Biden should keep a burger stuffed in his mouth instead of keeping his foot in his mouth, especially when he freaks people out about not taking the subways ... Putz.
nice - good to see those idiots require probably 10 secret service and 20 cops for crowd control so they could look like average joes getting burgers at some dive when they have a world class chef at the white house. complete joke.
Right on, berkguru, these guys should never leave the White House again until 2012 when they run for reelection. They should emulate Howard Hughes. Better yet, maybe they should buy a casino and go live in it!
Affirmative, berkguru. Or better yet, possibly just stay in the underground bunker that is sure to exist underneath the White House for the foreseeable future? Fo' realz.
"so they could look like average joes getting burgers at some dive when they have a world class chef at the white house. complete joke."
This comment is a complete joke. No self respecting consumer of food would ask a world class chef to make them a hamburger. And the chef probably couldn't pull it off correctly if they did. The greasier the spoon, the better.
Obama ate at Ben's Chili Bowl (a D.C. institution) as president-elect, and now has goine to an indy burger place in Virginia. All he has to do now is go to the original Ledo Pizza in Adelphi, Md. (about a mile west of the University of Maryland campus), and he'll have completed the Washington culinary hat trick (borrowing a term better applied to Alexander Ovechkin).
Wait, medium well is for pussies? I thought that's what you ordered when you're in a dive and you don't want pink meat. In my experience, ordering anything less than "medium well" for a hamburger, you get something back that's uncooked.
Gordon is absolutely right - you always get it at least medium-well at a little grill-to-order like this, for that common sense reason. The earliest posters must be used to more "elitist" places and expensive cuts of meat.
VP19 - Ledo's Pizza has franchised all over the area - and its quality has long-since gone downhill as a consequnce, I'm sorry to say. Better they should visit one of the Tastee Diners, in Silver Spring or Bethesda, still at their original locations.
Posted by Baron Munchausen-by-Proxy at May 5, 2009 9:11 PM
I'll almost always go medium-well on a burger, and medium-rare on a steak.
Sometimes I'll downgrade it to medium on a burger (if I really trust the place), or medium on a steak if it's not one of their specialties (that's unlikely, though, as I rarely eat steak I make a point to go to a specific place when I'm "in the mood").
I think y'all are just trying extra hard to find a reason to bitch at Obama -- either that or you're just asking for food poisoning. What, you walk into a place blind and order your meat rare? Please.
The guy goes for a burger with his V.P. and the Dittoheads shit themselves looking for ulterior motives.
Man, this guy is a political genius - everything he does cause his opponents too look more ridiculous and irrelevant in their reactions while giving everyone else assurance.
Meanwhile, the GOP appoints unapologetic and current racist redneck Sessions to be the Judiciary lead. When he goes tearing into a filibuster-proof nominee that only makes the party look worse, I'm going to be in front of C-SPAN with a big bucket of popcorn and the world's biggest SEG...
I should also point out, if something has happened to a bunch of people [me, the next three people after you], and not you, I believe that technically means it's your experiences that are lacking.
Gordon, when it's an option, you can generally assume they know what they're doing. This isn't going to McDonalds or even Five Guys and asking for tartare.
That has actually been my running assumption thus far for the administration on stuff like this. I assume part of the strategy is, as DTG said, they know that no matter what he does, the attack wing of the right-wing will try to spin it as bad.
Now that I've watched it, my foot's really in my mouth. I just can't support a man who puts mustard on a burger instead of ketchup. Sorry, Obama. The love affair was nice, but it's over.
FDA recommendations state that all ground beef should be cooked throroughly to kill potential e. coli and other bacteria. If Obama and Biden had ordered their burgers rare (even if that's how they prefer it), there'd have been political shit to pay.
But y'all already know that and you're just being difficult. Same as last week when everyone screamed that the White House should have photoshopped pictures of Air Force One, when everyone knows that there's no way the feds should be doctoring any pictures for any reason.
