Lurie vs. Finke

In a Wrap column posted last night, director Rod Lurie (Nothing But The Truth) has ripped into Deadline Hollywood Daily's Nikki Finke as a "de facto McCarthy," "destructive and dangerous, "carelessly lobbing accusations and innuendoes against unsuspecting victims," "wing[ing] around rumors as if they were fact" even as she "protects her integrity by acknowledging up front that this is something she's heard" and "very often [reporting stories with] agendas or scores to settle."

Lurie initially ascribes the afore-mentioned characteristics and tendencies to a new gang of reporter-bloggers who "purport to run news items -- 'scoops,' as they call them -- in a shoot-first-and-do-the-interview-later kind of way...with in most cases no editors or lawyers to vet a story -- either as a fact-checking measure or to determine whether there is exposure to a libel lawsuit."

But his real focus is Finke due to her having reported two untrue things about him -- one, that he's hopscotched reps (i.e., has been skittish, temperamental and disloyal with his agents) and two, that he wanted to include a "rough sex" scene between a U.S. President's daughter and a Secret Service agent in Commander in Chief, the TV series he created. So let's cut out the qualifications -- this is a Lurie vs. Finke piece. And Lurie is saying Finke "is emblematic of a true danger that now exists in journalism -- the unchecked reporter."

Lurie's most provocative statement is that "there will soon be a revolution in legal Internet journalism. It simply cannot stand that reporters can just willy-nilly report rumors as fact. When that happens, reputations and careers can be destroyed at the whim of the reporter. Something has to and will happen or the entire institution of journalism -- which will soon become almost exclusively Internet journalism -- will be dead and buried."

A journalist friend asked me the other night why I hadn't jumped into the recent Finke-Variety-Wrap brouhaha more strongly. I guess it's because Hollywood Elsewhere is a personality-opinion-attitude column, and so in terms of this one distinctive bent or tendency -- a constant vetting of personal likes and dislikes, faves and devils -- HE is similar to Deadline Hollywood Daily.

Unlike Finke, of course, I rarely beat the bushes for news story exclusives. I generate reviews, elitist or curmudgeonly snark, festival coverage, seasoned perspective, tough opinion, cultural complaints, standard movie-love (in feature, DVD and Bluray form), superb photographs, video and mp3 recordings, and all kinds of bizarre head-trip humor riffs -- including reactions to hotel managers who fail to discern the meaning of a left-behind cowboy hat and pink-shirt restaurant managers who lack the grace to allow a customer to eat a slice of his own cake that he brought along in a bag.

But when exclusives do fall into my lap (a) I always make sure the facts are as throughly sourced as possible (and if I make a mistake, I fix it as soon as possible) or at least state that what's being posted is merely the perspective of a known and trusted source, and (b) I always run said stories without naming the source. If I run someone else's view of a situation or a film or Bluray disc, it's because I agree with it or feel it at least has some merit. I think I've shown pretty good judgment on these matters as well as aesthetic-cultural issues. In any case, them's the rules.

One definition of a Nikki Finke target is any form of old-boy sexism -- any evident regarding of women as objects first and fully proportional and spherical human beings second. A good thing to be against, but Finke's zeal in this regard can be nothing short of ferocious.

She tried to hurt me a couple of years ago by posting a single stupid-icky paragraph I included in a 15-paragraph letter that I'd privately sent to 3:10 to Yuma director James Mangold , which had been given to her by an ally of Lionsgate marketing chief Tim Palen. Why? Because first and foremost, I believe, there's something toxic in her soul that prevents her from acting in a more considerate, comme ci comme ca fashion (what she did was appallingly un-mensch-like), but secondly because she considered me a sexist dog and therefore needed to be slapped down.

I suspect that her animus toward Lurie was fostered along the same vague lines -- i.e., that because of Lurie's fictional interest in including a "rough sex" plot point in a TV series he must be a sexist and therefore needed to be slapped around.

Finke hasn't posted anything about Lurie's piece on DHD so far, and probably won't.

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on April 1, 2009 at 7:32 AM

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dogcatcher Author Profile Page says ...

Nikki Finke is taking some hits lately isn't she? I can't say it isn't well deserved.

I agree with Lurie, her kind of "journalism" is destined to come crashing down. It's tragic is the most basic sense of the word, where one can see the catastrophe play out before it actually does.

An arrow soars and then the arrow falls.

Posted by dogcatcher Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 10:01 AM

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raygo Author Profile Page says ...

I don't know anything about her, but she sounds like a "magnificent c#nt".

Posted by raygo Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 10:17 AM

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NotImpressed1Yet Author Profile Page says ...

"I generate...superb photographs"

No false modesty there! But you're right, they are superb.

Posted by NotImpressed1Yet Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 10:26 AM

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moviemaniac2002 Author Profile Page says ...

No doubt that Finke loves her position as the
Howard Cosell of entertainment journalism....
....and yes, it's my guiltiest of pleasures seeing
her sling insults, sarcasm, unsupported innuendo
and overall snarky commentary at Mt.Olympian
execs.....and my enjoyment may come from the
fact that most of today's film and TV entertaiment
has become nothing but Corporate Spam-In-A-Can, soul-less , machine tooled trash designed to
placate us prols and empty our almost-empty wallets. So maybe Sumner Redstone, the idiots who run Fox and all the rest of 'em are getting the
journalism they deserve....they pretty much hold
humanity in contempt....why not have them tracked by someone who feels the same way about them?
But at this point, it's hard for me to believe that anyone, inside the Industry or out, takes
Finke seriously....reading her is akin to watching the WWE....you can cheer the smackdowns without actually believing they're real.

Posted by moviemaniac2002 Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 10:34 AM

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Markj74 Author Profile Page says ...

raygo: To quote Withnail and I, Finke sounds more like a "terrible c#nt".

Posted by Markj74 Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 11:14 AM

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Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page says ...

Are there any native French speakers who can explain to Jeff that he keeps using the phrase "comme ci comme ca" in a nonsensical manner? As far as my limited understanding, it simply means "so-so." Not sure what Jeff thinks it means.

Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 11:52 AM

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Jeffrey Wells Author Profile Page says ...

Language is a fluid moving-train thing and a 24/7 shape-shifter so here's what comme ci Comme ca means, okay? It means whatever, baby. Webecool. Hang loose. No sweat. Be here now. We be in the groove. Everything's everything, baby. It means he ain't heavy, he's my brother. It means jazz, coolness, cosmic acceptance. Get down, get down.

Posted by Jeffrey Wells Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 12:20 PM

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storymark Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, so can we pick some words and decide what they mean now, too? Fun times.

Posted by storymark Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 1:38 PM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that somebody obsesses over other people's mispronunciations but makes up his own definitions?

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 2:37 PM

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Carter L. Author Profile Page says ...

Lurie can be accused of many things, but sexist is not one of them.

And, jeff, you are nothing like Finke. I do not recall you ever having made errors of fact in your stories, And when you have an agenda it is always at a film and never to hurt an individal.

Lurie is right. Of course.

When Finke comes after him again we will now why.

Posted by Carter L. Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 2:48 PM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

"And when you have an agenda it is always at a film and never to hurt an individal."

You're not counting openly actively campaigning against Amy Ryan and Eddie Murphy for Oscars as targetting an individual as opposed to a film?

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 3:18 PM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

(I should add to that -- those are still a far cry from Finke, absolutely.)

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 3:19 PM

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Carter L. Author Profile Page says ...

Gordon27 - Good point. But at least Jeff does not grossly make up facts... and the Oscars are kind of different... its about winning a game almost.

Posted by Carter L. Author Profile Page at April 1, 2009 3:43 PM

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