"I respectfully request a moratorium on Holocaust films," writes Stewart Klawans on the Jewish culture site, Nextbook. "By continually replaying and reframing and reinventing the past, these movies are starting to cloud the very history they claim to commemorate. Call it the law of diminishing returns -- or call it a paradox that mirrors the Torah's famously self-contradictory commandment at the end of Parshat Ki Tetze, concerning the people who were the prototype of Nazi Germany: 'Thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget.' Very soon, with Holocaust movies, we'll need to forget if we want to remember."
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on December 9, 2008 at 8:49 AM
comment #1
the sordid sentinel
says ...
I wish someone would do the same with all things Nixon.
Posted by the sordid sentinel
at December 9, 2008 9:11 AM
comment #2
Rich S.
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If they impose a moratorium on Holocaust films, won't they have to impose a resultant moratorium on the Oscars? It would be like the college football bowls not having enough winning teams to fill all the slots. The documentary division would all but shut down.
Posted by Rich S.
at December 9, 2008 9:23 AM
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Chase Kahn
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Add to the list:
-Inspirational sports dramas
-Eastwood movies
-black/white blue-screen gritty, growling graphic novel adaptations
-dysfunctional holiday family comedies
-urban dance movies
Posted by Chase Kahn
at December 9, 2008 9:23 AM
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NDH
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I agree with his point when it concerns films like The Reader, which asks the audience to sympathize with a Nazi concentration camp guard, but not when it comes to all Holocaust films. Like Defiance, for instance. While it may not be a stellar film, it is a story that many never knew about until this year, and so I'm glad it was made. It seems there are a number of other Holocaust incidents that have yet to be learned by wide audiences and, like it or not, movies are a very effective way of educating the masses (so long as they're not exaggerated films that completely rewrite history, a la Inglourious Basterds). So I'm all for the production of movies like Schindler's List and The Pianist. I grew up in Israel and you can be sure that films like these are shown in schools over there.
Posted by NDH
at December 9, 2008 9:23 AM
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DavidF
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Stupid typekey...I'm only typing this one more time.
I agree, broadly, that there are probably more Holocaust movies and books out there than we need.
That said, what is clear is that people continue to make GOOD Holocuast movies like The Pianist and the Counterfeiters.
Even I roll my eyes a bit, watiing to see which Best Documentary nominee is about the Holocaust but does that mean, for example, Polanski should have put aside his desire to make The Pianist?
A good story should be told, no matter what it's setting. Particularly in this case where there is something to be learned from it.
Posted by DavidF
at December 9, 2008 9:47 AM
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btwnproductions
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Enough with the history lessons. More superheroes, please. :)
Posted by btwnproductions
at December 9, 2008 9:53 AM
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p.Vice
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This comes about 15 years too late.
Posted by p.Vice
at December 9, 2008 10:15 AM
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actionman
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I'll second what Chase said -- no more urban dance movies. Ever. Please. Thanks.
Posted by actionman
at December 9, 2008 10:36 AM
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dukedog
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No more movies where chicks dance and/or sing Motown.
Posted by dukedog
at December 9, 2008 10:50 AM
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ZayTonday
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actionman: The Wayans Bros will make sure of that with Dance Flick.
Posted by ZayTonday
at December 9, 2008 11:09 AM
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ZayTonday
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dukedog: hey wait a minute.. Clerks 2 was awesome.
Posted by ZayTonday
at December 9, 2008 11:09 AM
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dangovich
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Anyone ever see Jerry Lewis' "The Day the Clown Cried?" I always wondered if it was as bad as it sounds.
Posted by dangovich
at December 9, 2008 11:13 AM
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actionman
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Nobody has ever seen it, dangovich.
ZayTonday: Dance Flick looks like new levels of awfulness. The Wayans' must be stopped.
Posted by actionman
at December 9, 2008 11:16 AM
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DarthCorleone
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Exactly what DavidF said.
A moratorium is an overreaction. It's fine to say that you think too many films of lesser, distortive quality have been churned out and thus want to make filmmakers think twice before throwing in their lot on this topic. However, a good film is a good film, and the dilution and distortion of history is going to happen with or without cinematic retellings.
Posted by DarthCorleone
at December 9, 2008 11:40 AM
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Chase Kahn
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The thing about 'Dance Movie' is its parodies appear to be spot-on (ex: white chick from Julliard going to a south-side, gangster school, etc.)
Unfortunately, it's bound to be as bad a movie as those its targeting. Someone needs to do a parody of the Wayans Bros. parodies....
Posted by Chase Kahn
at December 9, 2008 11:43 AM
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dukedog
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Hey ZayTonday: You are so right. Sorry. I should have said any chick flicks that have that scene. "Clerks 2" is a most excellent exception!
Posted by dukedog
at December 9, 2008 11:52 AM
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erniesouchak
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It's true, the Academy would be lost w/o Holocaust films.
Posted by erniesouchak
at December 9, 2008 11:55 AM
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dangovich
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actionman, Harry Shearer saw it, according to Spy Magazine:
"With most of these kinds of things, you find that the anticipation, or the concept, is better than the thing itself. But seeing this film was really awe-inspiring, in that you are rarely in the presence of a perfect object. This was a perfect object. This movie is so drastically wrong, its pathos and its comedy are so wildly misplaced, that you could not, in your fantasy of what it might be like, improve on what it really is. "Oh My God!" — that's all you can say."
Posted by dangovich
at December 9, 2008 12:20 PM
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actionman
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well...besides harry shearer...
Posted by actionman
at December 9, 2008 12:21 PM
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btwnproductions
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There was a thread about the Lewis film (and Lewis) on Dave Kehr's blog:
http://www.davekehr.com/?p=173#comments
And it's "Stuart" Klawans.
Posted by btwnproductions
at December 9, 2008 12:28 PM
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TVMCCA
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Re the Dave Kehr blog entry:
Love the Japanese poster for THE DISORDERLY ORDERLY.
Posted by TVMCCA
at December 9, 2008 1:15 PM
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Chicago48
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That Typepad sign-in is the WORST....back to the Jewish / Holocaust films....I agree, they don't have a monopoly on suffering and persecution....I wish the film industry would just stop and/or run out of stories to film.
They never make money do they?
Posted by Chicago48
at December 9, 2008 1:52 PM
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YRG
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Yes! No more Wayans brothers comedies.
As for Holocaust films, I don't have a problem with them-- they are a genre that resonates on many levels: an important part of Jewish history and experience, the last war America won, good vs evil with no shades of gray. In a way they are very similar to superhero films, they bring out the same emotions-- they are more powerful because we like to see the truth in them and say to ourselves-- this story really could have happened. I prefer Hong Kong gangster films.
Posted by YRG
at December 9, 2008 3:09 PM
comment #24
actionman
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Fucking A! Wall*E takes it in L.A. This is sweet.
http://www.variety.com/VR1117997085.html
Posted by actionman
at December 9, 2008 3:42 PM
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lipranzer
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While I agree with the sentiment, I've seen some of the comments on similar articles, and damn, there are a lot of Holocaust deniers out there, or else they have a good publicity machine. You could argue, I guess, the prevalence of such films, and the weariness greeting them, ironically makes a denier's job easier, but my reaction to seeing these comments was, as my co-worker at work put it, "Bring the films on."
Posted by lipranzer
at December 9, 2008 6:15 PM
comment #26
xiaoguo
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Enough with the history lessons. More superheroes, please. :)
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