Gordon, who would put ketchup on a burger? Sickening. At least Obama/Biden are trying to mix it up with the average joe. Can you imagine Bush/Cheney ordering a burger at a place like that? The right wing would be bragging about how they are 'real americans', becuause you know they would.
Unless I'm cooking it myself I always order my burger medium well. I've had too many bad experiences when I didn't. Kill the bacteria in the meat and on the hands of the person preparing it.
I live in the DC area for ten years and I love a good burger - the best burgers were Five Guys, sorry! Yeah, I know they franchised a bit and spread around, but the quality never dropped.
I now live just outside Chicago and a few months ago, my town was blessed to get the first Five Guys to come to the midwest - I can actually walk there, it's amazing! The quality has not dropped one bit, I'm happy to say AND Chicago is a picky town when it comes to beef - there is no shortage of mom-and-pop burger and hot dog joints on virtually every block. And the Five Guys there is just thriving always crowded, amazingly, the picky locals seem to really dig it. Between that a new Trader Joes that just opened a few months ago, we are set.
DC metro area (compared to NYC or Chicago) is pretty lackluster when it comes to small business eateries that really kick - there is an overabundance of Ruby Tuesdays and Chilis everywhere, it's sad. But....I used to go to the Tastee Diner on Lee Highway and it was quite good. One other standout for a town that tried so hard to cater to transplanted New Yorkers like me with so many "New York-style" delis, you could get the best sandwiches at Booeymongers - really good deli, I think they had one in Georgetown and one in Bethesda.
Sorry for the rambling, just feeling quite hungry, right now.....oh, and Obama's pretty cool in my book. Cut the guy some slack; I know some folks who lived in the Hyde Park of Chicago where he was settled and they say he was the real deal, genuingly accessible guy.
Was kind of cool to see him have the cash ready. I can't remember W ever even being able to pay for anything, let alone remember the price of milk. And if you've seen Roger & Me, you all remember the infamous story of Reagn visiting the pizza parlor in Flint and forgetting to pay the tab.....
VP19 - Ledo's Pizza has franchised all over the area - and its quality has long-since gone downhill as a consequnce, I'm sorry to say.
The original Ledo is not operated by the same people who have franchised the brand, so its quality has remained pretty high. That's why I specifically recommended the Adelphi location, a favorite for generations of U. of Maryland students.
BTW, I neglected to note one other phenomenal D.C.-area food venue -- Hard Times Cafe, best known for its fantastic chili (Cincinnati, Texas, Terlingua and vegetarian). Their Cincy chili compares favorably to Empress, Gold Star and Skyline...and for you chili purists, the non-veggie varieties can be ordered with or without beans.
Best burgers ever, in my humble opinion of course: All-American Drive-Thru in Massapequa on Long Island.
What's wrong with medium? Medium-well is for people who are afraid to eat sushi and sashimi and stick to maki, make that carlifornia rolls. Medium-well is a very low thread-count way to eat a burger.
In other news, cheddar cheese and mustard shortages are being reported across the country. Ketchup inventories are healthy.
"Medium-well is for people who are afraid to eat sushi and sashimi"
You know, I was going to argue with this, because, naturally, I love sushi, and I personally see a big difference between a food which is meant to be uncooked and a food which is meant to be cooked. But, I guess you do have a point, because I wouldn't order sushi from a shitty dive diner any more than I would order a burger less than medium well from the same place.
Such a cool video...such a cool President...he's setting the standard for other Presidents: Get out of the White House and mingle with the people for god's sake. Stop being holed up like some soldier in a foxhole.
Medium well is for steak eaters and folks who can afford to go to those fancy restaurants. He has high taste, good taste, but not for the greasy spoons.
If I'm going out in LA for a burger and I want it to count, there's only one place: Islands ("That's that Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers.").
But these days, when that urge hits, I'd just as soon fire up the mesquite, get my hands in some ground chuck and make my own.
you mean medium-rare, gordon? You go to a nice restaurant and try to order a steak medium-well, and they may refuse to serve it to you...
