And so Apatow moves in the James L. Brooks portion of his career. I don't know if he can do poignant, and why he would even want to is beyond me (because every clown wants to be taken seriously), but I am betting that he doesn't pull it off. Take away the cock jokes and other vulgarities and I don't know what is really left except for unearned sentimentality. I guess I have to see this movie in order to back up my ideas, but the point is that I really don't want to.
Why, KC? Jonah Hill is cool. And he wants you to know that he's cool. Because liking the Pixies is cool, right? Would have been much cooler had he been wearing his Pussy Galore tee-shirt, but then again, Jonah Hill doesn't have a Pussy Galore tee-shirt, because they don't sell those at Fred Segal, and even if they did, I doubt they would carry it in a size Extra Slobby.
Yeah, I guess he should have stayed in line and asked wardrobe for a plain t-shirt. Because real people don't wear their favorite band's t-shirts. Especially people under thirty. Just doesn't happen. He must have been wearing it to show how cool he is. I know whenever I get dressed in the morning, I take into consideration what might let people know how cool I am. As a matter of fact, the only reason I listen to music is to let people know how cool I am. The Pixies are cool, right? Then I like The Pixies.
Oh, and Jonah Hill's fat. Have you read this, have you heard about this?
TT there are a lot of things that people do in real life that are lol when presented in a movie. Rogen's Public Enemy shirt in The 40-Year-Old Virgin works well for me but this crosses an intangible line I'm sorry.
I just don't get the beef. Why is a Pixies shirt out-of-bounds, but a PE shirt is fine? Is it because The Pixies have a douchebag hipster-sanctioned cult following and it's become kind of a cliche to actually enjoy their music?
MilkMan, I agree that some people wear band t-shirts to prove how hip they are, but I'd say the majority of people just want to profess their love for a band, and maybe get other people to enjoy what they hold so dear.
Growing up in the MIdwest, I can't tell you how many people's favorite bands I introduced them to just by wearing a t-shirt. It comes up naturally in conversation, and you have an opportunity to rave about an artist you love. Then a couple weeks later, it's "I bought that record by so-and-so and I just love it!"
I don't feel cool at all for introducing great music to people, it's just nice for people to be able to enjoy what I love so much. Maybe Hill or whoever thought that people would see the movie and go home and google The Pixies. Or maybe it's just an homage to a band he truly loves.
yeah what the fuck MilkMan, i love buying the band's t-shirt after a great show, you know, supporting great musicians who don't have american idol or radio disney to prop up their careers.
Okay. So I am wrong on this one. Duly noted. Band tee-shirts are cool. Busting on people who wear them is not. All hail the Pixies. Frank Black is a genius. Jonah Hill has great taste.
I thought the PE shirt was a touch that helped establish Rogen's character as That One Dude, but it's four years later now and That One Dude has populated almost every studio comedy made during that time, at this point the post-collegiate slightly-indie jokey white dude who can identify a grip of porn stars by name needs no introduction and the Pixies t-shirt is basically a sartorial Garden State soundtrack.
Jesus Christ, this is ridiculous. It's a fucking t-shirt in a fucking movie. Who cares? 40-Year-Old Virgin closed with Age Of Aquarius, so I guess Apatow wanted to show how cool he is for liking Hair. For fuck's sake. I feel embarrassed for even trying to approach this "issue" reasonably. Fuck this. I'm done. You can go on bitching about t-shirts in fucking movies. Have fun.
Public Enemy FUCKING COMMANDS. The Pixies are hipster rock. Nothing really against the Pixies themselves, but as a Gen Xer, let me tell you that in 1991 Middle America, every kid I knew was bumping PE and the APOCALYPSE 91 album with Shut Em Down and Lost at Birth and Bring Tha Noise... PE was inescapable, and they weren't even the most popular rap act in the game.
Maybe I just grew up in B-Boy, USA, but all "the kids" were either into RAP or METAL. I didn't know a SINGLE PERSON who would've even known what The Pixies were in their heyday. All that college jangly indie rock stuff just sailed right over a lot of places, at least until grunge, which was closer to metal/rock, and thus would get played on the rock stations.
