have the habit of soiling themselves when smelling their own impending death. Looks like a nice clean throat shot - resulting in the beast choking on its own blood. 10 to 1 she didn't taste one gram of that wonderfully gamey meat....

Any shots at what Carey Boo is raising his head to say to us VP vetters?

comment #4

mutinyco says ...

If she was a real American she would've drank its blood like C. Thomas Howell in "Red Dawn!"

comment #5

AbeGoldfarb says ...

This chick is poison. Troopergate, abstinence-only advocate with a pregnant teen daughter, ties to Ted Stevens...

So long, McCain. It was nice while it lasted.

comment #6

gruver1 says ...

Wells to mutinyco: In all seriousness, if you're going to slaughter a big animal I think you should "be that thing" and give yourself over to the whole John Milius routine and...yes!...drink its blood. You should cut its chest open, reach into the rib cage and rip the heart out, chug at least a pint of red vino and then take a big carniverous bite and then chew the ventricles and aortas with relish....arrrghhh!

comment #7

NotImpressedYet says ...

If that caribou ended up as steaks in their freezer, I'm not sure what the big deal is. I've never hunted before, but do eat meat. Ever read or see Fast Food nation? I guarantee you that caribou had a much much higher quality of life than your average industrialized cow.

comment #8

Jimmycrackcorn says ...

Making fun of hunting. Now there's a surefire way to help win the election for Obama. After all, we are a nation of vegans.

As an Obama supporter, I usually like the political updates here, for sheerly partisan reasons, but even I am feeling nostalgic now for the days when this was a movie site.

comment #9

BurmaShave says ...

Would it make you feel better knowing she's raising the Caribou's children as her own?

comment #10

Griff says ...

Time to put the microscope on Obama...oh, wait, that's being part of the rightwing racist, red-state mouth-breathing, wife-beating, non-reading hit squad!

Sarah Palin seems fairly upfront about who she is. She, to borrow a cliche, walks the talk. While with Barack, he is his brother's keeper. Unless, of course, you actually are his brother...then you live in squalid poverty.

Sarah Palin is the woman feminists have been saying for years women should be. She worked hard, rose on her own merits (she didn't, cough, cough, get elected as carpetbag Senator based on her famous husband's last name, cough), she took on the patriarchy and she won.

She just had the unforgivable bad taste to be a Republican and a woman who seems to practice her faith in her daily life, not simply when it's conveniently public.

comment #11

Mr. Muckle says ...

Pro-life my ass. Just be unfortunate enough to be an animal or a human of a different religion or country in the way of their political and other fortunes, and these people will cut you down with gleeful hilarity. And I AM a vegetarian repulsed by their hypocritical bullshit.

comment #12

corey3rd says ...

Unless you drink the blood and scream, "Wolverinesssssss!" You are merely thrill killing.

comment #13

Chicago48 says ...

I agree with Jimmy Crackcorn. However, Peta will have a field day with that picture. I don't have a problem with it, it's how they live in the northern part of the country & Canada.

comment #14

americanrat says ...

Jesus, seriously, who cares what she or anyone else does.

comment #15

TheJeff says ...

"But, Mommy, how will Santa find our house without Rudolph?"

comment #16

D.Z. says ...

First Abu Ghraib and now this, huh? Republicans must really be into snuff films.

Griff: "She worked hard, rose on her own merits (she didn't, cough, cough, get elected as carpetbag Senator based on her famous husband's last name, cough),"

She just made unsavory connections with people like Ted Stevens.

comment #17

broadstreetbully says ...

If they eat it, I'm fine with it. There's simply nothing better than fresh deer meat. I just don't understand hunting purely for sport.

comment #18

buster says ...

Wells, aren't you a liberal?? Is she harming another human being's ability to pursue life, liberty, or happiness by killing this moose??? Dear god, man, stop pretending to be a liberal and start acting like one!

You are EMBARASSING yourself with these personal attacks, and it's this same type of venom that gets the far right riled up and into the polls. You are playing into the republican hands, don't you see that??

comment #19

Aladdin Sane says ...

Yes, in Canada we all have a big ass hunting rifle and kill a caribou at least thrice a year. In fact I see there's one right now outside my window. BRB!

comment #20

D.Z. says ...

buster: "Wells, aren't you a liberal?? Is she harming another human being's ability to pursue life, liberty, or happiness by killing this moose???"

No, she's just senselessly killing an animal which she doesn't need to survive and which isn't even threatening her life in the name of the Second Amendment, since she has no other need for a gun in Alaska.

comment #21

MathewM says ...