Gordon, obviously these are not hard and fast rules. Just happens that the people I know from northeast pennsylvania, new york state, and redder parts of the mid-atlantic all eat their meat medium-well to charred, and are afraid to touch sushi....i.e. the ones who order chicken teriyaki at a japanese restaurant. These people are also generally uneasy about eating indian, vietnamese, or any of the other great ethnic varieties. They tend to be those with eastern-european and german-irish heritage, from my experience.
Haha - I confess, I once made the mistake of ordering chicken teriyaki in a Japanese restaurant (it wasn't a sushi place). That did not go over well with the person I was with, though I was partially redeemed when her food came out crappy.
comment #1
Ryansi51
says ...
Medium Well? The cows already dead Barack, no need to kill it again.
Posted by Ryansi51
at May 5, 2009 6:42 PM
comment #2
Stringer Bell
says ...
Biden should keep a burger stuffed in his mouth instead of keeping his foot in his mouth, especially when he freaks people out about not taking the subways ... Putz.
Posted by Stringer Bell
at May 5, 2009 6:43 PM
comment #3
VoiceOfReason
says ...
Medium well?!?! I hope he has the good sense not to order his Bistecca alla Fiorentina that way.
Posted by VoiceOfReason
at May 5, 2009 6:45 PM
comment #4
Josh Massey
says ...
Wow, I immediately wondered if anybody was going to take them to task for "medium well." Guess so.
Posted by Josh Massey
at May 5, 2009 6:55 PM
comment #5
berkguru
says ...
nice - good to see those idiots require probably 10 secret service and 20 cops for crowd control so they could look like average joes getting burgers at some dive when they have a world class chef at the white house. complete joke.
Posted by berkguru
at May 5, 2009 6:57 PM
comment #6
George Prager
says ...
Right on, berkguru, these guys should never leave the White House again until 2012 when they run for reelection. They should emulate Howard Hughes. Better yet, maybe they should buy a casino and go live in it!
Posted by George Prager
at May 5, 2009 7:03 PM
comment #7
BurmaShave
says ...
Right near my old office. It'll never stop being cool having this guy as President.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 5, 2009 7:15 PM
comment #8
BurmaShave
says ...
And yeah medium well is for pussies.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 5, 2009 7:16 PM
comment #9
Ryansi51
says ...
they shouldve gotten Popeyes drive-thru.
but get there early, i hear the specials go quick!
Posted by Ryansi51
at May 5, 2009 7:18 PM
comment #10
Jonah
says ...
Stringer,
You a Republican? Did you support Bush/Cheney the last eight years? Those guys relied on freaking people out to stay in business.
Berkguru
Not even worthy of a response.
Posted by Jonah
at May 5, 2009 7:18 PM
comment #11
Calraigh Bracken
says ...
Affirmative, berkguru. Or better yet, possibly just stay in the underground bunker that is sure to exist underneath the White House for the foreseeable future? Fo' realz.
Posted by Calraigh Bracken
at May 5, 2009 7:19 PM
comment #12
Daniel Zelter
says ...
I'm surprised Biden can eat anything that spicy at his age. Oh, and Barry looks surprisingly short next to him.
Posted by Daniel Zelter
at May 5, 2009 7:32 PM
comment #13
bents75
says ...
"so they could look like average joes getting burgers at some dive when they have a world class chef at the white house. complete joke."
This comment is a complete joke. No self respecting consumer of food would ask a world class chef to make them a hamburger. And the chef probably couldn't pull it off correctly if they did. The greasier the spoon, the better.
Posted by bents75
at May 5, 2009 7:34 PM
comment #14
Sabina E
says ...
Obama is so awesome.... yeah baby! I'm going to DC next month and I really, REALLY hope I can catch a glimpse of him in real life!
Posted by Sabina E
at May 5, 2009 7:44 PM
comment #15
KC
says ...
Man, I hate liking a politician this much
Posted by KC
at May 5, 2009 7:53 PM
comment #16
vp19
says ...