Maybe it's just cuz I didn't live on college campus, but all these hipster-douchebag scruffy white dude half-ass-rock bands draw a pop cultural-nostalgia blank for me, unless they were really big like REM or U2 (neither of whom I particularly was into.) Pixies, Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo, Supergrass/chunk/whatever: WHO THE FUCK listened to that shit? Where did you guys even hear it?
Maybe it's just because I AM BAD ASS AS FUCK, but I was listening to PANTERA and NWA and THIRD BASS, rocking a shaved-sides mullet and workout pants, smoking Newports with a baseball hat resting crooked atop my head back in the day. All Cross Coloured out.
In short, no one I knew WHO ACTUALLY GREW UP IN THE ERA would've known who The Pixies were.
Lex, I'm a bit younger than you, but almost everyone I know got into the Pixies in high school because of FIGHT CLUB. Some Nirvana fans who heard about their influence. When I saw them on tour 4 years ago the audience was comprised almost entirely of people my age, hipsters as you might call them.
I think I have puked several treatises on the topic of how Seth Rogen is pretty bangable onto this very website so you know that could be a crucial factor on the decisionmaking rubric here. I dunno, take it up with MilkMan, yall
"All that college jangly indie rock stuff just sailed right over a lot of places, at least until grunge, which was closer to metal"
So many things wrong with this statement. If you know anything about music history, 90s grunge was the final nail in the coffin for the popularity of 80s metal. Sure, there were some very limited metal influences (normally going back to metal-punk like The Stooges or The Misfits), but grunge was largely inspired by the college indie rock and a lot of those groups you listed. Maybe NOBODY listened to THE PIXIES, but everyone listened to NIRVANA, so after awhile, everyone who listened to NIRVANA started listening to THE PIXIES.
Anyway, not many people were listening to metal in the 90s except the true metalheads -- I was one of them. At the Gates, Cannibal Corpse, Machine Head, Pantera, Soundgarden (which was the 90s metal answer to Sabbath, and entirely not grunge...I don't care if they were from Seattle).
I might show up since I hear the film ends when Eric Bana shotgun blasts Sandler, Rogen and Jonah Hill in a Straw Dogs tribute
Far as the Pixies go - I was in the orchestra pit on their final tour. My band opened up for Pussy Galore. Maybe Jonah Hill bought that t-shirt since they were out of Mr Mister and Glass Tiger t-shirts.
At the end of the day, what's really important is what kind of thread count that Pixies t-shirt is...I bought one at Coachella (how's that for hipster) five years ago. It's held up okay, but clearly they were going for affordability over quality.
Where would you even hear the Pixies? You'd go over to someone's apartment to hang out and drink and get ready to go out and they'd be listening to the Pixies. Maybe on vinyl, maybe on cassette. That's how you heard music then. Or you discovered it yourself in the middle of the night on a community or college radio station.
Your friends sucked, Lex. You were hanging out with Wayne and Garth.
Anyway, wearing a Pixies shirt is only hip if you were wearing it when Doolittle was new, say '89 or '90. How old was Jonah Hill then? Exactly. Ergo, he cannot be hip and should quit trying and run off to play with his Transformers toys.
I like the fact that Adam Sandler beats cancer and then he decides to break up a man's family. Nothing says comedy more than when my wife's ex-boyfriend shows up at the door attempting to get me divorced and steal my children. Adam Sandler's happiness is worth more than any family bond.
That's why I like this Straw Dogs ending with Eric Bana blasting Sandler right in the face while Styx's Mr. Roboto is playing in the background. The sneak preview audience here got wild when Sandler's brains covered the bed's headboard. It was like the flip side of him and the kid peeing on the doors in Big Daddy.
Maybe Jonah Hill should be wearing a "Winger" t-shirt so he can be as cool as Stuart.
RIght now I'm wearing my Linda Ronstadt t-shirt, "Canciones de Mi Padre: A Romantic Evening in Old Mexico" ... how cool is that? My first concert was John Denver at the Spectrum in Philadelphia. I sat behind some nuns.
comment #1
MilkMan
says ...
And so Apatow moves in the James L. Brooks portion of his career. I don't know if he can do poignant, and why he would even want to is beyond me (because every clown wants to be taken seriously), but I am betting that he doesn't pull it off. Take away the cock jokes and other vulgarities and I don't know what is really left except for unearned sentimentality. I guess I have to see this movie in order to back up my ideas, but the point is that I really don't want to.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 12:12 PM
comment #2
KC
says ...