This is a pretty stupid thread. You could pick on Sarah Palin for some things but a picture of her standing next to a dead Moose that she shot either for sport, food or population control is pretty lame. Are you going to start posting photos of Teddy Roosevelt standing next to a dead bear he shot for sport? Wait he was a conservationist and a hunter. For a city dwelling liberal that must make their head spin.

comment #22

D.Z. says ...

Mathew: "Are you going to start posting photos of Teddy Roosevelt standing next to a dead bear he shot for sport? Wait he was a conservationist and a hunter."

T.R. was a conservationist when it came to forests. Palin is supporting a party which doesn't seem to care if she gets another Exxon oil spill in her state.

comment #23

buster says ...

No, she's just senselessly killing an animal which she doesn't need to survive and which isn't even threatening her life in the name of the Second Amendment, since she has no other need for a gun in Alaska

Don't push your sense of morality onto someone else...isn't that the liberal ethos???? Disagree with it personally, but how dare you condemn it with a straight face

comment #24

D.Z. says ...

buster: "Don't push your sense of morality onto someone else...isn't that the liberal ethos????"

I'm not pushing my morality, just expressing my opinion. If she wants to kill helpless animals, then she has the legal right to do so. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it, though.

comment #25

TheJeff says ...

That's not a moose. It's a caribou -- a reindeer. When is Bill O'Reilly going to start talking about Sarah Palin's war on Christmas?

comment #26

Jimmycrackcorn says ...

"No, she's just senselessly killing an animal which she doesn't need to survive and which isn't even threatening her life in the name of the Second Amendment, since she has no other need for a gun in Alaska."

If you're a vegan, fine. If not, do you find the idea of people who kill their own food somehow more abhorrent than the rest of us who rely on McDonald's or Wolfgang Puck's steakhouse to do it?

Are you really so locked into your blue state that you imagine everyone who does it does it to prove a second amendment point? There are plenty of diehard liberal hunters--I know some of them. So unless you really believe that we should all subsist on fruits and vegetables, you're just being an asshole at this point.

comment #27

D.Z. says ...

Jimmy: "If not, do you find the idea of people who kill their own food somehow more abhorrent than the rest of us who rely on McDonald's or Wolfgang Puck's steakhouse to do it?"

They're providing a service to people who need it or at least who might need it. Shooting an animal whose meat you probably don't need is just pointless and wasteful-not to mention likely to screw up the food chain and subsequently the environment.

"There are plenty of diehard liberal hunters--I know some of them."

But do they make their living as hunters or hunt for sport and/or some murderous form of gratification? Therein lies the difference.

comment #28

corey3rd says ...

It's only a flesh wound

comment #29

BNick says ...

Tis but a scratch!

comment #30

broadstreetbully says ...

D.Z., fresh meat tastes better. That's why many hunters hunt. What's the difference between going to a steakhouse where the cow was butchered, or killing your meat yourself?

comment #31

D.Z. says ...

broad: I'd imagine the difference is that, in the latter case, you only consume the meat you need.

comment #32

BNick says ...

Is this like Oregon Trail where you shoot like 2,000 pounds of meat and it tells you you can only carry 80 back to the wagon?

comment #33

quintus arrius says ...

I love bicoastalites imagining that Palin carved a couple of nice steaks out of this caribou and then left the rest to rot.

You got a lot to learn about how folks where there isn't delivery sushi eat, but here's a clue: sausage.

comment #34

Jimmycrackcorn says ...

Wow, D.Z. I am flaggergasted. Do you really imagine that the nation's millions of hunters go out and kill wild animals and then leave the carcasses to rot? Or do you understand that they consume the animals, yet think that McDonald's consumers "need" or "might need" to eat to survive, but people who hunt for some of their food have no such substance needs?

As for the idea that hunting "screws up the food chain"... You really haven't thought about this for more than 15 seconds of your life, have you? Granted, there've been a few boners in the industrial age, like the mass bison wipeout. But you do know that hunters hunting has been part of the food chain for tens of thousands of years, right? And that there is management in place in the modern age to license hunters, have strict hunting seasons for different types of animals, impose limits on kills, etc.? Good God.

I could never pull the trigger on an animal myself, but it's because I'm a sissy, not because I have some citified notion that chicken sandwiches grow in greenhouses.

comment #35

Ogami Itto says ...

If they eat it, I'm fine with it. There's simply nothing better than fresh deer meat. I just don't understand hunting purely for sport.

Unless it's hunting humans for sport. That I totally understand.

comment #36

arteye says ...

Chicago 48: "it's how they live in the northern part of the country & Canada."

Now there's a really "informed" statement from the lower 48. Yes, we all live in igloos and chew whale blubber too.

comment #37

arteye says ...

bsb: "fresh meat tastes better. That's why many hunters hunt."