Obama ate at Ben's Chili Bowl (a D.C. institution) as president-elect, and now has goine to an indy burger place in Virginia. All he has to do now is go to the original Ledo Pizza in Adelphi, Md. (about a mile west of the University of Maryland campus), and he'll have completed the Washington culinary hat trick (borrowing a term better applied to Alexander Ovechkin).
Posted by vp19
at May 5, 2009 7:58 PM
comment #17
berkguru
says ...
Ok fine i take it back - I just think Obama acts a little too cool for school sometimes - feels disingenuous to me.
You guys missed Wells in the corner nervously eyeing his camera and wallet b/c a black guy was standing next to him in a fast food joint.
Posted by berkguru
at May 5, 2009 8:02 PM
comment #18
Gordon27
says ...
Wait, medium well is for pussies? I thought that's what you ordered when you're in a dive and you don't want pink meat. In my experience, ordering anything less than "medium well" for a hamburger, you get something back that's uncooked.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 8:07 PM
comment #19
Gordon27
says ...
"I'm surprised Biden can eat anything that spicy at his age. Oh, and Barry looks surprisingly short next to him."
Shut the fuck up, DZ, you stupid piece of shit.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 8:14 PM
comment #20
Ryansi51
says ...
Gordon, again your "experiences" prove to be sorely lacking.
Posted by Ryansi51
at May 5, 2009 9:00 PM
comment #21
Baron Munchausen-by-Proxy
says ...
Gordon is absolutely right - you always get it at least medium-well at a little grill-to-order like this, for that common sense reason. The earliest posters must be used to more "elitist" places and expensive cuts of meat.
VP19 - Ledo's Pizza has franchised all over the area - and its quality has long-since gone downhill as a consequnce, I'm sorry to say. Better they should visit one of the Tastee Diners, in Silver Spring or Bethesda, still at their original locations.
Posted by Baron Munchausen-by-Proxy
at May 5, 2009 9:11 PM
comment #22
BurmaShave
says ...
Yeah Tastee Diner for sure. He could do a photo op with O'Malley help that sorry bastard.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 5, 2009 9:27 PM
comment #23
CitizenKanedforChewingGum
says ...
I'll almost always go medium-well on a burger, and medium-rare on a steak.
Sometimes I'll downgrade it to medium on a burger (if I really trust the place), or medium on a steak if it's not one of their specialties (that's unlikely, though, as I rarely eat steak I make a point to go to a specific place when I'm "in the mood").
I think y'all are just trying extra hard to find a reason to bitch at Obama -- either that or you're just asking for food poisoning. What, you walk into a place blind and order your meat rare? Please.
Posted by CitizenKanedforChewingGum
at May 5, 2009 9:29 PM
comment #24
Deathtongue_Groupie
says ...
The guy goes for a burger with his V.P. and the Dittoheads shit themselves looking for ulterior motives.
Man, this guy is a political genius - everything he does cause his opponents too look more ridiculous and irrelevant in their reactions while giving everyone else assurance.
Meanwhile, the GOP appoints unapologetic and current racist redneck Sessions to be the Judiciary lead. When he goes tearing into a filibuster-proof nominee that only makes the party look worse, I'm going to be in front of C-SPAN with a big bucket of popcorn and the world's biggest SEG...
Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie
at May 5, 2009 9:55 PM
comment #25
Gordon27
says ...
"Gordon, again your "experiences" prove to be sorely lacking."
I guess you've got one up on me, because I can't remember a single thing you've ever said and have no idea who you are.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 9:59 PM
comment #26
Gordon27
says ...
I should also point out, if something has happened to a bunch of people [me, the next three people after you], and not you, I believe that technically means it's your experiences that are lacking.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 10:01 PM
comment #27
BurmaShave
says ...
Gordon, when it's an option, you can generally assume they know what they're doing. This isn't going to McDonalds or even Five Guys and asking for tartare.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 5, 2009 10:18 PM
comment #28
Gordon27
says ...
That has actually been my running assumption thus far for the administration on stuff like this. I assume part of the strategy is, as DTG said, they know that no matter what he does, the attack wing of the right-wing will try to spin it as bad.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 10:33 PM
comment #29
Gordon27
says ...