Someone should have put a foot down on Jonah Hill getting to wear his Pixies shirt
Posted by KC
at April 24, 2009 12:27 PM
comment #3
MilkMan
says ...
Why, KC? Jonah Hill is cool. And he wants you to know that he's cool. Because liking the Pixies is cool, right? Would have been much cooler had he been wearing his Pussy Galore tee-shirt, but then again, Jonah Hill doesn't have a Pussy Galore tee-shirt, because they don't sell those at Fred Segal, and even if they did, I doubt they would carry it in a size Extra Slobby.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 12:40 PM
comment #4
televisiontears
says ...
Yeah, I guess he should have stayed in line and asked wardrobe for a plain t-shirt. Because real people don't wear their favorite band's t-shirts. Especially people under thirty. Just doesn't happen. He must have been wearing it to show how cool he is. I know whenever I get dressed in the morning, I take into consideration what might let people know how cool I am. As a matter of fact, the only reason I listen to music is to let people know how cool I am. The Pixies are cool, right? Then I like The Pixies.
Oh, and Jonah Hill's fat. Have you read this, have you heard about this?
Posted by televisiontears
at April 24, 2009 1:00 PM
comment #5
MilkMan
says ...
Jonah Hill couldn't get through half of Doolittle before he would need to take a snack break and put on some audioslave.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 1:09 PM
comment #6
MilkMan
says ...
If you have to advertise how fucking cool you are via a tee-shirt that lets me know what's on your iPod then you deserve to be made fun of.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 1:14 PM
comment #7
KC
says ...
TT there are a lot of things that people do in real life that are lol when presented in a movie. Rogen's Public Enemy shirt in The 40-Year-Old Virgin works well for me but this crosses an intangible line I'm sorry.
Posted by KC
at April 24, 2009 1:15 PM
comment #8
MilkMan
says ...
Not to mention that his tee-shirt probably cost more than Kim Deal made in all of 1991.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 1:16 PM
comment #9
rr3333
says ...
Awaiting Jeff's comments on how good Seth Rogen looks because he isn't fat anymore and how he can now woo the ladies.
Jeff : Take it away.
Posted by rr3333
at April 24, 2009 1:29 PM
comment #10
DavidF
says ...
I know you're gay because you're making fun of Jonah Hill's t-shirt IN A TRAILER.
Posted by DavidF
at April 24, 2009 1:32 PM
comment #11
televisiontears
says ...
I just don't get the beef. Why is a Pixies shirt out-of-bounds, but a PE shirt is fine? Is it because The Pixies have a douchebag hipster-sanctioned cult following and it's become kind of a cliche to actually enjoy their music?
MilkMan, I agree that some people wear band t-shirts to prove how hip they are, but I'd say the majority of people just want to profess their love for a band, and maybe get other people to enjoy what they hold so dear.
Growing up in the MIdwest, I can't tell you how many people's favorite bands I introduced them to just by wearing a t-shirt. It comes up naturally in conversation, and you have an opportunity to rave about an artist you love. Then a couple weeks later, it's "I bought that record by so-and-so and I just love it!"
I don't feel cool at all for introducing great music to people, it's just nice for people to be able to enjoy what I love so much. Maybe Hill or whoever thought that people would see the movie and go home and google The Pixies. Or maybe it's just an homage to a band he truly loves.
Posted by televisiontears
at April 24, 2009 1:34 PM
comment #12
Ryansi51
says ...
yeah what the fuck MilkMan, i love buying the band's t-shirt after a great show, you know, supporting great musicians who don't have american idol or radio disney to prop up their careers.
Posted by Ryansi51
at April 24, 2009 1:56 PM
comment #13
MilkMan
says ...
Okay. So I am wrong on this one. Duly noted. Band tee-shirts are cool. Busting on people who wear them is not. All hail the Pixies. Frank Black is a genius. Jonah Hill has great taste.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 2:34 PM
comment #14
KC
says ...
