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Zack and Miri makers Kevin Smith and Seth Rogen riffing on a MySpace video about the "fat guys don't get hot girls in real life" concept -- a rebuttal of sorts to my views along these lines. They don't mention HE by name, but I'm pretty sure they're talking about my reviews of Knocked Up and Zack and Miri. "Who writes that?" Rogen indignantly asks. "Skinny guys who can't get laid...that's who."
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on November 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM
comment #1
EricGilde
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Is Zack and Miri worth it? I'm really curious. I adore the first three Smith films (although Mallrats is a sort of noble failure. Is it weird that I associate it with A.I.?) But since then???
I'd love to see another intelligent, honest film from Smith. One with real emotion and dialectic underneath it all. And I think he has it in him, he's clearly a talented filmmaker. But, I don't know... Jay and Silent Bob and Clerks 2 seemed so... lazy. Let's bank off of what we've done. Let's unintelligently go to the lowest common denominator. I feel like he went from such an incredibly original voice to... verging on the point of irrelevancy. And it breaks my heart, but...
Is Zack and Miri worth it?
Posted by EricGilde
at November 4, 2008 7:26 PM
comment #2
MASON
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It looks like Kevin Smith ate half of Seth Rogen. Has Kev ever been this fat?
Posted by MASON
at November 4, 2008 7:51 PM
comment #3
Richard_Stone
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No, it's not. Not funny, not touching, characters acting nothing like real people in real life act like, yet not behaving in an interesting, heightened "Hollywood" reality. It's a step back from Clerks 2 for Smith, however mediocre that film was, and a forward step into the trash-bin for Rogen, the face of self-satisfied dumbass american mediocrity.
Posted by Richard_Stone
at November 4, 2008 7:59 PM
comment #4
CitizenKanedforChewingGum
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Jesus, that bad? Is it worse than Jersey Girl? I'm not even sure I want to know the answer...
Posted by CitizenKanedforChewingGum
at November 4, 2008 8:15 PM
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Craptastic
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Yes, of course they were talking about you. Who doesn't?
Posted by Craptastic
at November 4, 2008 8:29 PM
comment #6
huntermdaniels
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Terrible friggin movie. Boring, stupid and juvenile. Edgy only to those who have never felt a breast. And a weird (and naive) preoccupation with anal sex.
A third terrible movie for Rogen in a row. And with Fanboys coming up next...things aren't looking too good for him,
The worst movie Smith has ever made. And I didn't even hate Jersey Girl.
On the bright side, Justin Long was friggin awesome.
Posted by huntermdaniels
at November 4, 2008 8:37 PM
comment #7
jesse
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Just to add a dissenting opinion: this is Smith's best movie since Dogma. I don't have huge problems with Jay & Silent Bob or Clerks II -- there are aspects of both I like a lot -- and I was willing to go with Jersey Girl (that is, I didn't hate on it because it was a PG-13 family-friendly thing) but it just didn't get there for me. But Zack & Miri is funny, fairly sweet, with some excellent work from Banks in the first half (she gets a little shortchanged in the emotional stuff), and Rogen loosens up the Smith dialogue a little. It's a really fun movie, about on par with the recent Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist -- cute, a little formulaic, but funny and idiosyncratic enough to work.
Smith does have this problem where he thinks that because he's generally pretty funny, anything he adds that's sincere and heartfelt is therefore worthwhile, even if it's pitched at the same level as a sappy studio rom-com. The "emotional honesty" parts of this movie have nothing on Chasing Amy -- in fact, they're closer to Jersey Girl, unfortunately. But it's a good time. Rogen is well within his persona, but there's nothing about the quality of the film that should hurt his career.
Posted by jesse
at November 4, 2008 8:58 PM
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