So did she and the kids build a fire and roast caribou on the spot? I've heard a lot of reasons for hunting game but never this one. If this kill ended up on the Governor's table it wouldn't have been until weeks later (after hanging and butchering and most likely freezing). So what's fresh about that?

comment #38

messiahcomplexio says ...

hey, our current Vp shoots wingless birds and old men in the face.

I see this as progress.

comment #39

The Hoyk says ...

When I just saw the picture and hadn't read the text, I thought I was looking at an outtake from FROZEN RIVER.

comment #40

D.Z. says ...

Jimmy: "Do you really imagine that the nation's millions of hunters go out and kill wild animals and then leave the carcasses to rot?"

That's not what I said. I'm saying that they kill animals for food they can get elsewhere. But, actually, leaving some of their carcasses to rot wouldn't be such a bad idea, since the other predators would benefit.

"but people who hunt for some of their food have no such substance needs?"

Well, if they can afford a rifle and ammo and other assorted hunting gear on a regular basis, probably not.

"But you do know that hunters hunting has been part of the food chain for tens of thousands of years, right? "

True, but most of us have moved on since then, while those who continue the custom generally do it for sport and profit.

"And that there is management in place in the modern age to license hunters, have strict hunting seasons for different types of animals, impose limits on kills, etc.?"

Not if McCain becomes President, since Bush is already taking certain species off the endangered list...

comment #41

D.Z. says ...

*benefit, instead of us just stealing all their meat*

comment #42

Jimmycrackcorn says ...

"I'm saying that they kill animals for food they can get elsewhere."

Right, that they can get elsewhere by having someone else kill their animals for them. So, essentially, your position is that it is nobler for a man to eat food that is killed for him by someone else, out of his sight, in a slaughterhouse, than it is to hunt the animals himself and eliminate the middleman. Why adding an extra link to the carnivore chain is inherently morally superior isn't clear, but it's your position and you're entitled to it.

comment #43

Ogami Itto says ...

Another righteous kill:

http://www.reason.com/convention2008/show/128443.html

comment #44

W. Minge says ...

What D.Z. is getting at is that the caribou hasn't been earmarked for slaughter -- it hasn't been bred to eventually become a vital component of a McMeal. It can be left well enough alone to live its life, if folks like Palin so choose.

comment #45

Lars says ...

I see no proof that she shot this animal. As far as we know, a wild shot from the gun of Tiger killer Putin crossed the Bering Strait and nailed this animal. She may even be trying to help it!

comment #46

AuggieBenDoggie says ...

I sure hope that every person in this thread lifting up their pettiecoats in horror cancels their reservation for old homestead or the like, and raids their fridge, purging it of all animal products.

Incredible..

comment #47

Jimmycrackcorn says ...

"What D.Z. is getting at is that the caribou hasn't been earmarked for slaughter -- it hasn't been bred to eventually become a vital component of a McMeal. It can be left well enough alone to live its life, if folks like Palin so choose."

I doubt that's what D.Z. is getting at; your nonsensical point seems to be completely different from his nonsensical point. Unless D.Z. wants to also claim your notion that is okay to kill animals in slaughterhouses and not in the wild because the former kind were bred to be sledgehammered and the latter had at least a shot (so to speak) at keeling over from old age. Tell it to PETA, my friend!

comment #48

W. Minge says ...

Jimmycrackcorn: No, it's not completely different at all, but, you're right, it is nonsensical -- the whole situation is nonsensical. You seem to be grabbing at straws a bit, though, trying to reduce what you sensitively perceive to be an opposing view to simple black-n'-white. (Incidentally, I don't necessarily disagree with you -- nowhere in my previous post did I explicitly approve of slaughterhouses -- but was instead trying to understand where D.Z. was coming from, correctly or not.) But if we were to take my "point" seriously for a moment -- if that's at all possible -- don't you think it makes at least a modicum of sense to preserve life where we can? Or do you think it's an all-or-nothing situation? Would you take umbrage at someone who waxes indignant about canned lion hunting while munching down on a hamburger?

comment #49

madskrilla says ...

"Sarah Palin is the woman feminists have been saying for years women should be"

Anti violence-against-women legislation, anti- equal pay, anti-choice?

Seriously, that's feminist? On which planet?

She's the perfect face for the Republican Party, not for feminists -- a corporate shill who wants to destroy the environment, force women not to end their pregnancies if they want to do so, thinks global warming is a lie, is so anti-science that she wants to teach religion as if it were science, thinks "under God" was written by the Founding Fathers, does not know what a VP does (tenth grade level information). She's a redneck Dick Cheney. She's perfect for the party.

comment #50

frankbooth says ...

I respect honest sportsmen who hunt bears with Bowie knives, lions with bow-and-arrow and great whites with spearguns (as long as they're in the water and not in a shark cage).

The rest are sissies.