I thought the PE shirt was a touch that helped establish Rogen's character as That One Dude, but it's four years later now and That One Dude has populated almost every studio comedy made during that time, at this point the post-collegiate slightly-indie jokey white dude who can identify a grip of porn stars by name needs no introduction and the Pixies t-shirt is basically a sartorial Garden State soundtrack.
Posted by KC
at April 24, 2009 2:38 PM
comment #15
televisiontears
says ...
Jesus Christ, this is ridiculous. It's a fucking t-shirt in a fucking movie. Who cares? 40-Year-Old Virgin closed with Age Of Aquarius, so I guess Apatow wanted to show how cool he is for liking Hair. For fuck's sake. I feel embarrassed for even trying to approach this "issue" reasonably. Fuck this. I'm done. You can go on bitching about t-shirts in fucking movies. Have fun.
Posted by televisiontears
at April 24, 2009 3:04 PM
comment #16
LexG
says ...
Public Enemy FUCKING COMMANDS. The Pixies are hipster rock. Nothing really against the Pixies themselves, but as a Gen Xer, let me tell you that in 1991 Middle America, every kid I knew was bumping PE and the APOCALYPSE 91 album with Shut Em Down and Lost at Birth and Bring Tha Noise... PE was inescapable, and they weren't even the most popular rap act in the game.
Maybe I just grew up in B-Boy, USA, but all "the kids" were either into RAP or METAL. I didn't know a SINGLE PERSON who would've even known what The Pixies were in their heyday. All that college jangly indie rock stuff just sailed right over a lot of places, at least until grunge, which was closer to metal/rock, and thus would get played on the rock stations.
Maybe it's just cuz I didn't live on college campus, but all these hipster-douchebag scruffy white dude half-ass-rock bands draw a pop cultural-nostalgia blank for me, unless they were really big like REM or U2 (neither of whom I particularly was into.) Pixies, Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo, Supergrass/chunk/whatever: WHO THE FUCK listened to that shit? Where did you guys even hear it?
Maybe it's just because I AM BAD ASS AS FUCK, but I was listening to PANTERA and NWA and THIRD BASS, rocking a shaved-sides mullet and workout pants, smoking Newports with a baseball hat resting crooked atop my head back in the day. All Cross Coloured out.
In short, no one I knew WHO ACTUALLY GREW UP IN THE ERA would've known who The Pixies were.
Posted by LexG
at April 24, 2009 3:11 PM
comment #17
BurmaShave
says ...
Lex, I'm a bit younger than you, but almost everyone I know got into the Pixies in high school because of FIGHT CLUB. Some Nirvana fans who heard about their influence. When I saw them on tour 4 years ago the audience was comprised almost entirely of people my age, hipsters as you might call them.
Dimebag Darrell RIP.
Posted by BurmaShave
at April 24, 2009 3:28 PM
comment #18
KC
says ...
I think I have puked several treatises on the topic of how Seth Rogen is pretty bangable onto this very website so you know that could be a crucial factor on the decisionmaking rubric here. I dunno, take it up with MilkMan, yall
Posted by KC
at April 24, 2009 4:19 PM
comment #19
Arran
says ...
What, no mention of Paul Rudd's Tom Waits shirt in Knocked Up?
Posted by Arran
at April 24, 2009 5:01 PM
comment #20
azmoviegoer
says ...
Damn that trailer for Funny People is just loaded with house porn!
I despise people who get to live like that in real life.
And would join them in a second if given the chance.
Posted by azmoviegoer
at April 24, 2009 5:05 PM
comment #21
Phatang!
says ...
What, no mention of how breathtakingly crappy that movie is going to be?
He'll win an Oscar for it, of course.
Posted by Phatang!
at April 24, 2009 5:08 PM
comment #22
CitizenKanedforChewingGum
says ...
"All that college jangly indie rock stuff just sailed right over a lot of places, at least until grunge, which was closer to metal"
So many things wrong with this statement. If you know anything about music history, 90s grunge was the final nail in the coffin for the popularity of 80s metal. Sure, there were some very limited metal influences (normally going back to metal-punk like The Stooges or The Misfits), but grunge was largely inspired by the college indie rock and a lot of those groups you listed. Maybe NOBODY listened to THE PIXIES, but everyone listened to NIRVANA, so after awhile, everyone who listened to NIRVANA started listening to THE PIXIES.
