comment #1

Redmond says ...

From The Up Take:

"Quinnel says she obtained the information on Obama being an Arab at "her local library" and from a pamphlet obtained at a local McCain campaign office (provided by a fellow volunteer not the campaign itself)."

This is apparently being picked up by CNN and NBC News. Somewhere, Steve Schmidt is wishing he never met Karl Rove.

comment #2

buckzollo says ...

What an ignorant hillbilly. Of course, you posted this because her favorite movie must be DELIVERANCE. [Phone number deleted -- Gayle's state of mind is punishment in and of itself -- I don't think she should be called or harassed.]

comment #3

Josh Massey says ...

That's wonderful, Buck. An elderly, obviously confused woman - best to make her life a living hell than to just leave her alone. Very compassionate of you.

Posting that number makes you 100 times worse than her.

comment #4

thevisceral says ...

Leave my mom alone.

comment #5

George Prager says ...

Gayle and BurmaShave are having a very nice heart-to-heart phone conversation right now.

comment #6

cinefan says ...

A couple of film quotes come instantly to mind:

"The horror! The horror!" (Apocalypse Now)
"Be afraid! Be Very Afraid!" (Cronenberg's The Fly)

comment #7

Mjs says ...

Unfortunately, I don't think she's alone in her thinking. But she obviously read some right wing propaganda and is repeating it as truth. Somebody, one of her many grandkids maybe, needs to pull her aside and tell her to shut the hell up in front of cameras.

comment #8

MDOC says ...

McCain get any credit for handling the question with class? All the people here have been going nuts for weeks stating that the guy is a racist and he's inciting all these people. He's a "decent family man citizen".
It's a shame we haven't seen enough of this McCain it might had been more interesting. I'm watching football and they keep playing these commercials which attack Obama with intangibles, he's an "opportunist" and not prepared to lead in a crisis. The Obama commericals effectively pick at specific points in McCain's health care plan. Way better.
The "McCain rally as pep rally of hate and ignorance" story has really gotten a lot of play over the last week. It's been parroted by Huffington, Dowd, Frank Rich, all the usual echo chamber stops. It's been a good strategy, the reality is that you can find crazies at any rally. Obama was in Philadelphia all week, it's amazing you haven't heard what's in the hearts and minds of those folks. I live here it's uglier and more violent than any back woods hick could ever dream. It's no reflection on Obama, just as McCain is stuck with the Quinnells.

comment #9

snackyx says ...

If someone sets fire to your house, do you pat them on the back and shake their hand when they help you put it out?

comment #10

Rev. Slappy says ...

It continually amazes me what people will believe in a forwarded email.

comment #11

buckzollo says ...

Massey she drew first blood. But seriously contain the fake outrage as that number was readily, freely and legally available with two clicks of the mouse. I ain't 100 times worse than anybody, fool.

comment #12

Ogami Itto says ...

John McCain has become Gollum.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/opinion/11collins.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Money quote:

Remember how we used to joke about John McCain looking like an old guy yelling at kids to get off his lawn? It’s only in retrospect that we can see that the keep-off-the-grass period was the McCain campaign’s golden era. Now, he’s beginning to act like one of those movie characters who steals the wrong ring and turns into a troll.

During that last debate, while he was wandering around the stage, you almost expected to hear him start muttering: “We wants it. We needs it. Must have the precious.”

comment #13

Jack Price says ...

MDOC, please cite what you've heard at these Obama rallies that would put such gems as "kill him!" and "off with his head" to shame. As much as I resent how a good portion of the MSM has turned into unabashed yellow journalism, I at least know what they are specifically referring to. A general air of discontent won't cover it.

comment #14

iamwhoiam says ...

Well, the new Gallup poll has Obama up only by 7. So clearly some people are listening to these imbeciles.

comment #15

Jay T. says ...

The sheer number of people who continue to vote against their own best interests continues to amaze me.

comment #16

MDOC says ...

Jack Price, I haven't been to any Obama rallies so I can't site anything but how many McCain rallies have you attended? I know, I know you hear clips. Obviously there is a movement to document these yahoos. Obama spent the weekend in Philadelphia, he spoke in North Philadelphia near Temple University an area known affectionately as "the badlands" .There are plenty of folks where if someone would have dug they could have gotten something juicy, but nobody bothered, it's not the strategy. The LA times ran this quote
"Retired teacher Beverly Wood, 59, responded well. "I've seen him on TV, in the debates. But to see him in person . . . he's so engaging.

"I've never felt like this before. It's a very strong emotional connection, a spiritual connection."

