Hold Up There
Last night Vice-President-elect Joe Biden told Larry King that he felt "somewhat badly" for President Bush, and that he feels that "the incident in Iraq was unfortunate, that guy throwing the shoes...it was just, it was just uncalled for ." But it was called for. It was absolutely called for and then some. This is why Muntadhar al-Zeidi's rude and intemperate act triggered such a huge reaction worldwide. Because of a consensus that there was enormous justification for what he did.
As I wrote on 12.15.08, al-Zeidi "has articulated a popular rage in the same way Peter Finch 's Howard Beale did in Network. Throwing those shoes was an act of civil disobedience no different than Boston patriots throwing tea into the harbor. Al-Zeidi did an impolite thing, but he didn't use a weapon or hurt anyone and said what an awful lot of people (myself included) feel."
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on December 23, 2008 at 8:08 AM
comment #1
Midwest Doug
says ...
And if Bush hadn't ducked, what would it have been? I think GWB is one of the worst presidents, ever. But you don't throw shoes at the president.
Posted by Midwest Doug
at December 23, 2008 8:38 AM
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Rich S.
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HE: Dateline January 21, 2009: "Hey, remember when that guy threw that shoe at the former president? That was something, wasn't it? Can we talk about that? Please?"
Posted by Rich S.
at December 23, 2008 8:38 AM
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jbf81
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I really dont consider myself anti American and try to keep on mind that this bad administration doesnt represent the entire country, BUT sometimes its sooo hard.
We are talking about thousands of orphans, dead husbands, several of widows left without hope, thousands of kids who died or were left very ill because Bush and his team thought it was a good idea to invade a country with NO reason at all, in fact based on a lie and wrong facts. So I feel no problem in someone throwing a shoe on him. In fact I pray for God that he burn in hell when he dies.
Posted by jbf81
at December 23, 2008 8:58 AM
comment #4
Josh Massey
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HE: Dateline September 12, 2001: "But it was called for. It was absolutely called for and then some. This is why Osama bin Laden's rude and intemperate act triggered such a huge reaction worldwide. Because of a consensus that there was enormous justification for what he did."
Posted by Josh Massey
at December 23, 2008 9:04 AM
comment #5
Josh Massey
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As long as we're basing our opinions on what the Middle East is celebrating...
(No, I'm not comparing a shoe-throwing to 9/11. Settle down.)
Posted by Josh Massey
at December 23, 2008 9:07 AM
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Midwest Doug
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Before the thread gets hijacked by the pro-shoe throwers... Take of your shoe. Yell, "George Bush, you are worse than my shoe!". Throw your shoe at the base of the podium. Do not whip your shoes, twice, at the president's head.
Heck, if anything, it reminded me of one of the few admirable qualities that Bush has -- good reflexes.
Posted by Midwest Doug
at December 23, 2008 9:14 AM
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Sabina E
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Thousands of people, Iraqis, Afghans, Americans and Britons, have died in this horrible, senseless war.
I suggest Biden reserves his sympathy for someone more worthy. Bush is a murderer, a liar, a crook, and he can go fucking burn in hell for all I care.
I am so proud of that Iraqi journalist for throwing shoes at Bush... that filthy dog!
Posted by Sabina E
at December 23, 2008 9:33 AM
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Howlingman
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Josh, you're just encouraging DZ to come crawling out of the woodwork, you know?
Posted by Howlingman
at December 23, 2008 9:48 AM
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Josh Massey
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Sorry. He's the primary reason for the clarifying second post.
Posted by Josh Massey
at December 23, 2008 10:59 AM
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Piper71
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With any luck, that will be Bush's legacy. Dodging a shoe like a dog that's taken a shit in the middle of a nice rug.
If Bush would have looked hurt or embarrassed, then I would have felt some sympathy for him. But did you see his face? He was smirking. That stupid shit-eating-grin he has.
Be gone Bush. He has lowered the bar for our Presidency. May we never have another like him.
Posted by Piper71
at December 23, 2008 11:53 AM
comment #11
Monument
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I'm no Bush fan, but the guy has some stones. Instead of cowering on the floor waiting for a Secret Service shield, he just ducks it and stands back up with a "fuck you" grin. I thought it was hilarious.
Posted by Monument
at December 23, 2008 12:15 PM
comment #12
p.Vice
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Make no mistake: Bush knows how evil he is, and he enjoys it.
Posted by p.Vice
at December 23, 2008 1:40 PM
comment #13
TVMCCA
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Of course Biden would say that the shoe-throwing was uncalled for: he helped make the Iraq War a reality.
Posted by TVMCCA
at December 23, 2008 2:06 PM
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smiley
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^^^^
Tool. You can't blame Biden for voting for the war when the false intelligence presented made every congress person believe it was a just cause.
As for throwing the shoe. Its not right, but with it being Bush I could understand.
Posted by smiley
at December 23, 2008 3:50 PM
comment #15
leape
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Mr. Wells,
You sound tired. Why don't you take a trip to Africa?
Posted by leape
at December 23, 2008 4:13 PM
comment #16
SaveFarris
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Likewise, You can't blame Bush for prosecuting the war when the false intelligence presented made every governmental official believe it was a just cause.
Right?
Posted by SaveFarris
at December 23, 2008 4:22 PM
comment #17
BurmaShave
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I'm of two minds on the issue, but I do have to wonder how apoplectic so many of you guys would be if it'd been Joe the Plumber throwing a shoe at Obama.
Posted by BurmaShave
at December 23, 2008 5:23 PM
comment #18
smiley
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Not when he and Cheney were the ones presenting the doctored data.
Posted by smiley
at December 23, 2008 5:23 PM
comment #19
NotImpressed1Yet
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Midwest Doug makes an interesting point. What if the shoes had hit? I suppose it depends on how hard the impact and so on and so forth, but watercooler conversation around the world would be completely different.
I guess I am happy the guy threw his shoes and I am also happy that Bushed ducked both of them. The way it worked out ended up being a perfect symbol of Iraqi frustration with the absolute devastation our president has brought to their country. If the shoes had hit their target, I don't know, it would have diluted the purity of the moment somehow.
Posted by NotImpressed1Yet
at December 23, 2008 6:47 PM
comment #20
SpinDozer
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'I do have to wonder how apoplectic so many of you guys would be if it'd been Joe the Plumber throwing a shoe at Obama.'
Good Comp. A guy who has lost countrymen, lost peers to the violence caused by Bush, a guy who was tortured by those taking advatage of the chaos of the Bush occupation, losing his cool during Bush's Victory lap, that'd be the same as a tax delinquent who thinks Social Security is the nanny state, a guy who claims to be harmed by lowering the highest tax bracket to six times his salary, showing his contempt for commonly held principals of both parties. You thought that one through.
Posted by SpinDozer
at December 23, 2008 9:12 PM
comment #21
theultimatebiu
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After Bushe's 11th Hour legislation...how anyone can defend him now is beyond me
Posted by theultimatebiu
at December 24, 2008 12:50 AM
comment #22
martindale
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Um, maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but you don't throw things at the president.
Posted by martindale
at December 26, 2008 1:47 PM
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