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MikeSchaeferSF says ...

Howard is 54; the first time he could've voted was in '72. But hey, we all do stupid things when we're young.

comment #2

SpinDozer says ...

There were a hell of a lot of people doing stupid things in the voting booth in '72.

comment #3

T. S. Idiot says ...

Wallace has always looked one smirk from going ballistic.

comment #4

BurmaShave says ...

Wallace is right only in the sense that it is absurd to compare them. They are each terrible in their own way. Bush is by far the lesser President, however.

comment #5

Deathtongue_Groupie says ...

Jeff still doesn't grasp the fact that MOST young people vote EXACTLY as their parents.

And he still lives in that media bubble that refuses to acknowledge that the liberal, protest 60's was largely a product of that same media. That when that generation took over media, they simply kept repeating the myths.

As of 2 years ago, the number of students from the general population going to high education was only 35%. Just imagine how low that number was 40 years ago...

comment #6

lazarus says ...

I'm no Nixon fan, but Isn't what Bush did worse? Okay, Tricky Dick tried to further his presidency through illegal means. He also took 49 states in the election and would have won regardless of his campaign activities. Alright, he had a crazy enemies list, too.

But look at what Bush has done worldwide--an unnecessary war that has claimed countless lives on both sides (let's not forget Nixon got OUT of Vietnam before he left office, and managed to keep the image of the U.S. relatively intact with his diplomacy skills), damage to the environment, and while Nixon may have been wiretapping certain people he was obsessed with, Bush has been shitting over the constitution in a much more far-reaching way.

comment #7

lonniechung says ...

Nixon and Bush are failure presidents who divided the country and then brought it back together in a mutual feeling of disapproval. Fuck-ups are fuck-ups and the details are irrelevant.

comment #8

Thrudvangar says ...

While we're on the subject of "never again," is anything going to be done about Darfur?

I haven't heard anybody in gov'ment mention it lately.

Maybe the genocide is over.

comment #9

JD says ...

"But of course, Bush didn't invade Iraq to protect his country. He did it, I believe, partly to give the country an emotional revenge outlet over 9/11, partly to rectify (in '43's mind) his father's mistake in deciding against invading Baghdad during the '91 Gulf War, and partly to nail Saddam Hussein, in part because he'd threatened Bush '41's life."

And let's not forget, he did it to funnel trillions of future tax payer dollars to Haliburton, Blackwater, etc. That's the real reason Iraq was invaded, whether W. knows it or not. If you ask me, GWB is much worse than Nixon for precisely the reason that Wallace says he's not: Bush's crimes were on a global scale, whereas Nixon's (most famous ones) were more local.

comment #10

polarbear2 says ...

How exactly is Wallace "defending" Nixon? He's defending Bush against comparisons to Nixon.

As for who was worse: well Bush hasn't been charged with any illegal activity yet. Sure there was the war, but lots of Presidents have involved us in wars. Even Obama will send the troops into Sudan once he pulls them out of Iraq.

Nixon's biggest problem was that he couldn't use the 'for the good of the country' excuse to credibly explain Watergate.

comment #11

TVMCCA says ...

Probably the most telling sentence from the GAWKER piece: How the hell does Mike Wallace even talk to his miserable son?

comment #12

K. Bowen says ...

What are this board and liberals in general going to think over the next few years as they watch their hero Obama transform into George W. Bush? I mean, if you think he's going to close Guantanamo after the events in India, I think you're dreaming. He might clsoe the facility, but he's hardly going to set them free and let them run around Kansas City .

comment #13

D.Z. says ...

You're right, Chris. Bush isn't smart enough to violate constitutional and international law for his own benefit, or he'd have won with a mandate in '04. He was serving PNAC's interests and not his own.

"Howard voted against George McGovern? Good God."

I told, you, Jeff. Baby boomers + acid=don't mix.

lazarus: "let's not forget Nixon got OUT of Vietnam before he left office,"

I thought that was Ford.

"and managed to keep the image of the U.S. relatively intact with his diplomacy skills"

Yeah, he really managed to sock it to OPEC with his non-alternative fuel energy policy. Oh, wait!

Bowen: "I mean, if you think he's going to close Guantanamo after the events in India, I think you're dreaming. He might clsoe the facility, but he's hardly going to set them free and let them run around Kansas City ."

As long as he lets them go back to their native countries, if proven innocent, I don't care.

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