Just imagine what they'd do if he sent it back because it was undercooked!
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 10:34 PM
comment #30
Gordon27
says ...
Now that I've watched it, my foot's really in my mouth. I just can't support a man who puts mustard on a burger instead of ketchup. Sorry, Obama. The love affair was nice, but it's over.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 5, 2009 10:40 PM
comment #31
Wrecktem
says ...
FDA recommendations state that all ground beef should be cooked throroughly to kill potential e. coli and other bacteria. If Obama and Biden had ordered their burgers rare (even if that's how they prefer it), there'd have been political shit to pay.
But y'all already know that and you're just being difficult. Same as last week when everyone screamed that the White House should have photoshopped pictures of Air Force One, when everyone knows that there's no way the feds should be doctoring any pictures for any reason.
Posted by Wrecktem
at May 6, 2009 12:12 AM
comment #32
Movie Watcher
says ...
Gordon, who would put ketchup on a burger? Sickening. At least Obama/Biden are trying to mix it up with the average joe. Can you imagine Bush/Cheney ordering a burger at a place like that? The right wing would be bragging about how they are 'real americans', becuause you know they would.
Posted by Movie Watcher
at May 6, 2009 5:50 AM
comment #33
Howlingman
says ...
Unless I'm cooking it myself I always order my burger medium well. I've had too many bad experiences when I didn't. Kill the bacteria in the meat and on the hands of the person preparing it.
Posted by Howlingman
at May 6, 2009 6:01 AM
comment #34
Geoff
says ...
I live in the DC area for ten years and I love a good burger - the best burgers were Five Guys, sorry! Yeah, I know they franchised a bit and spread around, but the quality never dropped.
I now live just outside Chicago and a few months ago, my town was blessed to get the first Five Guys to come to the midwest - I can actually walk there, it's amazing! The quality has not dropped one bit, I'm happy to say AND Chicago is a picky town when it comes to beef - there is no shortage of mom-and-pop burger and hot dog joints on virtually every block. And the Five Guys there is just thriving always crowded, amazingly, the picky locals seem to really dig it. Between that a new Trader Joes that just opened a few months ago, we are set.
DC metro area (compared to NYC or Chicago) is pretty lackluster when it comes to small business eateries that really kick - there is an overabundance of Ruby Tuesdays and Chilis everywhere, it's sad. But....I used to go to the Tastee Diner on Lee Highway and it was quite good. One other standout for a town that tried so hard to cater to transplanted New Yorkers like me with so many "New York-style" delis, you could get the best sandwiches at Booeymongers - really good deli, I think they had one in Georgetown and one in Bethesda.
Sorry for the rambling, just feeling quite hungry, right now.....oh, and Obama's pretty cool in my book. Cut the guy some slack; I know some folks who lived in the Hyde Park of Chicago where he was settled and they say he was the real deal, genuingly accessible guy.
Was kind of cool to see him have the cash ready. I can't remember W ever even being able to pay for anything, let alone remember the price of milk. And if you've seen Roger & Me, you all remember the infamous story of Reagn visiting the pizza parlor in Flint and forgetting to pay the tab.....
Posted by Geoff
at May 6, 2009 6:37 AM
comment #35
vp19
says ...
VP19 - Ledo's Pizza has franchised all over the area - and its quality has long-since gone downhill as a consequnce, I'm sorry to say.
The original Ledo is not operated by the same people who have franchised the brand, so its quality has remained pretty high. That's why I specifically recommended the Adelphi location, a favorite for generations of U. of Maryland students.
BTW, I neglected to note one other phenomenal D.C.-area food venue -- Hard Times Cafe, best known for its fantastic chili (Cincinnati, Texas, Terlingua and vegetarian). Their Cincy chili compares favorably to Empress, Gold Star and Skyline...and for you chili purists, the non-veggie varieties can be ordered with or without beans.
Posted by vp19
at May 6, 2009 7:16 AM
comment #36
BurmaShave
says ...