Look I know he's beloved here, and I've said it quite a few times Obama's a good candidate but tell me there isn't some media strategery at play here.

comment #17

Josh Massey says ...

"Massey she drew first blood."

Good lord Buck, you're a monumentally weak person if you're going to let a 75-year-old Minnesota woman draw "first blood." Man up.

Liberals love to discuss "talking points," by the way - I'm sure these unending stories in the past few days about five-or-so idiotic McCain supporters were all original ideas. Right?

comment #18

Jack Price says ...

You're safer off speculating that the fanatics yelling these comments are really plants hired by Obama's campaign to bring McCain down. Which in that case, I guess a whole flock of plants were booing him last Friday after McCain tried to act civil and diffuse the fears about his candidate.

As of this time, no xenophobic or life-threatening remarks are making their way to the public eye, let alone to the actual microphones, from the sites of Obama rallies. Unless every mainstream network out there is collectively censoring their footage and turning a blind eye, there is no reason to believe that the rhetoric coming from Obama's base is anywhere comparable to what we've heard this past week.

I fully realize that the media coverage largely makes it come across like "McCain/Palin Supporters Gone Wild!" The saboteur youtube videos confronting the supporters outside of the rallies doesn't help this perception at all, and if anything will escalate the red state/blue state tensions to levels far exceeding what were ever imaginable back in 2004.

I'm miserable about this. It's grown to the point where intelligent and well-read McCain supporters are afraid to talk about why they approve of his fiscal policies over Obama's for fear of being judged as xenophobic just like the rest of the pitchfork-wielding mob. The communication has completely shut down. Maybe for the rest of this campaign.

My request from you is to post any opposing evidence you can find if similar fiery discourse is coming from Obama's camp. If it's there, then I'll need to prepare for the sheer cultural warfare as best I can...

comment #19

D.Z. says ...

Josh: "An elderly, obviously confused woman - best to make her life a living hell than to just leave her alone. Very compassionate of you."

So when are you going to speak out against illegal government surveillance again?

Jack: "It's grown to the point where intelligent and well-read McCain supporters are afraid to talk about why they approve of his fiscal policies"

He doesn't have any fiscal policies!

comment #20

DarthCorleone says ...

Having watched all this crap the past several days, I'm terrified that something is going to happen to Obama. Regardless of which candidate or what policies you support, you must acknowledge that if such a thing were to happen, the resulting tear in this nation's fabric and the ripple effects would rock us to our core. Go ahead and play devil's advocate if you like, but this ignorant discourse is bad news and dangerous.

MDOC>> I'll give McCain some credit for his response to her, but obviously he didn't say enough, because she still thinks McCain was either lying to her, finessing her, or simply mistaken. And I also gotta say, his response could have used a lot more nuance in combatting prejudices against Arabs and Arab-Americans, as if being a "decent family man citizen" is an identity mutually exclusive from that ethnicity. It's not just the impression of Obama that needs to be corrected in this sector of McCain's support; much more importantly it's their racist attitudes that need correcting.

comment #21

frankbooth says ...

"Retired teacher Beverly Wood, 59, responded well. "I've seen him on TV, in the debates. But to see him in person . . . he's so engaging. I've never felt like this before. It's a very strong emotional connection, a spiritual connection."

They should have balanced it by searching the crowd until they found someone who said "I've never felt such evil...waves of malevolence were coming off him. He's the antichrist."

Look, some people are naturals. Elvis was, Clinton was, probably Reagan, too. Charisma is something that exists, though it can't be strictly defined, apart from its effect.

Obama has it. McCain doesn't. Not only is he not a natural, he has to actively try not to appear surly. Maybe he was damaged in some way by his POW experience, which could tend to turn a person inward and make him seem aloof and defensive. It's an unfair disadvantage, but that's the way it works in politics, and it's the reason I was happy to see Obama get the nomination over Hillary -- who is also not a natural.

Obama is The Beatles, and you're going to get statements like Beverly Wood's in his presence. People who don't get the whole Obama thing are like people who didn't get the whole Star Wars thing in '77.

comment #22

MDOC says ...

Frankbooth, I agree with you.

Jack price
"I'm miserable about this. It's grown to the point where intelligent and well-read McCain supporters are afraid to talk about why they approve of his fiscal policies over Obama's for fear of being judged as xenophobic just like the rest of the pitchfork-wielding mob. The communication has completely shut down. "

Well said, we share the same fears.

Last but not least, I can't resist posting this link. Only Stern has the cojones to go here, but it's a point worth making.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983

comment #23

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