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Hal Ashby's Bound for Glory screened at the Aero last night as part of a "Kevin Thomas' favorite movies" series, and an HE correspondent reports that the panel discussion that followed -- a confrontational psychodrama between a bizarrely behaved David Caradine, the somewhat more moderate Ronny Cox and dp Haskell Wexler, and an all-but-invisible Thomas -- turned into a "near-riot."

Bound for Glory star David Carradine, moderator Kevin Thomas, dp Haskell Wexler, costar Ronny Cox.

"Carradine, very probably high on something, made some anti-union statements and got into a shouting match with someone in the audience," he says. "Cox at that point walked out, and that's before things even got good. Carradine threw a mike toward the audience so a lady questioner could speak, and the mike accidentally hit American Cinematheque publicist Margot Gerber on the head.

"Then Carradine started insulting Wexler's cinematography, at length. 'You got an Oscar for ruining my movie,' Carradine kept telling him. Wexler finally got into it, agreeing that, yes, Hal Ashby had fired him one day, and that he'd responded about the massive amounts of coke being snorted on the set, which got him unfired. Then Carradine denied doing coke with Ashby but defended directors who like their powder -- including Quentin Tarantino! [WIth whom Carradine worked on Kill Bill.]

"After some more back-and-forth shouting Carradine broke into a singalong of the title song, with the audience's nerves too frayed for much of anyone to join in.

Here's an mp3 containing part of the discussion. If you listen closely you'll hear Carradine referring to Tarantino as a "coke freak."

"It was a little like a real-life Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf," the observer says. "It never dawned on me that I could be recording this on my iPhone till nearly the end, but I did get some of it. Someone was taping it for the Cinematheque, and I'd pay a hundred bucks for that video, but I bet it's already been locked away in a vault somewhere.

"The best part was good old Kevin, who got in about 10 words during the entire 70 minutes, and who never did a thing to try to stop any of it, which any sane or halfway effectual person would have.

"As somebody said afterward, it was 'a perfect storm', combining combative panelists (and some partially combative audience members) with history's most passive moderator. The only staffers there seemed to be about 20 years old and unsure whether to try and stop it themselves or not. It was unnerving and thrilling."

An American Cinematheque rep tells me it was all taped (video and audio) so that's something to look forward to.

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on March 19, 2009 at 11:42 AM

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ZayTonday says ...

How on earth can anyone think that Haskell Wexler is a bad DP, let alone a mediocre one?

I would love to see video of this.

Posted by ZayTonday at March 19, 2009 12:32 PM

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DeafBrownTrashPunk says ...

wow, crazy. Carradine must have been drunk... or maybe he's getting senile.

Posted by DeafBrownTrashPunk at March 19, 2009 12:58 PM

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JD says ...

For an exceedingly left-leaning filmmaker, Hal Ashby strangely made some of his most memorbale films with actors who became right-leaners later in life (ie. Jon Voight, David Carradine). I guess this is a pretty common phenomenon...

In any case, it's worth noting that a) Haskell Wexler is notoriously hard to get along with and has been fired many times (see his son's terrific doc, Tell Them Who You Are, for more on this) and b) he went on to shoot 3 more Ashby films... so I think Ashby ultimately respected his contribution a great deal more than Carradine realizes.

Posted by JD at March 19, 2009 1:00 PM

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George Prager says ...

'You got an Oscar for ruining my movie'
(?)
Carradine only got the part because Tim Buckley died.
I guess, iIf I made 30 movies since `Kill Bill', I would be drinking too.

Posted by George Prager at March 19, 2009 1:06 PM

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corey3rd says ...

Between tales of all the ecstasy and cocaine on the set of Kill Bill, it's a miracle they remembered to take the lens off the camera.

Posted by corey3rd at March 19, 2009 1:40 PM

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cp says ...

I'm not one for posting comments but I have to share this anecdote about Mr. Kung Fu Carradine as it may shed some light on the behavior described in this post.

Not long ago, a friend who sublet my Villa Carlotta apartment on Franklin Ave in Hollywood was parked on the street arguing with his girlfriend when a green Jaguar smashed into him. Seizing on the moment to look cool in front of his girl, friendo sprinted in front of the Jag, waving and hissisng like a madman. After blurting some profanity and threats, the driver pulled over and got out: Behold Mr. Carradine, drunk as Lindsay Lohan, suddenly very apologetic.

When Mr. Carradine finished atoning, mi amigo offered to drive him wherever he needed to go. Mr. Carradine, shitfaced, grudgingly accepted, then, in a moment of clarity, became very thankful and uncomfortably vulnerable.

They boarded my friend's Bronco and pulled up to the intersection of Franklin and Tamarind. My friend asked Mr. Carradine where to go, he motioned straight ahead. Just after crossing the intersection, Mr. Carradine instructed my pal to pull over -- they had arrived at his destination: The Scientology Celebrity Center, which I might remind you, is just across the street from the accident scene.

Mr. Carradine is a drunk Scientologist. I hope this helps everone sleep better at night.

Posted by cp at March 19, 2009 2:04 PM

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Jason says ...

Beauty of a payoff, CP.

Posted by Jason at March 19, 2009 2:28 PM

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TVMCCA says ...

One of the most painful 10 minute videos on YouTube involves Carradine being interviewed by some good-old-boy radio DJs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDJc70v4IEs

And, of course, the video is more about the on-air "talent" than Carradine--who seems to be on relatively good behavior when compared to the Aero Theatre incident..

Posted by TVMCCA at March 19, 2009 2:45 PM

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For Kurosawa fans, the Aero starts a 4 day run of his tonight starting with High and Low, then Kagemusha Friday, Seven Samurai Saturday and wrapping up with Ikiru on Sunday.

You couldn't do much better than this to get an overall impression of a true world cinema master. Each one can lead to others of a similar vein (follow High/Low with The Bad Sleep Well or Kagemusha with Ran)

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D.Z. says ...

"Carradine, very probably high on something, made some anti-union statements and got into a shouting match with someone in the audience"

Well, he's used to outsourcing since his work on Kung Fu; so I'm not surprised.

"Then Carradine denied doing coke with Ashby but defended directors who like their powder -- including Quentin Tarantino! [WIth whom Carradine worked on Kill Bill.]"

That's not coke he's snorting. It's burned and uncut prints of Asian films with accurate subs.

Posted by D.Z. at March 19, 2009 3:06 PM

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cp-

that was Lynch-ianly awesome.

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JT says ...

QT a coke freak? Who'da thunk it?

Posted by JT at March 19, 2009 3:23 PM

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Deathtongue_Groupie says ...

I keep swearing to my wife that one night, at a screening for some big new film, I'm going to do a duck call just before the start of the film of "Quentin Tarantino is a celluloid God" just to see if D.Z. stands up.

Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie at March 19, 2009 6:02 PM

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rr3333 says ...

Wasn't Carradine the lead in 'Revenge of the Nerds'?

No??!?!?

I always get my Carradines mixed up.

Posted by rr3333 at March 19, 2009 8:44 PM

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