Oh god Hard Times I want that right now. I'm glad this has turned into a thread on DC eateries.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 6, 2009 7:41 AM
comment #37
actionman
says ...
ketchup, mustard, a little mayo, lettuce, cheese, pickles, bacon, and meat on my medium-rare burgers.
Posted by actionman
at May 6, 2009 8:16 AM
comment #38
Floyd Thursby
says ...
Want to see Barry and Joe at B. Smith's to find out if the servers are as rude as when I go there.
Posted by Floyd Thursby
at May 6, 2009 8:40 AM
comment #39
mccool
says ...
Best burgers ever, in my humble opinion of course: All-American Drive-Thru in Massapequa on Long Island.
What's wrong with medium? Medium-well is for people who are afraid to eat sushi and sashimi and stick to maki, make that carlifornia rolls. Medium-well is a very low thread-count way to eat a burger.
In other news, cheddar cheese and mustard shortages are being reported across the country. Ketchup inventories are healthy.
Posted by mccool
at May 6, 2009 9:09 AM
comment #40
dinther
says ...
Geoff - I'm sorry, that's just not right. I love Five Guys, but the HellBurger joint has got those 5G burgers beat.
Unfortunately, this publicity will make it impossible ever again to get a seat there. It was bad enough before.
Posted by dinther
at May 6, 2009 9:15 AM
comment #41
actionman
says ...
5 Guys has a great fast-food style burger (on par with In and Out), but in CT, nothing beats The Counter Burger or Corey's Catsup and Mustard.
Posted by actionman
at May 6, 2009 10:04 AM
comment #42
BurmaShave
says ...
fast food style? On par with In and Out? Madness, surely you jest. Try them again.
Posted by BurmaShave
at May 6, 2009 12:05 PM
comment #43
Gordon27
says ...
"Medium-well is for people who are afraid to eat sushi and sashimi"
You know, I was going to argue with this, because, naturally, I love sushi, and I personally see a big difference between a food which is meant to be uncooked and a food which is meant to be cooked. But, I guess you do have a point, because I wouldn't order sushi from a shitty dive diner any more than I would order a burger less than medium well from the same place.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 6, 2009 12:39 PM
comment #44
Chicago48
says ...
Such a cool video...such a cool President...he's setting the standard for other Presidents: Get out of the White House and mingle with the people for god's sake. Stop being holed up like some soldier in a foxhole.
Medium well is for steak eaters and folks who can afford to go to those fancy restaurants. He has high taste, good taste, but not for the greasy spoons.
Posted by Chicago48
at May 6, 2009 1:06 PM
comment #45
Chicago48
says ...
Sometimes I wonder about Biden. Watch how he watches Obama, like -- Is this guy for real? Presidents aren't supposed to be doing this....
Posted by Chicago48
at May 6, 2009 1:11 PM
comment #46
Deathtongue_Groupie
says ...
If I'm going out in LA for a burger and I want it to count, there's only one place: Islands ("That's that Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers.").
But these days, when that urge hits, I'd just as soon fire up the mesquite, get my hands in some ground chuck and make my own.
Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie
at May 6, 2009 1:20 PM
comment #47
mccool
says ...
you mean medium-rare, gordon? You go to a nice restaurant and try to order a steak medium-well, and they may refuse to serve it to you...
Gordon, obviously these are not hard and fast rules. Just happens that the people I know from northeast pennsylvania, new york state, and redder parts of the mid-atlantic all eat their meat medium-well to charred, and are afraid to touch sushi....i.e. the ones who order chicken teriyaki at a japanese restaurant. These people are also generally uneasy about eating indian, vietnamese, or any of the other great ethnic varieties. They tend to be those with eastern-european and german-irish heritage, from my experience.
Posted by mccool
at May 6, 2009 1:23 PM
comment #48
Gordon27
says ...
Haha - I confess, I once made the mistake of ordering chicken teriyaki in a Japanese restaurant (it wasn't a sushi place). That did not go over well with the person I was with, though I was partially redeemed when her food came out crappy.
Posted by Gordon27
at May 6, 2009 2:01 PM