Anyway, not many people were listening to metal in the 90s except the true metalheads -- I was one of them. At the Gates, Cannibal Corpse, Machine Head, Pantera, Soundgarden (which was the 90s metal answer to Sabbath, and entirely not grunge...I don't care if they were from Seattle).
Posted by CitizenKanedforChewingGum
at April 24, 2009 5:11 PM
comment #23
corey3rd
says ...
Spanglish 2
I might show up since I hear the film ends when Eric Bana shotgun blasts Sandler, Rogen and Jonah Hill in a Straw Dogs tribute
Far as the Pixies go - I was in the orchestra pit on their final tour. My band opened up for Pussy Galore. Maybe Jonah Hill bought that t-shirt since they were out of Mr Mister and Glass Tiger t-shirts.
Posted by corey3rd
at April 24, 2009 5:17 PM
comment #24
MilkMan
says ...
Corey is now officially the coolest person on this site for having been in a band that opened for Pussy Galore. At least to me he is.
Posted by MilkMan
at April 24, 2009 6:06 PM
comment #25
Dan Revill
says ...
At the end of the day, what's really important is what kind of thread count that Pixies t-shirt is...I bought one at Coachella (how's that for hipster) five years ago. It's held up okay, but clearly they were going for affordability over quality.
Posted by Dan Revill
at April 24, 2009 9:39 PM
comment #26
bfm
says ...
I really hate it when trailers give away the entire movie.
Posted by bfm
at April 24, 2009 11:52 PM
comment #27
frankbooth
says ...
Where would you even hear the Pixies? You'd go over to someone's apartment to hang out and drink and get ready to go out and they'd be listening to the Pixies. Maybe on vinyl, maybe on cassette. That's how you heard music then. Or you discovered it yourself in the middle of the night on a community or college radio station.
Your friends sucked, Lex. You were hanging out with Wayne and Garth.
Anyway, wearing a Pixies shirt is only hip if you were wearing it when Doolittle was new, say '89 or '90. How old was Jonah Hill then? Exactly. Ergo, he cannot be hip and should quit trying and run off to play with his Transformers toys.
Hip is dead. I'm sorry if you missed it.
Posted by frankbooth
at April 25, 2009 1:08 AM
comment #28
adaml
says ...
Sorry, but that film looks dreadful. I still don't get the Seth Rogen appeal.
Posted by adaml
at April 25, 2009 1:41 AM
comment #29
actionman
says ...
i like the chubby, galumph version of Rogen, not the slimmed down version
Posted by actionman
at April 25, 2009 6:26 AM
comment #30
astrophore
says ...
I'm typing this through tears of joy.
That trailer moved me. It showed me that life is a blessing -- that each and every day we spend on this great spinning ball is a miracle.
I learned that sometimes you find what you are looking for when you decide to stop looking.
That facing death means I can begin to live.
And Jason Schwartzman did the music for this? Be still my fucking beating heart. Did Elmer Bernstein ever play with Phantom Planet? I think not.
But Wes Anderson wants his Futura font back. He's going to shrink his faux-vintage tweed suit an extra size until Judd relents.
Posted by astrophore
at April 25, 2009 6:26 AM
comment #31
corey3rd
says ...
I like the fact that Adam Sandler beats cancer and then he decides to break up a man's family. Nothing says comedy more than when my wife's ex-boyfriend shows up at the door attempting to get me divorced and steal my children. Adam Sandler's happiness is worth more than any family bond.
That's why I like this Straw Dogs ending with Eric Bana blasting Sandler right in the face while Styx's Mr. Roboto is playing in the background. The sneak preview audience here got wild when Sandler's brains covered the bed's headboard. It was like the flip side of him and the kid peeing on the doors in Big Daddy.
Maybe Jonah Hill should be wearing a "Winger" t-shirt so he can be as cool as Stuart.
Posted by corey3rd
at April 25, 2009 6:50 AM
comment #32
raygo
says ...
RIght now I'm wearing my Linda Ronstadt t-shirt, "Canciones de Mi Padre: A Romantic Evening in Old Mexico" ... how cool is that? My first concert was John Denver at the Spectrum in Philadelphia. I sat behind some nuns.
Posted by raygo
at April 25, 2009 10:01 AM